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You just don't know what to be critical of as a source. It is useless to discuss. If you want scientific data, you don't listen to ONE officer training people to kill..ofc he will say people kill. When it is even what he calls "warrior poetry" in a link, you know something is wrong. Especially when including "Counter-strike" images. Including that is very inappropriate. These are things you learn to be critical of to NOT talk out of your ass, and I am not claiming to be a scientific source. Science is not about trusting people, it is about the truth, so you are very careful in choosing sources.. You never trust a source who is clearly biased. So you are the one that has to stop linking sources that makes people actually take you seriously. Not linking sources at all is better than linking sources with potentially alarmingly biased data. This is how you know how to use a source, or not from any media.
Like I said in my post. They use special forces to do the real killing, and soldiers who are further away from direct killing, are more likely to feel distant enough to deal with it. If you think recruites in the infantry in general are well enough trained to be psychologically ready to kill when needed, you are wrong. I am not saying nobody can kill. More recruites shoot to kill than earlier because of training, but still not alot. But i really don't care when you go to this level of discussion.
I am really sorry about you feeling discredited. As far as I can see, you were the first to discredit me in anger, and linking the most ridiculous site as science. I am stating what I have learned from my training in psychology, and what I have seen as the most credible data, and scientific experiments after learning what to look for as signs of credibility. There is no integrity-stamp in most data on the internet, and a free heaven for all kinds of info.
About me not giving any sources: i tried to find a good source on the internet, but publiched work just don't lie around on the net for everbody to tamper with, and I am not searching for a good hour, paying to convince someone on TL, or giving equally bad sources. Real work is protected in most cases. Every time I have written something, I have had to order almost all sources through the university, and often even pay a little for an issue. You do have sites where you can pay for some sources.
I am done with this. Savoir the last word.
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I sure as hell do know how to value a source and some dude on a forum saying "trust me guys, i know it" is just not really trustworthy, or do you see this different?
Oh, ofc you do, you think that source is more trustworthy than an ex military officer actually training recruits to kill people.
can you please show me where I credited www.killology.com as a site of science? I really did miss that part. I randomly linked that site as a source telling something different than your ass.
your "style" of discrediting a source is very funny: "He has a gun in his banner, he calls 'warrior poetry'"
wow, now that is some really critical source research.
can you also tell me how he is differently biased than the NATO sources you claim to have but failed to deliver?
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Science is not about trusting people, it is about the truth.
MUAHHAHAHA, I overread this. Do you have ANY clue how science works? Did you ever publish a scientifical paper? Are you even in a scientifical institution like a university? God you discredit yourself so much with such bullshit statements.
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Back on topic, the president of SK addresses his nation in 10 minutes.
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Quickly reading through thread so I may have missed it but why did SK refuse the talks?
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That's what I figured. N Korea has used those talks to stall and get aid despite all the trouble they've caused for years. You can't blame S Korea and the US for being fed up with the charade once and for all.
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On November 29 2010 08:43 oRacLeGosu wrote:
You just don't know what to be critical of as a source. It is useless to discuss. If you want scientific data, you don't listen to ONE officer training people to kill..ofc he will say people kill. When it is even what he calls "warrior poetry" in a link, you know something is wrong. Especially when including "Counter-strike" images. Including that is very inappropriate. These are things you learn to be critical of to NOT talk out of your ass, and I am not claiming to be a scientific source. Science is not about trusting people, it is about the truth.. You never trust a source who is clearly biased. So you are the one that has to stop linking sources that makes people actually take you seriously. Not linking sources at all is better than linking sources with potentially alarmingly biased data. This is how you know how to use a source, or not from any media.
Like I said in my post. They use special forces to do the real killing, and soldiers who are further away from direct killing, are more likely to feel distant enough to deal with it. If you think recruites in the infantry in general are well enough trained to be psychologically ready to kill when needed, you are wrong. I am not saying nobody can kill. More recruites shoot to kill than earlier because of training, but still not alot. But i really don't care when you go to this level of discussion.
I am really sorry about you feeling discredited. As far as I can see, you were the first to discredit me in anger, and linking the most ridiculous site as science. I am stating what I have learned from my training in psychology, and what I have seen as the most credibel data, and scientific experiments after learning what to look for as signs of credibility. There is no integrity-stamp in most data on the internet, and a free heaven for all kinds of info.
I am done with this. Savoir the last word.
Funny you say this and end up having no sources for yourself. What are your qualifications in stating these things? O_o
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UPDATE:
Lee calls N. Korea's attack 'inhumane,' calls for national unity
SEOUL, Nov. 29 (Yonhap) -- South Korean President Lee Myung-bak on Monday strongly condemned North Korea's recent shelling of a South Korean border island, saying an attack against civilians is an "inhumane" crime strictly prohibited even during a war.
He pledged that Seoul will make Pyongyang pay a price corresponding to any future provocations.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/11/29/38/0301000000AEN20101129002600315F.HTML
+ Show Spoiler +South Korea wont do anything about the north korean attack...only in any future provocations.
