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On December 21 2010 23:00 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2010 20:36 Jswizzy wrote:On December 21 2010 20:27 qwaykee wrote:
i think there is a difference between being pedophile and abusing children. when i think pedophile its a person that gets aroused by children, he doesn't have to abuse them of any sort. and its not something you could just turn off, just as being homosexual I doubt there is a pedophile gene, esp when you consider how hight the rate of child abusers who were also abused them selves is. I would think that most people who feel this way about kids were molested themselves at an impressionable age and could never quite come to terms with it leaving them sexually confused for the rest of their lives. Comparing pedophiles to homosexuals just don't hold up in my book. There's a large difference here. Child molesters (what you're describing) aren't necessarily attracted to children - they do it because it's something they experienced as children and so feel that it's necessary, they need the control, etc. etc... Similar to rapists. They don't usually rape out of sexual desire, they do it for psychological control.
I don't really have time to debunk you except to say that pretty much everything you said is false.
Rape is very much a "sexual desire," and child molesters are not what they are because of something that happened to them during childhood. Read less bad psychology.
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On December 22 2010 01:30 Mayfly wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2010 23:00 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 21 2010 20:36 Jswizzy wrote:On December 21 2010 20:27 qwaykee wrote:
i think there is a difference between being pedophile and abusing children. when i think pedophile its a person that gets aroused by children, he doesn't have to abuse them of any sort. and its not something you could just turn off, just as being homosexual I doubt there is a pedophile gene, esp when you consider how hight the rate of child abusers who were also abused them selves is. I would think that most people who feel this way about kids were molested themselves at an impressionable age and could never quite come to terms with it leaving them sexually confused for the rest of their lives. Comparing pedophiles to homosexuals just don't hold up in my book. There's a large difference here. Child molesters (what you're describing) aren't necessarily attracted to children - they do it because it's something they experienced as children and so feel that it's necessary, they need the control, etc. etc... Similar to rapists. They don't usually rape out of sexual desire, they do it for psychological control. I don't really have time to debunk you except to say that pretty much everything you said is false. Rape is very much a "sexual desire," and child molesters are not what they are because of something that happened to them during childhood. Read less bad psychology.
You didn't read his whole post he was talking about what the other guy said. Most of what he said is true : child molesters != Paedophiles
The opposite is true tho.
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To answer the question in OP - No, there is no limit for free speech. Yes this book is disturbing to most of us, but censorship and limitation of free speech is not the way to go.
Free speech means that sometimes the asshole wins.
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On December 22 2010 02:20 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:Good news indeed!
Good news, aside from the fact that he got arrested for writing a book, not committing a crime. If he'd been raping kids, great. But for just wording your thoughts onto paper?
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How awful. I wonder how soon it is before it's illegal to be a pedophile and you're forced into jail/institutionalization for it?
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On December 22 2010 02:24 plated.rawr wrote:Good news, aside from the fact that he got arrested for writing a book, not committing a crime. If he'd been raping kids, great. But for just wording your thoughts onto paper?
Stop questioning the thought police.
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On December 22 2010 02:20 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:Good news indeed!
Not...
So much for free speech...
There's also nothing wrong with being a pedophile, just like how there's nothing wrong with being gay.
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From the arrest article:
"If he will waive extradition, it's my goal for him to eat processed turkey on Christmas Day in the Polk County Jail," Judd said.
This cop really has it in for the guy... I hope his wish comes true.
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Have read what the book is about? It fucking teaches pedophiles to get away with crimes against children. If you were married and had young children, and you found out your neighbor is a pedophile, would you be fine with it? You feel weird and he notices, so he confronts you and says "It's ok there's this book I'm reading called Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure, there's no need to worry." Would that unease you?
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On December 22 2010 02:33 buhhy wrote:Not... So much for free speech... There's also nothing wrong with being a pedophile, just like how there's nothing wrong with being gay.
