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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 10:17:43
May 26 2015 10:12 GMT
#4821
for diy you need a phone connector with the exact lock system and and don't think there is a manufacturer for them.

Edit: also, you kinda need to know for sure if it's the cable
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
May 26 2015 12:40 GMT
#4822
On May 26 2015 18:59 xM(Z wrote:
i am assuming here that you tested the headset on/with a different audio signal(straight from PC or something) and you had the same problem.

- plug them normally, turn on the music, put them on. take turns in bending the cable near the jacks: first the one you plug into your amp then the one plugged into your headset. if you start hearing music(intermittently) on the right headphone, change your cable/check the sockets.
- if you have an ohmmeter just measure them, their resistance: first the cable/wiring then the headphone.
- if you don't have one, you can use a wire and a 1.5Volt battery to check the wire continuity.
the tip of the 3.5mm jack is always wired to the Left channel, the middle is always wired to the Right channel and the thing/part with the fillet(?) is the ground(the common wire for both channels). link one battery terminal(?) (the polarity doesn't matter) to the ground and with the other, gently tap the tip and the middle of the jack. with the headset on, if everything is fine, you should hear clicks alternating between L and R sides.
if the right side gives you nothing, go up the wire until you hit the headphone (have the battery terminals right where the original wires are soldered on).
DO NOT keep the battery wired to the headphone for longer than a few sec. in theory there is no problem in doing that (since an amp can hit a headset with +- 10volts (20Vpp)) but it's better to be safe than sorry.


I've tested the headset straight from the pc and the problem is the same.
I've plugged my ipod earbuds straight from the pc and straight on the amp (through a jack adapter) and L/R work fine.

I've done what you suggested and bended the cables at both ends to no effect. I don't have a battery + wire under hand right now. Not sure I understand what you mean by 'go up the wire'...do I have to take away all the 'casing' to have the battery+wire in direct contact with the headphone wires, or can I test it 'through' the cord ?
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 13:19:42
May 26 2015 13:19 GMT
#4823
nope,
the idea is to end up with the battery terminals connected here + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
while checking the wiring in the process.
by up the wire i meant - starting from the jack you plug into the amp, go to the next place where you have exposed wires. don't ruin the cable.
there's a place inside the left headphone and another one as shown in that picture of yours, inside the right one.
the measurement points are: the amp jack, inside L then inside R headphone. (why also inside L? - the wire going across your headset from L to R could be broken).
you can just jump straight to R headphone, put the battery terminals where the arrows are pointing and listen to the clicks.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
May 26 2015 13:28 GMT
#4824
On May 26 2015 22:19 xM(Z wrote:
nope,
the idea is to end up with the battery terminals connected here + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
while checking the wiring in the process.
by up the wire i meant - starting from the jack you plug into the amp, go to the next place where you have exposed wires. don't ruin the cable.
there's a place inside the left headphone and another one as shown in that picture of yours, inside the right one.
the measurement points are: the amp jack, inside L then inside R headphone. (why also inside L? - the wire going across your headset from L to R could be broken).
you can just jump straight to R headphone, put the battery terminals where the arrows are pointing and listen to the clicks.



Thanks for the input, I'll test this as soon as possible. Just out of the blue, if i detect the location of the problem...is there an easy manual fix for it or do I have to invest in tools to fix it ?
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5286 Posts
May 26 2015 13:50 GMT
#4825
you should end up with something like + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
. one wire connecting the battery and a pad and the other(or the tip of the battery) just tap the other pad of the headphone.

well if the wiring is bad you can change it but if the wires leading to the coil of your headphone are busted there's nothing you can do.
in your picture, from those 2 most inside pads you'll have 2 really thin wires going to the moving-coil of the headphone(roughly, the other side of your headphone + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
) . those can break too and you cant replace them.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
May 26 2015 16:30 GMT
#4826
On May 26 2015 22:50 xM(Z wrote:
you should end up with something like + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
. one wire connecting the battery and a pad and the other(or the tip of the battery) just tap the other pad of the headphone.

well if the wiring is bad you can change it but if the wires leading to the coil of your headphone are busted there's nothing you can do.
in your picture, from those 2 most inside pads you'll have 2 really thin wires going to the moving-coil of the headphone(roughly, the other side of your headphone + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
) . those can break too and you cant replace them.



