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On February 19 2011 08:18 Gummy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2011 08:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On February 19 2011 08:06 Touch wrote:
Thing is, he didn't hurt anyone, not even indirectly. On February 19 2011 08:12 gurrpp wrote:
wow this is kind of fucked up. I don't see why this should be a criminal offense since he didn't harm anyone and it was done in good fun. Sounds like a good defense against arson. Would you use it? He's not being charged for physically harming people. In Arson, you ARE hurting people by destroying their property. He's not even hurting peoples' property.
And the invasion of privacy and destruction of reputations isn't harming people? That's what this idiot did. To quote myself earlier:
It's not good enough (from a legal standpoint), to attempt to tell everyone who watched the video:
1. It's a fake; the kid is just an immature idiot teehee;
2. The teacher who was responsible for that class isn't unprofessional and shouldn't be fired for letting a kid sing sexual songs to little kids (which would be standard protocol);
3. The school shouldn't be sued for hiring such a dimwit as a guest speaker (which would be standard protocol);
4. Parents, don't ever worry about anything like this ever again!
Reputations will be permanently ruined, there will be consequences because of the viral video, and inevitable defamation will ensue directly because of the lie that is that spliced video.
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Does anybody have a working link to the video? We can't really comment much on something without seeing what he actually did.
Also, 20 years seems like a cruel and/or unusual punishment for this offense. The children were not present, and there was no actual pornography if I wasn't mistaken. I'm not qualified in how the Bill of Rights applies to school, but shouldn't this guy be protected under the first amendment? I can't see him getting 20 years. Maybe something for putting the kids in the video without consent...but 20 years seems ridiculous.
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I haven't seen the video in question, but it seems clear from the description that it's an example of that nihilistic moral absurdism which is so common on the internet these days, and other places. It's funny because it's wrong. People are more afraid to take things too seriously these days than they are to let their integrity slip. Why is it even funny to watch little kids dance merrily to sexually explicit lyrics? Because kids are dumb and they'll dance to anything? That's part of it. But obviously the other part that their innocence is being exploited is also prevalent. It's awkward and absurd, and people thus embrace it specifically because it's immoral, even if only mildly so.
I'm not saying this should be illegal. But a parent has the right to decide what images of their children are portrayed in wide publicity. And i can certainly understand why the parents of these children would be upset.
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What.. the fuck... oh my god i hope he doesnt get any jail time or any punishment at all, utterly ridiculous to think that he should :s
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On February 19 2011 08:22 Omigawa wrote:
This reminds me of the Duke Lacrosse scandal. I haven't done any research but I would bet this district attorney is up for re-election soon and is trying to make a name for himself by ruining someone else's life. If that's the case hopefully he will be disbarred as well. It's absolutely pathetic how fucked the justice system is in America.
You are talking about a system where it is illegal for tornados to enter certain cities. In washington you are forbidden to have sex with a virgin... EVER.
In one state the law states that it is only alowd to shoot indians out of a wagon.
If you are looking at the worlds most stupid laws, you will see that the USA has more than all other countries combined. (there is a state that forbids whaling but it has no shore. That is except you hunt whales from out of your car, of course. True story)
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Give him 1000 hours of community service. The End
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If it were my child in that video I would definitely be offended. But to be honest, when I first heard of the concept of the vid I actually did find it amusing. You know how that saying goes, if it happens to someone else it's funny.
This got me thinking... if the alternate shots had the singer singing lyrics about violence... would there be an equal amount of outrage? It seems that society gets offended by sex first before violence.
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He broke the law, a fine is in order, say 1K usd or so?
Prison time would be terrible
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Could this make less sense? Why does common sense not play any role in the courtroom?
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Hilarious, better but him behind bars for a long time, sexual offenders just keep on going if let out.
Sadly where I live he could've probably molested all the kids in the class and get nothing for it.
I really hate the differences in justice systems around the world.
This is bit too much though.
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Nonsense like this makes me speechless. If I were a parent of one of the "abused" children I'd file a complaint that my tax money is being wasted on such a ridiculous case.
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My head hurts I cannot understand how stupid this is.
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I guess it was wrong because he used the kids' faces without their permission. Maybe give him a stern warning or something? I guess a few nights in jail, a written apology, and community service time perhaps.
20 years is a joke I hope.
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This is retarded, there is no crime. He made a funny joke who fucking cares. On Tosh.0 they had a 7 year old kid cursing out Daniel Tosh....Parents need to take the big stick out of their ass and lighten up.
Someone slip them some weed brownies or something so they chill the fuck out.
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On February 19 2011 05:50 Hans-Titan wrote:LOL, maximum penalty they can give you is 16 years in Denmark, regardless of crime. And that is only in the most extreme crcumstances. (can be given more than once though; longest time served in history of Denmark is 33years for killing 4 police officers) Prison time, let alone 20 years, is an absolute joke considering this a prank video. Community service with a fine is more adequate. No doubt that he went to far executing the prank, but 20 years? Get a fucking grip. Instead of posting 'AMERICA - FUCK YEA' I'll direct you to this excellent article by the Economist. Do read it. greatly summarizes my position. http://www.economist.com/node/16636027
Don't post false information. 16 years is the maximum penalty for a "regular" murder in Denmark, but in extreme cases (serial killers, child murderers etc) they get locked up indefinitely - strictly speaking the term is "detained until reformed/healthy enough to rejoin society", but fact remains they never get out. Ever.
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On February 19 2011 05:45 Apocalyptic wrote:
I agree that 20 years is a ridiculous punishment, but this guy deserves to go to jail for this. I would say 3-12 months max. Doing something like this to innocent kids is sick, but come on guys, lets be reasonable.
Anyone with a slight sense of intelligence will realize that this shouldn't be considered in any way a criminal act, I don't understand how someone could be so incredibly stupid not to see that. The level of hypocrisy is just beyond belief...
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Huh?
This makes my brain hurt. If no one was hurt why bother? Agh...
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The people who are prosecuting this kid are the sick and twisted ones... Completely ridiculous and moronic. They are probably trying to make an example out of this poor kid and if he does go to jail his live will never be the same, all because he spliced a sexual explicit song in with some pictures of kids...
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He is not to blame at all. It was a good prank. Fuck the world, this pisses me off.
On February 19 2011 09:26 Yergidy wrote:
The people who are prosecuting this kid are the sick and twisted ones... Completely ridiculous and moronic. They are probably trying to make an example out of this poor kid and if he does go to jail his live will never be the same, all because he spliced a sexual explicit song in with some pictures of kids...
True that, following the law doesn't make you any less of a scum. Obviously we can't charge people for making stupid accusations but I sure feel that the prosecutors and police are worthy of the same treatment as the cruelest criminals.
EDIT: Well, no I don't mean all that, the police has to act if charges are made and they have to do it by the book... the book is just so dumb =(
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