Do you guys really think this low of homosexuals?
I really hate these comparisons. They are not the same. Consenting same sex adults has absolutely nothing to do with having sex with a child
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On December 22 2010 04:05 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:
Have read what the book is about? It fucking teaches pedophiles to get away with crimes against children. If you were married and had young children, and you found out your neighbor is a pedophile, would you be fine with it? You feel weird and he notices, so he confronts you and says "It's ok there's this book I'm reading called Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure, there's no need to worry." Would that unease you?
I'm uneased by shit people do all the time. However, until someone actually commits a crime, not just reading or writing about, I will never support prosecuting people on what essentially is thoughtcrime.
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On December 22 2010 04:07 floor exercise wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 02:33 buhhy wrote:On December 22 2010 02:20 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:Good news indeed! Not... So much for free speech... There's also nothing wrong with being a pedophile, just like how there's nothing wrong with being gay. Do you guys really think this low of homosexuals? I really hate these comparisons. They are not the same. Consenting same sex adults has absolutely nothing to do with having sex with a child
Yes, very true... sex with a child fucks them up. Molestation fucks them up. It may work in other societies... such as truly backward tribal arabs (not to be confused with most arabs)... but in western society where adult-child sexual intimacy is taboo and outlawed, it WILL screw with the child's upbringing. Gay sex, on the other hand, just replaces a pussy with an asshole. Really, the two are as comparable as straight sex and pedophilia.
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On December 22 2010 04:17 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 04:05 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:
Have read what the book is about? It fucking teaches pedophiles to get away with crimes against children. If you were married and had young children, and you found out your neighbor is a pedophile, would you be fine with it? You feel weird and he notices, so he confronts you and says "It's ok there's this book I'm reading called Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure, there's no need to worry." Would that unease you? I'm uneased by shit people do all the time. However, until someone actually commits a crime, not just reading or writing about, I will never support prosecuting people on what essentially is thoughtcrime.
Ok. So someone writes a book on how to commit terrorist acts in America and get away with it, you have no qualms with the author being able to stroll freely on the streets?
Also, the author was arrested, so no one who read the book was prosecuted.
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Noone should ever be arrested for writing a book. Acting against a child is criminal but simply being a pedophile or expressing one's ideas never is. But hey we can always feel uneasy near pedophiles, the way other people feel uneasy near other minorities such as homosexuals or black people or immigrants. It's so easy, typical and cowardly to always expect the worst from others.
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On December 22 2010 04:26 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2010 04:17 Myles wrote:On December 22 2010 04:05 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:
Have read what the book is about? It fucking teaches pedophiles to get away with crimes against children. If you were married and had young children, and you found out your neighbor is a pedophile, would you be fine with it? You feel weird and he notices, so he confronts you and says "It's ok there's this book I'm reading called Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure, there's no need to worry." Would that unease you? I'm uneased by shit people do all the time. However, until someone actually commits a crime, not just reading or writing about, I will never support prosecuting people on what essentially is thoughtcrime. Ok. So someone writes a book on how to commit terrorist acts in America and get away with it, you have no qualms with the author being able to stroll freely on the streets? Also, the author was arrested, so no one who read the book was prosecuted.
People have made blockbuster hits on how to successfully commit terrorism acts in America and gotten away with it..
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On December 22 2010 04:05 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:
Have read what the book is about? It fucking teaches pedophiles to get away with crimes against children. If you were married and had young children, and you found out your neighbor is a pedophile, would you be fine with it? You feel weird and he notices, so he confronts you and says "It's ok there's this book I'm reading called Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure, there's no need to worry." Would that unease you?
It would most definitely unease me. I wouldn't call for his ass to be arrested though, and that's the principal difference.
I assume you are also against other books such as Mein Kampf, Anarchist's Cookbook, TiHKAL and whatnot?
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i would actually prefer freedom over security, but i guess im part of a minority in that regard 
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