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Whiplash
United States2929 Posts
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
On July 11 2010 02:04 sArite_nite wrote: I'm boycotting SC2 until the pirated version gets out (which would be never i suppose) Fuck you, Activision, fuck you. Activision really has no say in Blizzard's development. Blizzard isn't one of Activision's developers. Vivendi is still both their parent company. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On July 11 2010 02:32 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: Can Blizz unmerge with Activision? >.< Not really. Usually when groups do that, one party just leaves and starts a new company. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11112 Posts
edit: Once again, we have no reason to necessarily think that this is happening to Blizzard. Blizzard is a much larger and far more important entity than Infinity Ward. Perhaps some of activision's marketing tentacles have reached into Blizzard, but that's probably it. | ||
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Spiffeh
United States830 Posts
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4360/kotck.png) Google shares my sentiments. | ||
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saritenite
Singapore1680 Posts
On July 11 2010 02:33 Railz wrote: Activision really has no say in Blizzard's development. Blizzard isn't one of Activision's developers. Vivendi is still both their parent company. Yeah but Activision's still milking everything it can get it's hands on. Who's to say they havent touched Blizzard yet? I'm not supporting any company that does whatever it wants without regard to the scene. If Activision touches SC2, we're on our way to the CnC franchise's destination. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
As for Vivendi, Blizzard, and Activision, why is everyone still spouting incorrect information? It's not hard to look things up and confirm for yourself. "Activion Blizzard, Inc", headed by Kotick (CEO and President), has direct control over Blizzard's activities - Blizzard is a business unit of that company. It's true Vivendi owns a majority share of Activision Blizzard, but Activision Blizzard is not under Vivendi's direct control. Of course Vivendi execs have Kotick's ear, and Kotick likely will listen to anything they suggest, but for Vivendi to assume more direct control of Activision Blizzard's business activities (and thus Blizzard), they need to have the board of directors (of Activision Blizzard) replace Kotick. Since Vivendi owns a majority of Activision Blizzard shares, Vivendi can dictate who the board of directors are, and thus can replace Activision Blizzard executives through those means, but that is something that is not done at the drop of a hat. In practice, Kotick and his executive team run Activision and Blizzard. Only if Vivendi execs notice something at Activision Blizzard that they really don't like will they exercise their power and replace the executive team at Activision Blizzard, but that'll only happen in extreme cases. Given that the formation of Activision Blizzard was due Vivendi's move to separate Blizzard from Vivendi to merge with Activision in return for a majority shareholding in the new merged company, it's likely that Vivendi did NOT want to be involved with the day to day management of Blizzard (while also being extract "value" from what was a locked subsidiary). | ||
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garmule2
United States376 Posts
But as someone going into business currently, I can say that I have seen my new generation of business people, and I am proud. We are going to replace these asinine CEOs that are destroying businesses, shareholder value, and the economy. Trust me, we're all disgusted with it just as much as everyone else. It's not even about 'milking every quarter' or 'shortsightedness'. They're just BAD DECISION MAKERS, grandfathered in during rapidly changing economic times while nobody was quite sure what made a qualified CEO, or how to plan for long-term value. Turns out, the Internet changed alot of things, but the basics of business have not changed. Time to start hiring CEOs that aren't insane. | ||
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RodrigoX
United States645 Posts
On July 11 2010 02:26 Whiplash wrote: What an asshole... blizz should have merged with valve not activision! Awesomeness like that would most likely combust the universe. | ||
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Nub4ever
Canada1981 Posts
On July 11 2010 02:26 Whiplash wrote: What an asshole... blizz should have merged with valve not activision! THIS would be awesome :D | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
On July 11 2010 05:08 Judicator wrote: Blizz merging with Valve would be stupid on so many levels...neither would really gain anything and both would have to make some significant concessions. Seeing as battle.net 2.0 and steam are pretty much the exact same type of service (Except that bnet doesn't have a stand-alone client yet) - I agree with you. I just hope Steam doesn't decide to get scooped up by Activision themselves or some such thing. | ||
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Teddyman
Finland362 Posts
Ok enough offtopicness for now. | ||
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Airsick
United States134 Posts
On July 11 2010 02:40 Kennigit wrote: Not really. Usually when groups do that, one party just leaves and starts a new company. They could get a divorce? | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19268 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19268 Posts
On July 11 2010 05:24 Teddyman wrote: Same thing happened from CS 1.5 to 1.6 (though 1.6 is still pretty damn good), and even more horribly in CS 1.6 to CSS. And we don't talk about CZ.Everyone that is a Valve fanboy probably didn't play the original Team Fortress competitively and see the gameplay totally raped in TF2. Much worse than Blizzard could ever do with SC2. Of course they release some good shit like Portal and the HL series. Maybe it isn't that hard if you're releasing 6 hours of play worth of games every 3 years. Ok enough offtopicness for now. The point is that SC2 should be so much better than it is, what with it having been over a decade since the first already. | ||
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RA
Latvia791 Posts
Thing is I think from their, corporate, perspective it's just another product - they have no soul or entusiasm about it, only the goal which is profit and they are, apparently, obsessed with it as to go to such extremes. | ||
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UmmTheHobo
United States650 Posts
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