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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 23 2011 23:26 GMT
#2101
Gaddafi forces spread thin, revs in Zawiya, Zuara, Misrata, Bani Walid & Nafousa Mts. making advancements, along w/East front #libya #feb17


Zawiya and Zuara started counter offensives against Gaddafi forces to REcapture the cities #libya #feb17



More western cities making moves against Gaddafi forces: Zuara revolutionists destroyed 2 Gaddafi tanks & captured 30 soldiers #libya #feb17
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Suisen
Profile Joined April 2011
256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 00:21:22
April 24 2011 00:17 GMT
#2102
On April 23 2011 02:47 Kukaracha wrote:
I remember seeing something similar in the early stages of the Libyan conflict. Some random french "philosopher" (read "a guy who goes on TV but who gets bashed by true philosophers and specialists") went to Libya to meet the rebels.

I remember seeing that with my GF and being quite astonished. WTF? It was like Lily Allen going there and "demanding justice" to the western authorities.

Some people are just attention whores.



Uuh, didn't that guy trigger the whole western intervention because he is a friend of Sarkozy and he put Sarkozy into contact with leaders of the rebels?

Attention whore? For good or for bad, that guy is making policy. Other French philosophers can only dream about that.

Who was that Greek philosopher that lamented that with great wisdom came an equally great wish for power? French philosophers have quite a reputation of not being all too wise, but surely they all believe they are wise. Yet for a moment this guy actually had the power to start wars and you call it 'attention whoring'? It is what all those 'real' French philosophers dream off.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 24 2011 22:56 GMT
#2103
Three state television stations have gone off the air after "Major" explosions heard in Tripoli.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
April 25 2011 00:29 GMT
#2104
On April 24 2011 09:17 Suisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 02:47 Kukaracha wrote:
I remember seeing something similar in the early stages of the Libyan conflict. Some random french "philosopher" (read "a guy who goes on TV but who gets bashed by true philosophers and specialists") went to Libya to meet the rebels.

I remember seeing that with my GF and being quite astonished. WTF? It was like Lily Allen going there and "demanding justice" to the western authorities.

Some people are just attention whores.



Uuh, didn't that guy trigger the whole western intervention because he is a friend of Sarkozy and he put Sarkozy into contact with leaders of the rebels?

Attention whore? For good or for bad, that guy is making policy. Other French philosophers can only dream about that.

Who was that Greek philosopher that lamented that with great wisdom came an equally great wish for power? French philosophers have quite a reputation of not being all too wise, but surely they all believe they are wise. Yet for a moment this guy actually had the power to start wars and you call it 'attention whoring'? It is what all those 'real' French philosophers dream off.


No no no you misunderstood what I meant, the guy did basically nothing since Sarkozy already knew all this thanks to french information and secret services!
Diplomats were already in contact with the rebels, and Sarkozy wanted to gain some popularity back, so he used this guy to twist the context from "the west intervenes to secure their interests in Libya" to "we are fighting for freedom".
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
April 25 2011 00:32 GMT
#2105
On April 17 2011 12:30 Petruccio wrote:
Even if you see some footage rebels fighting, they shoot and scream "allah akbar" all the time. No, ordinary Libyans do not do that.


Jesus!
Oh my God!
Dear Lord!
Jesus Christ!
Oh God please!

Etc...


And thank you again CCStealth for the constant updates.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Bidu
Profile Joined June 2010
United States29 Posts
April 25 2011 00:37 GMT
#2106
On February 19 2011 07:02 Ilfirin wrote:
Britain is revoking arms exports to Libya and Bahrain, and possibly(??) to Yemen.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/02/bahrain-protests-1.html



Ten years too late. :|
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 25 2011 00:57 GMT
#2107
I love how EU/US tries to pad their military contractors pockets a thwart immigration under guise of killing people for humanitarian reasons.
MC for president
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 25 2011 04:57 GMT
#2108
AJDABIYA, Libya – Libyan rebel fighter Jaad Jumaa Hashmi cranks up the volume on his pickup truck's stereo when he heads into battle against Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

He looks for inspiration from a growing cadre of amateur rappers whose powerful songs have helped define the revolution.

The music captures the anger and frustration young Libyans feel at decades of repressive rule under Gadhafi, driving the 27-year-old Hashmi forward even though the heavy machine gun bolted on the back of his truck — and other weapons in the rebel arsenal — are no match for Gadhafi's heavy artillery.

