EPTOn March 18 2011 07:48 Kipsate wrote:
So Russia, China, India abstained, was it Germany too or?
So Russia, China, India abstained, was it Germany too or?
Yep. The German rep just gave a lengthy speech on why.
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gzealot
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Yep. The German rep just gave a lengthy speech on why. | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
On March 18 2011 07:47 Ocedic wrote: Seems like it would be smart to vote yes if you're going to abstain from a sure-win vote anyways. In a purely pragmatic sense, at least you don't look like the bad guys, even if for whatever reason you don't actually support it. No way, China voting yes on this invalidates decades of Chinese foreign policy goals, same for Russia. Abstaining is the best they could hope for, voting yes would be both hypocritical and have negative consequences down the road in terms of setting precedent also LOL @ the American lady, St. Patrick's Day much? She has a terrible voice though  | ||
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Nitro68
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Is there a sum up of the german speach ? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On March 18 2011 07:49 Kipsate wrote: So which other country abstained, an Arab country? or perhaps Brazil? Brazil, and South Africa. | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On March 18 2011 07:49 Elegy wrote: No way, China voting yes on this invalidates decades of Chinese foreign policy goals, same for Russia. Abstaining is the best they could hope for, voting yes would be both hypocritical and have negative consequences down the road in terms of setting precedent also LOL @ the American lady, St. Patrick's Day much? She has a terrible voice though What would be those foreign policies that make them abstain/vote no? I'm not arguing, I'd just like to learn more about world politics. | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
On March 18 2011 07:53 Ocedic wrote: What would be those foreign policies that make them abstain/vote no? I'm not arguing, I'd just like to learn more about world politics? China historically always opposes the use of force in any situation, Tibet is a huge liability for them in this regard. likewise, Russian involvement in Chechnya means that a vote supporting the use of force against Libya means a similar measure would have to be adopted against the Russians in the event of more separatist fighting in that region It's a very important move by the UN to do this, and when/if Tibet, Chechnya, and other regions start heating up, it sets a dangerous precedent for them to be supporting the involvement of the UN in such matters | ||
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Kipsate
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(Al jazeera stream btw) | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On March 18 2011 07:48 gzealot wrote: Yep. The German rep just gave a lengthy speech on why. So ashamed of germany, really. At least the rest is standing up doing something. Finally. | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
India, China, Russia, Germany, Brazil and South Africa...thats 6...I thought it was 5? | ||
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Marradron
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On March 18 2011 07:54 Ayush_SCtoss wrote: India, China, Russia, Germany, Brazil and South Africa...thats 6...I thought it was 5? Looks like it was Brazil, based on Brazil's speech. Not sure where he South Africa came from. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On March 18 2011 07:54 Ayush_SCtoss wrote: India, China, Russia, Germany, Brazil and South Africa...thats 6...I thought it was 5? Twitter is saying South Africa as well. | ||
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Marradron
Netherlands1586 Posts
On March 18 2011 07:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Twitter is saying South Africa as well. Well Watching the live vote it was certainly 5. Russia, china, germany, india, and brazil are 100% conformed so that leaves SA out. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On March 18 2011 07:57 Marradron wrote: Well Watching the live vote it was certainly 5. Russia, china, germany, india, and brazil are 100% conformed so that leaves SA out. Interestingly enough, China, India, Brazil and Russia are all major economic powers(or will be ) | ||
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Ghostcom
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On March 18 2011 07:53 Ocedic wrote: What would be those foreign policies that make them abstain/vote no? I'm not arguing, I'd just like to learn more about world politics. Supporting NK for one... And albeit not a foreign political subject, China isn't really a democracy either so should protests arise the Chinese government would be in quite a pickle... | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On March 18 2011 07:58 Kipsate wrote: Interestingly enough, China, India, Brazil and Russia are all major economic powers(or will be ) So are Germany, UK, France and USA :o Anyway though, good news, the NFZ has finally been authorized! | ||
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RxN
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