I have to write a little research paper / essay on new media (social networks and so on) and it occured to me after a recent pm conversation with a certain user that there is a trend in the clubbing/pick up scene (or generally when flirting) to rather exchange Facebook contacts than mobile numbers nowadays. On the one hand this interests me personally because I'd like to know if this observation is really true and what the figures are roughly, but I'd also like to use the results for my essay.
As Facebook is way more prevalent in the US than in other parts of the world (I guess almost everyone who fully wants to take part in social life in the US uses FB) I'll have one poll for North Americans only and another for the rest of the world (so you don't feel discriminated against )
I know there are some countries that don't have their own version of Facebook and thus it may be equally commonly used there (Germany has "StudiVZ" whereas Denmark uses Facebook mostly afaik) but I can't make a poll for X different countries.
I'm also assuming that we're talking about an age group of roughly 18-30 where this should apply.
Okay, please take part and also tell me your experiences / perception of this trend in the comments.
If you are in college, at a college bar, with all college kids then getting someone's Facebook seems acceptable. If you are 25 or older in a local bar with people from all over then it would be a little strange.
Asking for a girls number is more deliberate so that they know that you're interested in them. You can find almost anyones full name without letting them know you're interested.
To be fair, Facebook info isn't usually something that you ask for in the same way that you might ask for a number. But in my estimation someone will voluntarily give you their Facebook info before they give you their phone number these days if they're actually interested in knowing you.
On June 24 2010 02:21 GreEny K wrote: Hey hows it going, I'm Jeff. Jeff what? I wanna facebook you...
Wtf, that just doesn't sound right. I'd feel like a fool asking for a girls facebook info, numbers for sure.
You wouldn't get much success asking for someone's phone number right away like that either.
On June 24 2010 02:36 Gogleion wrote: Asking for a girls number is more deliberate so that they know that you're interested in them. You can find almost anyones full name without letting them know you're interested.
I think we're talking about deliberate exchanging of details. You can look someone up in the phone book too. But I think what you're getting at is that "can I have your number" is loaded language that makes your intentions obvious. It's a meme, I guess.
On June 24 2010 02:36 Gogleion wrote: Asking for a girls number is more deliberate so that they know that you're interested in them. You can find almost anyones full name without letting them know you're interested.
I think we're talking about deliberate exchanging of details. You can look someone up in the phone book too. But I think what you're getting at is that "can I have your number" is loaded language that makes your intentions obvious. It's a meme, I guess.
Hah you get my point though. Even at the end of a night out that just seems weird.
Maybe this will change in the next couple years but to me it just seems a bit odd to ask a girl for her FB. I think around here a lot of people would just ask for the name and kinda sneaky get the the last name so they can find that person later on facebook without really have asked. I know people that as soon as they have both names of a girl, like from a business call, they check her out on facebook. Weeeird..
I don't use Facetube and even if i did, even if i was like the worst Facetube-whore in world with a gazillion fake friends and a virtual network that extends from starvin' Marvin all the way into the West Wing, i still wouldn't want to meet a girl who uses it as her primary method of communication - even a fanatic user must realize how pathetic that is.
Note: i used to be a pioneer of this shit, i used a lot of the online services that everyone know and love today before there was any hype at all and at that point it was even kind of cool to have voice convos, real-time whiteboards, friends lists you could access from anywhere and shit, chatting and caming with girls was awesome 'cause at that time there existed a requirement of at least some basic computer literacy in order to use this stuff. But: during this period i was like 14-16, i was horny, young and stupid and communities were like the "new thing" and everyone checked out "rate me" picture sites and sites with party pictures 'cause it was new and fresh. Facetube is an excellent business model to profit from the guy i used to be and i would have used it no doubt, along with all my friends. Luckily though, i'm no longer him. Fuck him, fuck him for everything he did except for the stuff that made me turn out so f'ing awesome... Hey wait - allright, i don't mind it too much, but leave it to the kids yeah?
On June 24 2010 06:54 Thrill wrote: I don't use Facetube and even if i did, even if i was like the worst Facetube-whore in world with a gazillion fake friends and a virtual network that extends from starvin' Marvin all the way into the West Wing, i still wouldn't want to meet a girl who uses it as her primary method of communication - even a fanatic user must realize how pathetic that is.