"It captures the youths' quest for freedom and a decent life and gives us motivation," Hashmi said as he sat in his truck on the outskirts of the front line city of Ajdabiya. He was listening to "Youth of the Revolution," which the rap group Music Masters wrote just days after the uprising began in mid-February.


Source
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 30 2011 23:29 GMT
#2109
NATO has hit Gaddafi's house where he and his wife were both escaped but his youngest son and three of his grandchildren have been killed.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Attican
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark531 Posts
May 01 2011 00:19 GMT
#2110
On May 01 2011 08:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
NATO has hit Gaddafi's house where he and his wife were both escaped but his youngest son and three of his grandchildren have been killed.


Isn't that sort of an assassination attempt? I thought that was illegal. Of course it would be great for this to finally end but I would prefer proper justice rather than something like this.

To contribute something http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/gaddafi-says-libya-ready-for-ceasefire_n_855815.html Nato rejects a ceasefire offer from Gaddafi. Seems to me like Gaddafi is just slowly gonna lose ground until the rebels finally win. Hopefully it'll end soon though
Tali
Profile Joined July 2010
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 00:38:18
May 01 2011 00:37 GMT
#2111
On May 01 2011 08:29 Attican wrote:
Isn't that sort of an assassination attempt? I thought that was illegal. Of course it would be great for this to finally end but I would prefer proper justice rather than something like this.


I think once you've begun firing mortars and other dumb weaponry indiscriminately on your own people they can probably reclassify you as a war criminal or tyrant and legally justify "assassination" in the name of saving innocent lives. It would be a completely different story if he hadn't been committing such atrocities and NATO had bombed his home.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 01 2011 01:05 GMT
#2112
They have the bigger guns, they can do what they want. That's what it really boils down to. "Legalities" are not an issue, just a facade behind which we can make believe that this is some grand battle between good and evil. A weapon is a policymaker. Do not forget that.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Electric.Jesus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany755 Posts
May 01 2011 09:22 GMT
#2113
On May 01 2011 10:05 Mortality wrote:
They have the bigger guns, they can do what they want. That's what it really boils down to. "Legalities" are not an issue, just a facade behind which we can make believe that this is some grand battle between good and evil. A weapon is a policymaker. Do not forget that.


Hate to say it but you are right!
"Sir, the enemy has us sourrounded" - "Excellent, now we can attack in any direction!"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 02 2011 02:21 GMT
#2114
Obama to make a special announcement in 10 minutes, no idea if it's about Libya.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 02:29:44
May 02 2011 02:29 GMT
#2115
Apologies it's not Libya related.

edit: double post damn.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
May 02 2011 04:46 GMT
#2116
What a joke. So much for simply enforcing a no fly zone. 3 innocent children are now dead for the crime of being in Gaddhafi's vicinity.
Petruccio
Profile Joined November 2010
90 Posts
May 02 2011 18:44 GMT
#2117
"Gaddafi 'supplies troops with Viagra to encourage mass rape', claims diplomat US ambassador Susan Rice"
What a joke! You need an aphrodisiac to "encourage rape", not Viagra. And first of all, why on Earth they Gaddafi would need that??
Is there a limit of bs they pour on poor gullible Americans? Why not "Gaddafi troops eat babies?", for example?
Petruccio
Profile Joined November 2010
90 Posts
May 02 2011 19:25 GMT
#2118
Bombs hit Gaddafi home: Nato strikes kill son and three grandchildren...
David Cameron defends bombing as 'in line' with UN resolution.

I tried hard, but cannot understand how no fly zone and "protecting civilians" justifies the clear attempts to assassinate Gaddafi.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382341/Libya-Nato-strikes-kill-Gaddafis-son-grandchildren.html

Petruccio
Profile Joined November 2010
90 Posts
May 02 2011 19:38 GMT
#2119
Financial Heist of the Century: Confiscating Libya's Sovereign Wealth Funds (SWF)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24479

$32 billion and 45 billion Euros of Libyan funds, not bad. Why the worries about the costs of NATO operation? It is already paid for itself.
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
May 02 2011 19:47 GMT
#2120
On May 03 2011 04:38 Petruccio wrote:
Financial Heist of the Century: Confiscating Libya's Sovereign Wealth Funds (SWF)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24479

$32 billion and 45 billion Euros of Libyan funds, not bad. Why the worries about the costs of NATO operation? It is already paid for itself.


Did you just equate the freezing of funds with theft?
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