ALSO:
South Korea's president on Monday took responsibility for failing to protect South Koreans from a deadly North Korean artillery attack last week, even as he vowed that the North would face consequences for future aggression.
Lee Myung-bak didn't offer specifics about those consequences nor did he say what actions South Korea will take in response to the artillery barrage on Yeonpyeong Island that killed four, including two civilians, and sent tensions soaring in the region.
"I feel deeply responsible for failing to protect my people's lives and property," Lee said. He said he was "very sorry and regretful" for the death of innocent people.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/28/south-koreas-leader-says-feels-responsible-north-korean-attack/
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SK have too much to lose. They can't pursue a war.
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The drills go on till Wednesday, correct? I wonder if North Korea will simply tolerate the live-firing drills, or give SK the "future provocation" they've been threatening about.
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War will happen again. I can't see SK just letting it self get hit like this. I mean 20+ sailors , now civilians? How much more will it take before they let more happen?
I mean this has been going on since the war ended 50+ years ago but i'm pretty sure the pres of SK is thinking enough is enough.
He said they would pay the price for the sailors that died now he is saying it again.
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On November 29 2010 11:08 ShadeR wrote:
SK have too much to lose. They can't pursue a war.
Considering how things are going, I don't think SK agrees with you.
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You might want to read the post above mine where they decide to not opt for conflict...
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On November 29 2010 12:10 Dr.Kill-Joy wrote:
War will happen again. I can't see SK just letting it self get hit like this. I mean 20+ sailors , now civilians? How much more will it take before they let more happen?
I mean this has been going on since the war ended 50+ years ago but i'm pretty sure the pres of SK is thinking enough is enough.
He said they would pay the price for the sailors that died now he is saying it again.
South Korea certainly seems to be taking a more aggressive stance than in its past. I suspect China will be forced to coerce SK into backing down should the situation escalate any further.
Truly, China has impeccable patience, trying to keep their cool while the US refuses to turn around their aircraft carrier and both Koreas are ready to go for the throat.
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On November 29 2010 12:15 ShadeR wrote:
You might want to read the post above mine where they decide to not opt for conflict...
Are you reading the same post as I am? S Korea said they would make N Korea pay if any similar attacks occur in the future. It looks to me like S Korea's chance to escalate hostilities passed in the confusion and now that they’re committed they just need N Korea to give them the excuse they need.
I mean they basically said they're backing down for now, they couldn't escalate after waiting this long without hostilities, but will going to war if N Korea does it again.
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On November 29 2010 10:58 Tytoso wrote:UPDATE:Lee calls N. Korea's attack 'inhumane,' calls for national unity SEOUL, Nov. 29 (Yonhap) -- South Korean President Lee Myung-bak on Monday strongly condemned North Korea's recent shelling of a South Korean border island, saying an attack against civilians is an "inhumane" crime strictly prohibited even during a war. He pledged that Seoul will make Pyongyang pay a price corresponding to any future provocations. http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/11/29/38/0301000000AEN20101129002600315F.HTML+ Show Spoiler +South Korea wont do anything about the north korean attack...only in any future provocations. South Korea's president on Monday took responsibility for failing to protect South Koreans from a deadly North Korean artillery attack last week, even as he vowed that the North would face consequences for future aggression. Lee Myung-bak didn't offer specifics about those consequences nor did he say what actions South Korea will take in response to the artillery barrage on Yeonpyeong Island that killed four, including two civilians, and sent tensions soaring in the region. "I feel deeply responsible for failing to protect my people's lives and property," Lee said. He said he was "very sorry and regretful" for the death of innocent people. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/28/south-koreas-leader-says-feels-responsible-north-korean-attack/
IMO you shouldn't make new accounts to avoid bans, that's against forum rules and will only get you banned longer.
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On November 29 2010 12:18 Duban wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2010 12:15 ShadeR wrote:
You might want to read the post above mine where they decide to not opt for conflict... Are you reading the same post as I am? S Korea said they would make N Korea pay if any similar attacks occur in the future. It looks to me like S Korea's chance to escalate hostilities passed in the confusion and now that they’re committed they just need N Korea to give them the excuse they need. I mean they basically said they're backing down for now, they couldn't escalate after waiting this long without hostilities, but will going to war if N Korea does it again.
SKorea has said what it said now after the bombing of a civilian airliner, two assassination attempts on the president, and incursions by submarines. Do you see the trend?
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US-South Korea drill off due to bad weather
Seoul: Joint South Korean and US landing exercises on Mallipo beach were cancelled on Monday with military officials blaming bad weather for the cancellation.
In some cases, journalists were prevented from filming, and the full details behind the cancellation were unclear.
North Korea expressed renewed outrage over the Yellow Sea drills
Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/us-south-korea-drill-off-due-to-bad-weather-69238?
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Meh. As you can see by my 300 posts, I'm ignorant to certain things. Was "Tytoso" banned for sourcing Fox News?
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