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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
December 21 2010 05:21 GMT
#1121
I don't think the issue is about the banning of the book anymore. I think the arrest of the man who wrote the book is the bigger issue now.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-21 05:24:51
December 21 2010 05:22 GMT
#1122
nm i misunderstood
EvilNalu
Profile Joined May 2010
United States91 Posts
December 21 2010 05:26 GMT
#1123
On December 21 2010 13:24 SpicyCrab wrote:
Why is it so hard for people to understand that this issue has nothing to do with free speech?

Jeez people, Amazon is a business and they can sell WHATEVER THEY WISH.

This is not an issue of government censorship at all.

now if Amazon decided that public backlash was going to be severe, and they didn't want to deal with it, and they thought it was going to affect their bottom line, then they can stop selling it. That's all that happened.

Not a freedom of speech issue, sorry.


Why is it so hard for you to understand why this thread was bumped, and why it is now a freedom of speech issue?
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
December 21 2010 05:38 GMT
#1124
They took it down? What the fuck amazon, I thought you were taking a stand for free speech
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
-CheekyDuck-
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia398 Posts
December 21 2010 06:37 GMT
#1125
what a setup.

i think the book is disgusting, but to arrest someone over a book... crazy.

there are many tv shows svu? should they all be arrested? where does it stop?

More expensive than a mothership
esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
December 21 2010 07:14 GMT
#1126
think if he goes to trial, what kind of jury wouldn't convict

better hope the judge throws the case out.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
December 21 2010 08:05 GMT
#1127
I could see putting the man who wrote the book under investigation. I'd like to see what a computer forensics specialist can do with his hard drive, honestly.

But yes, I definitely think that there is a limit to free speech. Call me old fashioned, but I think that the molestation of children is something that should be frowned upon in all respects, and not romanticized.
Pandonetho
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada321 Posts
December 21 2010 08:14 GMT
#1128
Call me old fashioned


Pretty sure child rape wasn't a fashion of any time, and the closest thing to being a pedophile without actually breaking the law would have been the old fashioned times of marriage at young age anyway.
stepover12
Profile Joined May 2010
United States175 Posts
December 21 2010 09:07 GMT
#1129
So, according to the CNN article, here's how the arrest is made: the charge is "distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in harmful conduct" - from Florida state law. Apparently an undercover detective from Florida purchased and received the book, and that's that - violation of state law - arrest.
Playboy.
Profile Joined September 2010
40 Posts
December 21 2010 09:32 GMT
#1130
Hell yes. Put that foo behind bar. Can't what to see what his buddy in jails think about his book.
Ajunta
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-21 09:38:32
December 21 2010 09:37 GMT
#1131
this is sick ... screw free speech if this is the price we must pay!
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
December 21 2010 09:50 GMT
#1132
If people didn't act with such outrage, this would never have gotten any attention. And I don't think any more little kids would have been raped thanks to this book than if it were never published.

Child abuse/sexual assault is a big problem but I don't think arresting this man is doing anything for the cause. I bet those cops feel like they're heroes of humanity though.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
December 21 2010 10:04 GMT
#1133
On December 21 2010 18:37 locJ wrote:
this is sick ... screw free speech if this is the price we must pay!


I was always wondering who votes for politicians with radical, stupid ideas. Now I know.
tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
December 21 2010 10:31 GMT
#1134
interesting move, cops
just here
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
December 21 2010 10:34 GMT
#1135
Of course it would be Florida; they're the same ones that ordered DVDs from Max Hardcore's website and successfully prosecuted him. It's like they're trying to police the internet for us.
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Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
December 21 2010 10:36 GMT
#1136
On December 21 2010 19:04 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 18:37 locJ wrote:
this is sick ... screw free speech if this is the price we must pay!


I was always wondering who votes for politicians with radical, stupid ideas. Now I know.


Don't bother explaining it to him, when one dies they spawn into a hundred more and create right-wing political parties with stolen 4chan mottos.


I haven't read the book, obviously, but from what I can tell it seems to me that the author is either well-intentioned but can't control his sexual cravings, or honestly believes a compossionate sexual relationship with a minor should be acceptable.

Either way, he decided to write a book which from what I understand is largely about safety (in a physical, psychological, and don't-find-me legal sense). The only problem is that this man either doesn't understand or doesn't care that a child under 14 isn't mentally developed enough to know whether they want to have sex (a 15 year-old girl knows if she wants sex, even if she ends up regretting it later).

Do I think prison time is the right thing? Definitely not. You'll be turning a presumably gentle child molestor into a prison-hardened paedophile. The man needs therapy, not a few years to get horny and angry behind bars.
Lanaia is love.
Ajunta
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-21 10:42:43
December 21 2010 10:36 GMT
#1137
On December 21 2010 19:04 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 18:37 locJ wrote:
this is sick ... screw free speech if this is the price we must pay!


I was always wondering who votes for politicians with radical, stupid ideas. Now I know.


i was exaggerating AND was referring only to the current discussion
But I see your point

now to rephrase: free speech shouldn't be an absolute law, there are and there will be cases where exceptions have to be made.
Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
December 21 2010 10:50 GMT
#1138
Free speech is not absolute. Why do people think it is?
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
l1mb0
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain14 Posts
December 21 2010 11:02 GMT
#1139
This book is so fu**ing wrong in so many different fu**ing levels it makes me fu**ing sick
Husnan
Profile Joined November 2010
France298 Posts
December 21 2010 11:03 GMT
#1140
On December 21 2010 17:14 Pandonetho wrote:
Pretty sure child rape wasn't a fashion of any time, and the closest thing to being a pedophile without actually breaking the law would have been the old fashioned times of marriage at young age anyway.


Actually, it was, in many places and times. An example that comes to mind is the Roman Empire.
The use and abuse of slave children for sexual pleasure was quite common back then.
You see what happens, Larry? You see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?
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