Note: i used to be a pioneer of this shit, i used a lot of the online services that everyone know and love today before there was any hype at all and at that point it was even kind of cool to have voice convos, real-time whiteboards, friends lists you could access from anywhere and shit, chatting and caming with girls was awesome 'cause at that time there existed a requirement of at least some basic computer literacy in order to use this stuff. But: during this period i was like 14-16, i was horny, young and stupid and communities were like the "new thing" and everyone checked out "rate me" picture sites and sites with party pictures 'cause it was new and fresh. Facetube is an excellent business model to profit from the guy i used to be and i would have used it no doubt, along with all my friends. Luckily though, i'm no longer him. Fuck him, fuck him for everything he did except for the stuff that made me turn out so f'ing awesome... Hey wait - allright, i don't mind it too much, but leave it to the kids yeah?
Since I deleted my facebook, I must rely on my mobile device. And since I never turn my mobile device on, I must rely on snail mail. And since I don't have a car to buy stamps, I must rely on telepathy. And since I'm not very smart, I don't have a social life.
On June 24 2010 06:54 Thrill wrote: I don't use Facetube and even if i did, even if i was like the worst Facetube-whore in world with a gazillion fake friends and a virtual network that extends from starvin' Marvin all the way into the West Wing, i still wouldn't want to meet a girl who uses it as her primary method of communication - even a fanatic user must realize how pathetic that is.
Note: i used to be a pioneer of this shit, i used a lot of the online services that everyone know and love today before there was any hype at all and at that point it was even kind of cool to have voice convos, real-time whiteboards, friends lists you could access from anywhere and shit, chatting and caming with girls was awesome 'cause at that time there existed a requirement of at least some basic computer literacy in order to use this stuff. But: during this period i was like 14-16, i was horny, young and stupid and communities were like the "new thing" and everyone checked out "rate me" picture sites and sites with party pictures 'cause it was new and fresh. Facetube is an excellent business model to profit from the guy i used to be and i would have used it no doubt, along with all my friends. Luckily though, i'm no longer him. Fuck him, fuck him for everything he did except for the stuff that made me turn out so f'ing awesome... Hey wait - allright, i don't mind it too much, but leave it to the kids yeah?
What is your actual point?
He's saying the current generation of young people are seeking less and less direct forms of communication, as layers of protection against sincerity. You can pretend to be whoever you want when all you do is facebook and text someone. It gets harder to maintain the lie once you start actually calling people and communicating more directly. So someone who communicates almost exclusively through facebook is probably not very sincere, and you have almost no bearing as to who they really are.
thanks for the input so far, interesting to see the general tendency on this.
i posted a very similar thread on "theattractionforums" and the results are basically the same. i would have expected that if facebook is somewhat commonly used nowadays as a substitute for exchanging numbers (or even an improvement over it because you get many more infos about the person at once) then the people on this PUA forum would probably tell me / do it. isn't the case it seems. it's also ~ 85% who still go for the number.
one of the replies said that if someone uses FB rather than numbers he
has a specialized system that doesn't follow normal game and they are set up to make it work
another one emphasized that
They are two different things for different strategies. When I meet girls when I travel to different cities abroad, then a lot of the time there's no point me taking the number if I'm leaving the next day, unless I think I can get her out that night. I'll take the facebook and keep her on a slow burn, pinging her occasionally, in case I return to that country and want to hook up.
a reply in favor was:
I think overall it's better to get her facebook, especially if you have a good setup on facebook with nice pictures, friends etc. So if you have a great FB page then I'd say get her FB, if you don't then stick with the phone number
the general consensus seemed to be similar to here and is kind of summed up in this reply:
But you should always start much higher up the 'funnel' - go for the date first and try to sort out the logistics there and then, if not then go for the number, if not the number then go for the facebook. I would never shoot for a facebook first as you should always be trying to move things towards the bedroom asap. The number/facebook is only a tool to get her on a date with you, not the end game as a lot of guys seem to treat it.
so it seems to depend on your "technique"/the setting but generally the phone number still seems to be held of higher value than a facebook contact.
I have found that facebook is much less awkward and easier in general. The whole first phone call thing can just be avoided entirely. You just send them a message inviting them to do something, or just real time chat.
This also is much less confrontation to the chick, at least it seems so to me, so they often can dodge much easier without it being an issue, or even get to know you a bit without it being the pressure of making conversation.
On June 24 2010 22:00 Chill wrote: Numbers. Getting added on facebook is the equivalent of getting blown off. I didn't even know this was a strategy for some people.
For serious, if you can't make it to the phone you done, son.
Yeh it's a waste of time to try to worm your way in using facebook and shit, just go for the gusto and if you fail she didn't want it anyway, get away! Numbers only.
I heard the easiest way to get a girl is tell her she's like a big teddy bear that you just want to hug, and be her friend and gossip about boys with her for a few years and comment on all her Facebook photos until she's ready to date you.
On June 25 2010 02:54 Severedevil wrote: I heard the easiest way to get a girl is tell her she's like a big teddy bear that you just want to hug, and be her friend and gossip about boys with her for a few years and comment on all her Facebook photos until she's ready to date you.
