EPT20 Years for a Youtube Prank? - Page 25
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
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Darkn3ss
United States717 Posts
On February 21 2011 15:32 Flyingdutchman wrote: ANY form of punishment by the judicial system is way too much for this. Is the state really willing to actually ruin someone's life over this? You try and get a good job being a convicted felon. I wouldn't be surprised if he was put on some sex offenders list too if he is convicted. Well could he have potentially ruined the lives of those kids? Careers of parents of those kids? If, for example, someone's boss saw the video and recognized someone's child... what would they think??? But, as I said before, they guy will NOT get a serious punishment for it BUT this will make him realize that some pranks are not as successful as others... =) It also sets a good example for other people out there... | ||
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HellRoxYa
Sweden1614 Posts
On February 21 2011 10:12 Darkn3ss wrote: ...if you think that's personally fine - you should make another video just like that with children somewhere in Sweden. Then we can compare parents' reactions and see if this is one of those "Only in America" type of things =) I could. I imagine noone would have a problem with it. However, if someone DID have a problem with it the law wouldn't be concerned with it. Rather, a debate would come out of it. Do I really have the right? And it turns out I do. In fact, the bad guys would end up being the teachers/principle of the children's school for allowing me to film if anyone at all. But that's just "socialist Sweden". | ||
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
On February 21 2011 15:47 Darkn3ss wrote: Well could he have potentially ruined the lives of those kids? Careers of parents of those kids? If, for example, someone's boss saw the video and recognized someone's child... what would they think??? But, as I said before, they guy will NOT get a serious punishment for it BUT this will make him realize that some pranks are not as successful as others... =) It also sets a good example for other people out there... so swearing in front of children actually harms them? (not that he even did that) you really believe that? Is this more harmful than demanding school to not teach a kid something about evolution? This is just another example of self serving bias of parents too lazy to raise their child (or not able because they both have to work to provide enough income). But to answer your question, if someone's boss saw the vid, what would they think? I really wouldn't know, I cannot think for others. I only know what I would think, which is 'lol'. I'm not saying that parents don't have the right to demand the vid being taken down, as far as I know it has been. I cannot find it anywhere. But anything more than that is disproportionate to the action itself. | ||
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DND_Enkil
Sweden598 Posts
On February 21 2011 15:49 HellRoxYa wrote: I could. I imagine noone would have a problem with it. However, if someone DID have a problem with it the law wouldn't be concerned with it. Rather, a debate would come out of it. Do I really have the right? And it turns out I do. In fact, the bad guys would end up being the teachers/principle of the children's school for allowing me to film if anyone at all. But that's just "socialist Sweden". You would actually be pretty wrong with noone having a problem with it. And wrong with the law not being concerned with it, to start with you would need to have parental consent from every single parent whoose child you wish to film if you plan to publish the film (youtube counts, as does any form of art work). School consent is NOT enough. Second if you edited the movie in a way differing from what you informed the parents on they have grounds to sue you. The school might take som critisism aswell but you are still responsible for anything you publish. My GF is working as a journalist, and the pains she has to go through whenever children are involved are massive. Now in sweden it would probably end up with fines and not jail time, but hard to say before it actually happens and a case goes to court, just wanted to point out that you are wrong with having the right and it not breaking the law. Sweden has strong laws protecting children from appearing in any form of media without the parents consent. | ||
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NSANE.hydra
United States644 Posts
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
So it was better to murder someone than do that? | ||
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DaRKMaTT3r
Brazil553 Posts
I could be wrong but in my view he was just unlucky to be the chosen one on this matter. =( | ||
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Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
On February 19 2011 07:18 luckybeni2 wrote: Funny story. There actually was a guy who broke into a house in the USA. The family was out on vacation and the idiot managed to trap himself in the garage. He spent 8 days there eating dogfood and Pepsi. When the family came back he sued them ... and, of course he won ... 500 thousand dollars... because of the "inhuman conditions he had to live in... False. http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp I think everyone should keep in mind that the charges are being brought by angry parents who are insisting he be charged with everything they can think of. None of them will stick. I will be absolutely shocked if he gets any jail time at all. There were no victims, and he probably broke no laws. If anything, he'll get a slap on the wrist and a small fine. Look, I agree that America is crazy in a lot of ways, but we're not crazy enough to let completely unfounded charges put away people for decades on a regular basis. | ||
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LolnoobInsanity
United States183 Posts
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Nihilnovi
Sweden696 Posts
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
Wow finally I found some evidence about that shit. I am sick and tired of people using that court case as an evidence. I find it really hard to believe the court system is that SCREWED up. But yea the guy is not going to get 20 years in prison. That is the maximum sentence which the law will allow for such crime. The parents, however, are a bit ridiculous for trying to get the kid jailed for that long. I have always wondered how someone can grow up and turn out into an "overprotective!!!!!!!!" parent that freaks about a teaspoon of sugar, comparing sugar to crack and reacting a showing of a cut or a drop of blood on t.v. as gore and violence... | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10610 Posts
On February 19 2011 05:30 travis wrote: THE FUCK? my thoughts exactly. innocent. no innocent person was there at the time... | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
On February 22 2011 02:41 Chocobo wrote: Look, I agree that America is crazy in a lot of ways, but we're not crazy enough to let completely unfounded charges put away people for decades on a regular basis. I'll just leave this here... http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-cases-1994-2003#106 It might be a small percentage of total convictions, but too many imo. I'm not saying this doesn't happen anywhere else though, please don't misunderstand me. We don't have the detah penalty in NL but there have been some high profile cases where innocent people were convicted and sent to jail for a long time | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:06 heroyi wrote: Wow finally I found some evidence about that shit. I am sick and tired of people using that court case as an evidence. I find it really hard to believe the court system is that SCREWED up. But yea the guy is not going to get 20 years in prison. That is the maximum sentence which the law will allow for such crime. The parents, however, are a bit ridiculous for trying to get the kid jailed for that long. I have always wondered how someone can grow up and turn out into an "overprotective!!!!!!!!" parent that freaks about a teaspoon of sugar, comparing sugar to crack and reacting a showing of a cut or a drop of blood on t.v. as gore and violence... Obviously we should get rid of maximums so a judge can send people to a life time in prison for everything muhahahaha. I dislike how the internet short attention span to crap makes everything esp legal just seem over blown, i mean the common one is the hot coffee from McDonalds case, most people don't get that a lot of people suffered 3rd degree burns that's though the muscle and to the bone that shit doesn't grow back you need skin graphs. On February 23 2011 07:34 Flyingdutchman wrote: I'll just leave this here... http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-cases-1994-2003#106 It might be a small percentage of total convictions, but too many imo. I'm not saying this doesn't happen anywhere else though, please don't misunderstand me. We don't have the detah penalty in NL but there have been some high profile cases where innocent people were convicted and sent to jail for a long time This is where the judicial system is in trouble, over contumelious prosecutors on criminal cases who blur the moralities lines to get convictions becuase if they don't they could lose their jobs. | ||
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red_b
United States1267 Posts
This country is literally a shit sandwich. A delicious slice of New England baguette on top, a crazy piece of west coast rye on the bottom, and a bunch of poop in the middle. | ||
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2l84that
Turkey35 Posts
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drifteR
United States8 Posts
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