EPTJang Ja Yeon Story [Hidden Side of S Korea] - Page 5
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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hmsrenown
Canada1263 Posts
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Tiegrr
United States607 Posts
 It's ridiculous how corrupt human beings can be.. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On March 09 2011 15:01 DystopiaX wrote: If you think this shit doesn't happen in America you are a fool. There are plenty of small "talent agencies" in the US that do this sort of thing. I don't know how pervasive it is in Korea (if the top stars have to pull this shit too) but it happens at the "low levels" so to speak of both countries. Oh why certainly it happens in America. Thanks for inciting I'm a fool though. I'm commenting on the fact of the supposed ridiculousness of her contract and many other Korean Entertainment Star's contracts' rendering it difficult for them to get out of it. You said it yourself that she probably couldn't escape the contract without incurring drastic losses... If something like this came up in American courts you better believe she could terminate her contract, sue in court, and end up winning. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On March 09 2011 15:25 DystopiaX wrote: Though I have yet to see official confirmation or proof that people didn't just find names of dudes she's worked with and then published that. Of course if it's true they should be punished, but from what i read right now it's just internet rumors that typical Korean netizens are getting really pissed at. as far as i know, from reading the newspaper, she had kept a diary of sorts, tracking where, when and who she was forced to sleep with. this diary was kept with a friend and only today (2 years to the day she committed suicide) is being released and given to the cops. | ||
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On March 09 2011 15:40 nemY wrote: Oh why certainly it happens in America. Thanks for inciting I'm a fool though. I'm commenting on the fact of the supposed ridiculousness of her contract and many other Korean Entertainment Star's contracts' rendering it difficult for them to get out of it. You said it yourself that she probably couldn't escape the contract without incurring drastic losses... If something like this came up in American courts you better believe she could terminate her contract, sue in court, and end up winning. No offense intended, really tired right now and my words get kinda harsh. But yeah, I was also surprised that Korean companies can get away with that shit. Big problem IMO is the trainee system; the companies spend so much money investing in potential that may not even ever debut so they exploit their artists in order to make it back up. Artists can't do anything because all companies do this so there's no good alternative. | ||
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
- How was she forced into this? Specifically how. All I'm getting is that she was forced. - Why wasn't it reported by her? - What possible charges could these people face? It's not like its non-consensual if she was acting as an escort right? I mean who is the hand here? I dunno this feels weird. Was there any actual blackmail? Couldn't she just walk away? I'm not blaming her or anything, but It seems like some facts are missing. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
On March 09 2011 16:16 keV. wrote: I don't really understand what's going on here. It feels like information is missing. Some questions: - How was she forced into this? Specifically how. All I'm getting is that she was forced. - Why wasn't it reported by her? - What possible charges could these people face? It's not like its non-consensual if she was acting as an escort right? I mean who is the hand here? I dunno this feels weird. Was there any actual blackmail? Couldn't she just walk away? I'm not blaming her or anything, but It seems like some facts are missing. Threats, beatings, and obviously having her in a contract with his company, the CEO was in on it too. It's not too hard and Korea (supposedly) blames the victims too in cases like this. Hence she reports it, they post pictures of her nude or w.e. Her career is over, bosses get away free, etc. It's a completely one sided industry / settup. I forget the actually description, but basically it's a "shame" culture instead of a "guilt" culture and very much more predisposed to side with powerful/leading/older figures. For an instance in the difference in culture just look at how GSL winners gave their parents most of their money in some cases. note though, don't take things I say as 100% truth, as I'm not any type of expert just slightly knowledgeable. | ||
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where
144 Posts
Actually this is similar to the treatment of Wall Street CEOs after they wrecked the financial industry- light tap on the wrist. | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
All those culprits should be publicly named and jailed for life | ||
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GoodRamen
United States713 Posts
On March 09 2011 16:40 DisaFear wrote: Wow, that sucks bad All those culprits should be publicly named and jailed for life to bad that the justice system for korea is different from america | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
I wonder if the 소녀시대 (Girl's Generation) girls were ever forced to do this kind of stuff. I really hope not. | ||
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nanashin
United States1584 Posts
On March 09 2011 14:59 nemY wrote: It's odd how this part of Korean Society contrasts with American society where there seems to be a lot more freedom for actors in their contracts. Sounds like Korea needs to revolutionize their entertainment industry with unions! Unions won't be able to change anything in Korea's entertainment industry. + Show Spoiler + Things are too hard line capitalist and their government has barely any idea of how to make any headway. Just look at the music portion, their FTC, a few days ago, had issued a fine amongst the digital distributing companies due to their price fixing. This sounds like the government is working, but it isn't. They went in hoping to protect the consumers from unfair practices and they took a sum of money all of the companies involved. What's the problem? The consumers were not coming under threat from the price fixing, far from it, they are relishing it. Price fixing usually a means of gouging the consumers, but this was their tool of keeping the Korean market isolated from iTunes, Amazon, and other such digital music stores. They were undercutting, insanely so, by about 30-40% and even going so far do a package deal, consumer pays a fixed sum per month and gets a bulk of songs for like .12 USD a piece. The tool the government used to fight this battle was a fine, not legislation, a demand for sums of money. The fines were for most of the business in the million USD range. A sum that these companies easily recoup from their combined sales. The people getting the shaft were the artists. The money break down is pretty much this: the distributors themselves take 40-45%, the record label takes 30%, the government created union-like body, which serves to insure that artists have a venue to get proper publishing and copyright management, takes their due of 10%, artist gets the remainder. Now apply those percentages to the .12 usd. The government doesn't care, the society is happy, and the industry is rich. How are union lobbyists going to fight this? | ||
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On March 09 2011 16:16 keV. wrote: I don't really understand what's going on here. It feels like information is missing. Some questions: - How was she forced into this? Specifically how. All I'm getting is that she was forced. - Why wasn't it reported by her? - What possible charges could these people face? It's not like its non-consensual if she was acting as an escort right? I mean who is the hand here? I dunno this feels weird. Was there any actual blackmail? Couldn't she just walk away? I'm not blaming her or anything, but It seems like some facts are missing. Korea is much more corrupt than most other developed countries. People with money have imba power in the country, to the extent where they can manipulate the law. A similar case regarding corruption happened several months ago, where a korean musician was exploited and abused by his agency. His ceo bribed the police to keep quiet. Afaik, neither his agency nor the policemen involved were arrested. The justice system in that country is a joke. | ||
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razorsuKe
Canada2037 Posts
Imagine all the shit that ppl are going through, people that are in her position who, even if they committed suicide, wouldn't get their story heard. | ||
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
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