EPT20 Years for a Youtube Prank? - Page 12
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proxy561
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Suncrusher
Canada55 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
I'm fairly sure people would just laugh at that where I live, and sure as hell he wouldn't be put on a trial, especially not charged with 20 years in jail. Our max sentence for committing a murder is lower than that, which is dumb but thats a whole another story. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
He also doesnt deserve jail time. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On February 19 2011 09:48 ggrrg wrote: 1) I'd say that children being at school is not exactly a "private affair" or "intrusion of solitude" 2) children being at school doesn't fall under "embarrassing private information" either 3) somewhat debatable, but considering there was a disclaimer explaining that the video is staged should rule this out, too (you know, like the disclaimers they put in tv shows e.g. "all characters and events in this show - even those based on real people - are entirely fictional"). Not to mention that anybody with a semi-functional brain would realize that the kids were most certainly not dancing to offensive lyrics even without reading the disclaimer... 4) now, that's a point he can be sued over, but it most certainly doesn't warrant a 20-years sentence or any jail time for that matter destruction of reputations!? Whose? The children's? Or maybe the teachers'? Or the principal's? The video doesn't claim that any of the officials were involved in creating or approved of the material, and in addition there was a disclaimer that actually says the exact opposite. A case (a stupid one but nevertheless) could be made that the video could be interpreted in an unfavorable way for some officials, but this doesn't warrant a prison sentence. Furthermore, neither "invasion of privacy" nor "destruction of reputations" is why everybody in this thread feels the urge to face palm. The reasons is that some crazy prosecutor somehow came to the idea to file a sexual abuse charge! p.s. Astonishing how you can even dare to compare a disclosed internet joke with a life-endangering, possibly life-claiming, property destroying crime like arson. I agree wholeheartedly with your reaction and response. Like I said earlier, there is no legitimate case against this guy. As stupid as he comes off, there is no reason for him to be locked up. A simple fine and community hours would suffice. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12816 Posts
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Toxi78
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elKaDor
Sweden376 Posts
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Atticus.axl
United States456 Posts
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Jaug
Sweden249 Posts
Jail time is just ridiculous. | ||
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chocopan
Japan986 Posts
20 years would obviously be excessive, he won't receive that. On the issue of the act itself though, I can't see why it doesn't fall within the scope of the relevant criminal statute. And I can say for sure if I was a parent and saw my child dancing to that stuff on youtube, I'd be apopleptic. (Not that that of itself is a reason to criminalize the conduct, just as an aside.) Oh finally, please don't confuse "suits" and criminal acts. Criminal law for crimes, tort law for civil actions. This story is about the criminal statute. Re possible civil actions, I don't know, you could try torts of trespass (purpose of entry outside agreed scope - should be relatively easy to argue, at first blush), assault (seeing a guy sing sexually predatory/explicit songs at your child on video could arguably give rise to reasonable apprehension of future battery/criminal acts - hard to argue because of relative remoteness of the threatened physical contact; I'd still argue it myself but it's weak), and probably also infliction of mental distress with the plantiff being the parents and possibly also teachers (this is the wishywashiest of these torts which makes it harder to argue but easier to win, depends a lot on the actual facts eg. how freaky/unsettling the video footage actually is, how freaked out the parents got (eggshell skull principle etc) - def worth arguing, hard to predict likelihood of success). | ||
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jeddus
United States832 Posts
Just because something "appears" offensive doesn't mean he broke the law in filming it. I actually blame the teacher for letting him into the class and filming. Then I blame him for not getting releases and misrepresenting himself. Then I blame the people who press charges. Just make him take the video down and apologize. | ||
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Touch
Canada475 Posts
On February 19 2011 08:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Responding with superior sarcasm, mental harm holds importance as well in a court, which was also not in play here. Did the children suffer from mental damage? All I see are overzealous parents and you. Sounds like a good defense against arson. Would you use it? He's not being charged for physically harming people. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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Tiazi
Netherlands761 Posts
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Rylaji
Sweden580 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
I bet he would face a softer penalty for just diddling the kids. | ||
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ReacH.
Scotland333 Posts
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Jswizzy
United States791 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Seriously I came back to this thread just to be outraged by the US justice system. | ||
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