EPTThis is the same stuff that happens in every other comedy show (Chappelle's Show, Whitest Kids, etc). wtf
20 Years for a Youtube Prank? - Page 8
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
This is the same stuff that happens in every other comedy show (Chappelle's Show, Whitest Kids, etc). wtf | ||
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
On February 19 2011 06:40 Triscuit wrote: Can you actually take a second to explain to me why it is such a big no-no? Honestly. It was fake. He didn't actually abuse anyone. The children weren't there. Who cares that he lets on that he sung in front of a group of kids, as long as he didn't actually do it? What if I showed you a video of me killing a man, only to show you that I had actually cleverly edited it such that it was all fake. Would you still have me thrown in prison for life because of some murder I never actually committed? He used video of children without their consent in a sexually explicit video they did not know they would be a part of. How hard is that to understand. And to those who don't have a clue about the US penal system ... 20 years is the maximum ... rarely are you given the max sentence for something like this. This is an overreaction by TLers moreso than whoever is prosecuting. | ||
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GiantEnemyCrab
Canada503 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On February 19 2011 07:24 lac29 wrote: He used video of children without their consent in a sexually explicit video they did not know they would be a part of. How hard is that to understand. And to those who don't have a clue about the US penal system ... 20 years is the maximum ... rarely are you given the max sentence for something like this. This is an overreaction by TLers moreso than whoever is prosecuting. The only thing he should receive is a community service/fine because he didn't actually abuse or change their lives. If you keep arguing the route of the prosecutors you will have to come down on the people i linked in my video who sexually abused that girl on stage in front of a bunch of closet lesbian pedos. | ||
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zJayy962
1363 Posts
On February 19 2011 07:24 lac29 wrote: He used video of children without their consent in a sexually explicit video they did not know they would be a part of. How hard is that to understand. And to those who don't have a clue about the US penal system ... 20 years is the maximum ... rarely are you given the max sentence for something like this. This is an overreaction by TLers moreso than whoever is prosecuting. Honestly it doesnt matter that the max sentence is 20 years. This kid doesn't deserve a single day in prison for what he did, The prosecutor is comparing this video that he did that was clearly fake to child pornography: Where kids are forced to have sex with other kids or an adult is having sexual intercourse with children. Is this image not coming through? How can you compare the two? | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On February 19 2011 07:18 JeeJee wrote: i highly doubt that is true, as otherwise paparazzi's wouldn't exist. filming in public has to be available to anyone without consent, i'm 99% sure this is the case, but i will go and do more research on it now. Film and photography have different laws. If you are filming for commercial use then yes, you need written permission. However, if it isn't for commercial purposes and you cannot identify the subjects, you have no case. If I were the judge I would give him a $500 dollar fine and give him community service. That would be the end of it. I would tell the young chap I'm disappointed in him and the prosecutor to stop wasting my time. | ||
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
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atenthirtyone
United States88 Posts
He just be tried with the possibility of a sizable fine and community service at most. Jail time for deceiving people and misconduct seems kinda ridiculous. That said, I am not an expert in law. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On February 19 2011 07:38 StarStruck wrote: Film and photography have different laws. If you are filming for commercial use then yes, you need written permission. However, if it isn't for commercial purposes and you cannot identify the subjects, you have no case. yeah i have been reading about it for the past little while. canada-specific stuff, since i'm canadian, but i can't imagine it would be too different in the states. basically he did nothing illegal by filming those kids without their consent as far as i can see (just the filming part, i have no comments on the faking-sexual-stuff part) On February 19 2011 07:40 lac29 wrote: Wow ... do people not understand of using video footage without consent? Sure the prosecutor is angling this as a sexual crime (which is kinda iffy). But this guy should be punished for using video footage without proper consent. And I'll bet money he won't get any jail time (if any ... certainly only a few months). nah, i can come film you anytime if you're in a public place. at least here in canada that's what i'm reading in the law. | ||
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
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Bartuc
Netherlands629 Posts
On February 19 2011 07:44 lac29 wrote: I'm not sure if an elementary school is considered a public place ... especially since this guy actually had to get permission to come and perform. You can't just go to an elementary school and start filming kids. True, but 20 years for something such as that? I mean, a small fine or community service is understandable, but this takes it miles too far imho.. | ||
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King[Neikos]
Costa Rica506 Posts
On February 19 2011 05:30 travis wrote: THE FUCK? i wouldnt be able to say it better | ||
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Tef
Sweden443 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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SlapMySalami
United States1060 Posts
Offenders who have been sentenced to prison for murder or manslaughter will serve an average of 19.1 years in prison under the minimum 85% of sentence served policy compared to 13.1 years under the old parole system and 12.2 years when early prison release existed (chart 8). ![[image loading]](http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/timeserv/annual/chart8.GIF) source:http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/timeserv/annual/section2.html#murder This is in Florida I just took the first google result I picked. The graphs are also outdated to 2004 but the point is that they want him to serve a longer sentence than if he just killed someone + Show Spoiler + in Florida+ Show Spoiler + In 2004 | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
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DayJP
Brazil477 Posts
the lulz I wouldn't have if not for your very existence what saddens me the most is the fact that only a very small percentage of the country is actually that stupid and "afraid", in a sense of overreaction. those law enforcements have no clue what child abuse is, and IMHO are just looking for their 15 minutes of fame with this. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
He hasn't done anything that harms society in any way. That's not child porn at all. The fact that people think it might be is frightening. | ||
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kilolo
Sweden150 Posts
On February 19 2011 07:56 Djzapz wrote: Free the man and give him a million dollars for wasting his time and ruining his public image and most likely part of his life for absurd childish BS. He hasn't done anything that harms society in any way. That's not child porn at all. The fact that people think it might be is frightening. Totally agree. | ||
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