Sounds like I'm good for a replacement. Any tip for any good replacement under 50 euros (new) or second hand replacement (on ebay) under 50 euros too ?
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5286 Posts
May 26 2015 16:43 GMT
#4827
no idea, really.
i bought recently a pair of sennheisers(hd598) but being a fanboy, i only looked at sennheiser headsets at around 50 Ohms impedance.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 01:53:08
June 05 2015 01:51 GMT
#4828
I know its nothing fancy but i got myself a creative E1 portable headphone amp.

First one, so chose entry level and damn, i feel like i've been really missing out on the headphone amp world. Thankfully my stuff is easy to run so I don't need anything too powerful ... for now

Maybe for christmas I'll treat myself to a nice midrange desktop amp/dac

On May 27 2015 01:30 Eurekastreet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 22:50 xM(Z wrote:
you should end up with something like + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
. one wire connecting the battery and a pad and the other(or the tip of the battery) just tap the other pad of the headphone.

well if the wiring is bad you can change it but if the wires leading to the coil of your headphone are busted there's nothing you can do.
in your picture, from those 2 most inside pads you'll have 2 really thin wires going to the moving-coil of the headphone(roughly, the other side of your headphone + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
) . those can break too and you cant replace them.



Sounds like I'm good for a replacement. Any tip for any good replacement under 50 euros (new) or second hand replacement (on ebay) under 50 euros too ?


If you haven't called Shure I would say you are crazy. They have really really good customer care in my experience. I only buy shure stuff because of it.
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Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
June 13 2015 12:18 GMT
#4829
On June 05 2015 10:51 ZeromuS wrote:
I know its nothing fancy but i got myself a creative E1 portable headphone amp.

First one, so chose entry level and damn, i feel like i've been really missing out on the headphone amp world. Thankfully my stuff is easy to run so I don't need anything too powerful ... for now

Maybe for christmas I'll treat myself to a nice midrange desktop amp/dac

Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 01:30 Eurekastreet wrote:
On May 26 2015 22:50 xM(Z wrote:
you should end up with something like + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
. one wire connecting the battery and a pad and the other(or the tip of the battery) just tap the other pad of the headphone.

well if the wiring is bad you can change it but if the wires leading to the coil of your headphone are busted there's nothing you can do.
in your picture, from those 2 most inside pads you'll have 2 really thin wires going to the moving-coil of the headphone(roughly, the other side of your headphone + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
) . those can break too and you cant replace them.



Sounds like I'm good for a replacement. Any tip for any good replacement under 50 euros (new) or second hand replacement (on ebay) under 50 euros too ?


If you haven't called Shure I would say you are crazy. They have really really good customer care in my experience. I only buy shure stuff because of it.


Well the headphones were a few years old so i doubt I could have had a cheap fix...but didn't know about their customer service, I'll keep that in mind for next time.
The day after my post, the left earphone came loose from the rest from the structure, so I decided to let go of the entire thing. Loved the sound of these headphones but it was getting too much hassle (even if I could fix the first problem, didn't want to have tape all over my ear/hair for the months to come ;d)

"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 13 2015 15:21 GMT
#4830
Are Sennheiser 598's usable in an office even though they are open?

Looking for a pair of headphones I can use in the office between $100-$250. Might end up shelling out a little extra for the Bose ones if I can't find anything else.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5286 Posts
June 13 2015 16:17 GMT
#4831
it depends on the office ...
598's dump by about 10%(at most) the outside noise.
at around the same price but closed and with damn good insulation i'd recommend the Focal Spirit One (or something from focal)
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 13 2015 16:26 GMT
#4832
BEYERDYNAMIC 880 are very comfy for office , i can wear them for hours and not feel them.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
June 13 2015 16:55 GMT
#4833
looking for a pair of in-ear headphones, a lot of the review sites recommend bose freestyle.

