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[Philosophy] Profound prisoner's dilemma. - Page 17

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RhaegarBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria113 Posts
July 23 2010 02:14 GMT
#321
And I realize that what I just wrote is not quite true. But then again, I'm sick of apologizing for your stupidity.

User was warned for this post
Never understimate a rabbit on a mission!
RhaegarBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria113 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 02:17:45
July 23 2010 02:16 GMT
#322
I put a ton of effort into everything I wrote in this topic and I'd rather not waste my energy with people that do not appreciate it in any meaningful to me way.
Never understimate a rabbit on a mission!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 23 2010 02:18 GMT
#323
Then you're not explaining yourself very well, and that's not a deficiency on anyone else's part. You can still explain things in a civil way, or choose not to reply.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
RhaegarBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria113 Posts
July 23 2010 02:21 GMT
#324
Please ban me. FUCKING IDIOTS

User was banned for this post.
Never understimate a rabbit on a mission!
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 02:27:41
July 23 2010 02:24 GMT
#325
On July 23 2010 11:21 RhaegarBeast wrote:
Please ban me. FUCKING IDIOTS

Wow... now you're just coming off like someone who's sore that other people can't appreciate your personal views. Are you really that insecure about your beliefs that you need to take personal offense when people disagree with them? Yeah, you may have put a ton of work into your posts. Do you think my posts just magically typed themselves? Or anyone else's, for the matter. Get over yourself, man...

Terrible attitude...
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
July 23 2010 02:35 GMT
#326
Id press the level as fast as possible. Fuck that other guy, its not like I even know he really exists. As long as its clear that pressing the level releases me, the other guy is fucked unless hes really quick.
USn
Profile Joined March 2010
United States376 Posts
July 23 2010 02:46 GMT
#327
Ok, I'd love to read seventeen pages of rhaegar getting gradually more raged, but actually I wouldn't.

Were there any interesting conclusions reached based on the original post?
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17050 Posts
July 23 2010 02:49 GMT
#328
Besides the fact that it's not actually an example of a prisoner's dilemma, no, not really.
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LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 02:56:02
July 23 2010 02:53 GMT
#329
On July 23 2010 11:46 USn wrote:
Ok, I'd love to read seventeen pages of rhaegar getting gradually more raged, but actually I wouldn't.

Were there any interesting conclusions reached based on the original post?

It's actually a pretty amusing read... He only started raging in the past 2 pages or so.

RhaegarBeast's "solution" is on Page 16:

On July 23 2010 09:32 RhaegarBeast wrote:
Philosophy is personal. My answer is - submit to the prison and work with it to make it a better place for all the prisoners and their guards. Your answer will sadly, but inevitably differ at least a little bit, as you are not me. It is a good question whether I'm actually helping by making people think about that. It's just my wish that we somehow found a solution together and not every man for himself.

And yes, it seems that I'm contradicting myself, but together and every man for himself are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
USn
Profile Joined March 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 02:59:14
July 23 2010 02:58 GMT
#330
I guess that's...

uh...


thinking outside the box. Or something.
opsayo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
591 Posts
July 23 2010 03:00 GMT
#331
i hope you guys realize hes posted this on multiple forums, copy pasting the same token responses from every one

hes just trolling forum to forum
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 03:06:31
July 23 2010 03:02 GMT
#332
On July 23 2010 12:00 opsayo wrote:
i hope you guys realize hes posted this on multiple forums, copy pasting the same token responses from every one

hes just trolling forum to forum

Didn't know that, but it figures...

*Edit: http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/archive/t-616712.html
That's the only other forum I could find and it looks like you were the one that posted it...

*Edit 2: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/47/science-math-philosophy/profound-prisoners-dillema-832186/
Nevermind.. found another one.. -_-
opsayo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
591 Posts
July 23 2010 03:07 GMT
#333
LOL yeah, i posted that one when i realized how good his troll was
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 23 2010 03:31 GMT
#334
I thought there was something fishy about him when he started acting like a philosophy professor on the first few pages

and he kept bumping his own thread and double-posted numerous times
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 23 2010 03:48 GMT
#335
That doesn't mean he's a troll. But I hated this thread. Glad its like won't be posted again. Close?
virgozero
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada412 Posts
July 23 2010 03:52 GMT
#336
On July 23 2010 10:52 JinMaikeul wrote:

Where did I say that philosophy is truly learned through a course? My point was that if he's as off base about what philosophy is, he should go take a basic course before speaking on the matter. Philosophy courses will not teach you everything you need to know, but frankly, you're a fool if you don't believe that they hold value in educating people on the subject.

well yeah duh i agree to that, sry for misunderstanding , ima qq nao


What's the point of sitting there and thinking if you have no idea HOW to think? While people like Socrates and Descarte may not have taken a formal course on the subject, they learned from studying other thinkers. It's not as if these people just sat down one day and formed a world view without any prior education.

nope you dont seem to understand logic and reason. The moment we come alive, our brain is thinking. And our brain (human brain) thinks in a certain way and only that way, logically and reasonably. This is how everything is created, by logic which is innate in all of us. So your saying plato learned philosophy from someone else? Well where did that person learn philosophy from?
Eventually there was SOMEONE who just looked at the leaf falling down and suggested that "things fall". Philosophy is realized with/without people tellling you. The advantage of a philosophy course is that you get to be more exposed to that material and allows for focus. So I do agree that philosophy classes are important but not nearly as important as a person that can actually utilize logic themself. If all a person can do is study history, what descartes said, what Aristotle said, they are as dumb as any average joe on the street. Well maybe smarter since they could at least understand.


Just as science is built on the shoulders of our forefathers, philosophy is too.

both are built upon logic. philosophy itself is logic so that doesn't exactly make sense but whatever. Everyone seems to have their own definitions for philosophy, not that it matters.


By the way, what would you know about Descarte if you didn't study anything about him? Education is important...

and why do we need to know about descarte? I came up with parts of metaphysics myself just by thinking at a young age. 1000000000000000000000 of other people came up with shit like this, people just dont bother to write it down.

catamorphist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States297 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 03:55:05
July 23 2010 03:54 GMT
#337
On July 23 2010 12:52 virgozero wrote:
So your saying plato learned philosophy from someone else?


That probably wasn't a very good example.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/281144/1/catamorphist/
Mariuslol
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway8 Posts
July 23 2010 04:11 GMT
#338
I'm not that bright, but I feel like 90% of what's coming outta Rhaegar is Crap.
And that Jin guy actually has a propper education and didn't get all his
newfound knowledge taking drugs and smoking weed for xx number of years.

Kinda like seeing that stickydrama girl arguing vs. Ken Robinson xD

ps, I would ask the mage "what lever", and have him come show me. Then pretend I
got all spooked and look shockingly behind him, and the second he turns around to check it out....

I PULL OUT THE LEVER AND STAB HIM IN THE EYE!! Killing him, thus negatating
all the magickz he's ever cast!!
Do unto others
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 06:47:56
July 23 2010 05:33 GMT
#339
Wrote a whole long response to virgozero and actually posted it, but I realize that I've no interest in continuing this discussion anymore, especially since the OP has already been banned by his own request and this new discussion really doesn't pertain to the original post at all. I've lost enough sleep over it, anyway... -_-

Maybe if this is somehow still going in a few days, I'll post again, but I suspect the thread will die before that.
USn
Profile Joined March 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 07:32:20
July 23 2010 07:31 GMT
#340
On July 23 2010 12:54 catamorphist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 12:52 virgozero wrote:
So your saying plato learned philosophy from someone else?


That probably wasn't a very good example.


I loled.
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