EPTStarcraft and Poker - Page 2
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Naib
Hungary4952 Posts
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micronesia
United States24805 Posts
BTW I'm going to move this to general I guess... SC2 doesn't seem like the right place to me. | ||
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Chronocide
United States126 Posts
Compared to progamers, who can play their best for 14 hours a day without burning out. That kind of vitality is not a small part of poker. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On August 14 2010 17:38 virgozero wrote: because both starcraft and poker requires a high level of intellect and experience. very decision-heavy activities with neither emphasizing on skill or any other physical demands. there is really no "special" connection if thats what your wondering about. Its as connected as basketball is to soccer both requires skill and teamwork with little emphasis on intelligence. A little off topic here - but if you're of the opinion that basketball doesn't require intelligence and decision making, you need to play more sports. Given the same amount of practice, a more intelligent person is probably going to be better at basketball. | ||
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Golden Ghost
Netherlands1041 Posts
If you want to know more about the why and how I would suggest going to http://www.liquidpoker.net/. A lot of the players that made the transition hang out there. | ||
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
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nucky
Canada43 Posts
On September 06 2010 07:49 Chronocide wrote: The main problem in poker is vitality. I can log on to a poker site and play a single SnG and have a very, very good chance of placing in the money if not finishing first. However I can't play game after game after game and still have a good chance of winning. I lose my concentration, I get tired of the prize, and I get tilted by losing. The same is true for me in starcraft. I can't play a ton of games without running out of steam, and I get very frustrated by losses (especially after investing half an hour of intense play). Compared to progamers, who can play their best for 14 hours a day without burning out. That kind of vitality is not a small part of poker. That's why you have to study yourself. How many tables is more profitable? What limit is the most suitable for you? How Long Can you hold a positive winrate ? $ / Hours | ||
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stroggos
New Zealand1543 Posts
Elky switched over to poker and became a millionaire...so his fans tried poker as well. starcraft requires you to not be retarded. Poker also requires this. So a lot of non retarded people switched over and had success with it....which in turn made more people switch over after seeing even more success. | ||
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KwarK
United States44372 Posts
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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nucky
Canada43 Posts
On September 06 2010 08:02 stroggos wrote: Elky switched over to poker and became a millionaire...so his fans tried poker as well. ahahah My path was parallel. I never knew about Elky until today when I clicked on Bertrand "Elky" Grospellier's profile in my PokerStars account. And I had once asked to myself the same question when I saw a South Korean sponsored by Full Tilt Poker playing online. heres one : http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/eunjong-byun Heres another : http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/somyung-sim THAT's just insane... Lets go make some bread my friends. | ||
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TuElite
Canada2123 Posts
On September 06 2010 07:33 nucky wrote: i'm doing FINE with Poker ! I will play for a living soon, I'm convinced. I've also noticed a link between Poker, Starcraft and Students doing an Economic / Finance Degree. I'm doing all the 3 ! Heres my graff for NL30 and NL50 , only 7k hands played, but its a start. http://img835.imageshack.us/f/graff.jpg/ ![[image loading]](http://img835.imageshack.us/f/graff.jpg/) I think we are gifted people mentally strong enough to achieve great goals. No doubt there's a link. This is the perfect example of what not to be and how not to think... If you have the slightest though of going pro after only 7k hands you will be in a word of shock and will want to kill yourself when you'll hit your first 50 Buy-ins Under EV month.... DO NOT even consider that possibility before AT THE VERY LEAST 200k+ hands... You shouldn't even tell yourself that you are a "winning player" before at the very least 100-150k hands played at your stakes. Google "Poker variance simulator" and you'll see how HUGE the variance truly his. A "losing player" that loses at the rate of -2 bb/100 can still be a winner over a sample of 1 Million hands.... Just due to variance. This is exceptionally rare of course, the example I gave his dramatic on purpose but you get the deal. | ||
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nucky
Canada43 Posts
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TuElite
Canada2123 Posts
I'm not bashing you. I'm just stating this for everyone interested in poker to know. Understanding this variance is very very very crucial. I hope you understand and don't take it personal. Edit: By the way, the simple fact that you posted a 7k hands or one session graph would get you labelled as a fish by anyone knowledgeable in poker. It's just nothing, it doesn't mean anything, so why look at it? Why post it? | ||
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hoborg
United States430 Posts
On September 06 2010 07:54 Golden Ghost wrote: There are a lot of BW players that made a successful transition towards poker. If you want to know more about the why and how I would suggest going to http://www.liquidpoker.net/. A lot of the players that made the transition hang out there. I lurk there sometimes to try to learn things about poker. I can only tell what they're talking about like 10% of the time, it's like they speak a foreign language. I started using pokerstrategy.com after watching the TSL2, but they don't let people from the US see anything beyond the basic-level articles. It's done me well for playing .02nl and dollar sit-and-gos. I'll probably have to actually learn something when I go up in limits, though... | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On September 06 2010 08:10 nucky wrote: ahahah My path was parallel. I never knew about Elky until today when I clicked on Robert "Elky" Grospellier's profile in my PokerStars account. And I had once asked to myself the same question when I saw a South Korean sponsored by Full Tilt Poker playing online. heres one : http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/eunjong-byun Heres another : http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/somyung-sim THAT's just insane... Lets go make some bread my friends. It's Bertrand, not Robert  | ||
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nucky
Canada43 Posts
I Played over 100k Hands. but lets keep this thread simple and forget the detail  [/QUOTE] It's Bertrand, not Robert [/QUOTE]ahahah , sorry | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
On September 06 2010 07:33 nucky wrote: I just registered for THIS thread. correlation between Starcraft and Poker is HUGE. You won't become a better poker player by playing SC, but i noticed that every SC player with decent skills were doing well in Poker! And Why? That's pretty simple, to be successful at Starcraft mean to be disciplined and always focused! Trying to find the leaks to crush your opponent. I think it would be relevant to see the brain activity of a Progamer while playing Poker and SC. I'm sure the solicited parts are pretty much the same area. I'm a good SC player , C on iccup(after a huge 5 years break). was Diamond in Sc2 Beta, and i'm doing FINE with Poker ! I will play for a living soon, I'm convinced. I've also noticed a link between Poker, Starcraft and Students doing an Economic / Finance Degree. I'm doing all the 3 ! Heres my graff for NL30 and NL50 , only 7k hands played, but its a start. http://img835.imageshack.us/f/graff.jpg/ I think we are gifted people mentally strong enough to achieve great goals. No doubt there's a link. So I have an economics degree, play diamond in SC2, and was C- on ICCUP, so you think I should take up poker? franky while, I know the rules and have played a handfull of times, I dont see myself being good it. Is there a good place to learn the basics and get a feel for Online poker before you get owned on the low bet tables? lol | ||
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TuElite
Canada2123 Posts
Could have made a lot of money off of that. | ||
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nucky
Canada43 Posts
On September 06 2010 08:22 Darpa wrote: So I have an economics degree, play diamond in SC2, and was C- on ICCUP, so you think I should take up poker? franky while, I know the rules and have played a handfull of times, I dont see myself being good it. Is there a good place to learn the basics and get a feel for Online poker before you get owned on the low bet tables? lol Obviously, you will learn the game faster than any other random player. There's people who never improve you know. The process can be long, but I think that if you dedicate as much time and energy learning poker than you did with SC, you will become a Winning player without a doubt. Just apply some law, odds, be consistent and you win in the long run. | ||
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