I'm not really looking for anything particular, just something that's comfortable, and that's about it.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 17:06:56
June 13 2015 17:06 GMT
#4834
On June 14 2015 01:26 bluzi wrote:
BEYERDYNAMIC 880 are very comfy for office , i can wear them for hours and not feel them.

i assumed he wants to insulate himself from the office sounds (focals can can shave up to ~20db, which is huge. you put them on and the world goes silent ).
your headset pick is semi-opened and has 250ohm which means you'd probably need an amp too.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 17:12:04
June 13 2015 17:11 GMT
#4835
On June 14 2015 00:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
Are Sennheiser 598's usable in an office even though they are open?

Looking for a pair of headphones I can use in the office between $100-$250. Might end up shelling out a little extra for the Bose ones if I can't find anything else.

do not get them for the office. that includes the DT880 and any other open/semi open headphone.

unless it's a 1 man office
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Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
June 13 2015 17:29 GMT
#4836
On June 14 2015 02:06 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 01:26 bluzi wrote:
BEYERDYNAMIC 880 are very comfy for office , i can wear them for hours and not feel them.

i assumed he wants to insulate himself from the office sounds (focals can can shave up to ~20db, which is huge. you put them on and the world goes silent ).
your headset pick is semi-opened and has 250ohm which means you'd probably need an amp too.

There are 3 impedance versions of the 880, one of which is like 32 ohms.
Still not good for an office though if there's anyone within 20 feet.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 13 2015 18:05 GMT
#4837
On June 14 2015 01:17 xM(Z wrote:
it depends on the office ...
598's dump by about 10%(at most) the outside noise.
at around the same price but closed and with damn good insulation i'd recommend the Focal Spirit One (or something from focal)


So by 10% you mean they'd be pretty usable in a quiet-ish office?

On June 14 2015 01:26 bluzi wrote:
BEYERDYNAMIC 880 are very comfy for office , i can wear them for hours and not feel them.


That's at the upper end of my price range, and for $300 I might just get Bose. How do the two compare?
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 13 2015 18:43 GMT
#4838
On June 14 2015 01:55 Cambium wrote:
looking for a pair of in-ear headphones, a lot of the review sites recommend bose freestyle.

I'm not really looking for anything particular, just something that's comfortable, and that's about it.

hifiman re400
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5286 Posts
June 13 2015 19:11 GMT
#4839
On June 14 2015 03:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 01:17 xM(Z wrote:
it depends on the office ...
598's dump by about 10%(at most) the outside noise.
at around the same price but closed and with damn good insulation i'd recommend the Focal Spirit One (or something from focal)


So by 10% you mean they'd be pretty usable in a quiet-ish office?

it really depends on your goal. if you want to sometimes hear what's going on in the office, you could always just turn down the volume (and just the same, you can up the music volume and hear only the loudest noises from the office).
(can't describe better those 10% = you'd easily hear those other 90%, depending on the volume )
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 17 2015 15:09 GMT
#4840
On June 14 2015 02:06 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 01:26 bluzi wrote:
BEYERDYNAMIC 880 are very comfy for office , i can wear them for hours and not feel them.

i assumed he wants to insulate himself from the office sounds (focals can can shave up to ~20db, which is huge. you put them on and the world goes silent ).
your headset pick is semi-opened and has 250ohm which means you'd probably need an amp too.


I work in a big tech company with open space thing , so i need to able to hear if someone is calling me, but if i turn up the volume i can't hear anything , really nothing (and its not that loud) , it also makes no outside noise , which can annoy ppl if you work close to ppl (which i don't but maybe he does).
the main thing and i will say it again , they are VERY comfy which makes them great for me i can work 10-12 hours with them on and not feel it, do i hear someone shouting or talking loud next to me , sure ,but very slightly , i wouldn't wear a sound proof headphones to work , but i can see why some pp l might.
I don't use an amp , they are great as it is , great sound as well , but maybe I'm biased :D
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