On June 25 2010 02:39 maleorderbride wrote: I have found that facebook is much less awkward and easier in general. The whole first phone call thing can just be avoided entirely. You just send them a message inviting them to do something, or just real time chat.
I feel like I have to defend the rest of the 5 people who voted for facebook.
First and foremost there isn't really a step by step thing I follow when I go out. I just like to have fun, make love to the dance floor, celebrate something. Sometimes I'll ask for their facebook 5m inutes into the conversation other times 2 hours later when we've bounced to another club/karoke bar together. And other times I'll ask for the number or she'll ask for mine. It's highly situational.
Using facebook isn't about "not having the balls" to just go in for the kill. If you have the balls, then "let's get out of here", will always always trump numbers or facebook. I like to use facebook because it does a lot of the work for me, it's easy, it's very low pressure, I have an iphone and usually she has a BB, an iphone, or some other smart phone which allows her to keep in contact with me immediately. Here is how it usually goes. I ask for her facebook, sometimes she'll ask for my number "just to make sure". Sometimes, she doesn't contact me until the next or following days (Or I contact her later on and we'll set something up). Sometimes, she'll actually text me sometime during the night. She will get my number off my facebook profile.
That's one of the ways FB works for me. If a girl puts in the effort to actually find my number and contact me. That's what I prefer. That she makes the effort and I reward her for her effort rather than vice versa, like high fiving my buddies on the asses once I've "won" her phone number. FB's primary function for me though is it wings for me. I don't have to say shit about myself because my FB almost acts like a business card. There are pictures of me doing a lot of things, of places I've travelled to, me having fun with friends, my having an active social life; it has all my interests, and it has a lot of pretty girls writing on my wall and what not. The profile itself does all the bragging for me. It does all the winging.
In fact I'd say FB is a pretty apt analogy for the bar scene itself. If it's vacant and inactive and you add girls to it... You think they're gonna poke you, or message you or even comment on your wall? No. Well if other cool people, and hot chicks are doing it, then you think she's more likely to do so? Yes. It's highschool. And as we all know, highschool is life!
And yet another function FB serves is that I don't have to explain myself! Alot of the times, the girl will actually just bring up a topic someone posted on my wall, a picture of mine, a place i've been to, or an interest or whatever. "Hey warrior madness, when you went to LA did you go to Pinks? Is it true they have the best hotdogs in the world?". So, she'll probably know what my favourite colour is and my philosophy on life before I even know what her last name is. Of course you don't wanna give everything away. You don't want to be figured out so easily.
Lastly, of course you add girls only who are already interested in you or are DTF. I'd say FB is the superior method for consistent casual sex. If you go out a lot, and your facebook is made well, and you hit it off with a girl you can add her on for later. And you can build up quite a little pipeline of girls.
I could not imagine using facebook like that... Hi, can i have your facebook information? Jane Doe, ok now I'll friend request you tonight, can you accept my request when you get home? And then we can use facebook chat? Ok thank you byebye.
On June 25 2010 09:34 BDF92 wrote: I could not imagine using facebook like that... Hi, can i have your facebook information? Jane Doe, ok now I'll friend request you tonight, can you accept my request when you get home? And then we can use facebook chat? Ok thank you byebye.
When you put it that way it sounds weird. If you are awkward in the first place then I agree facebook is the wrong choice (you'll probably get a fake phone number as well.).
I think there's a big piece of info missing in yours and others assumptions. When I ask for a girls FB there's already comfort and trust in our interaction. It's as if we're already friends. When I add a girl, it's no BIG deal. I don't feel pressured to contact her, she doesn't feel pressured to contact me. During a highpoint I simply ask "What's your facebook?" She gives it to me. I add her on my iphone. She will have a smartphone (haven't met a girl who doesn't have a phone with some FB capabilites), she'll accept me right away. And if she doesn't chat me up, or text me during the night, then BECAUSE we've already built comfort and trust together, picking up convo where we left off, on FB chat/inbox is easy and effortless.
So just reword your quote. Presume we meet in a CLASSROOM rather than a club. We talk during the lecture, we have a few things in common, we have a few good laughs as well and I even introduce you to some of my friends in class. THEN I ask, "Hey, so what's your facebook?". See how much more natural and easy it is when that is considered?
On June 25 2010 02:39 maleorderbride wrote: I have found that facebook is much less awkward and easier in general. The whole first phone call thing can just be avoided entirely. You just send them a message inviting them to do something, or just real time chat.
Text messaging works when you get the number...
Yeah if there was no such thing as text messaging I would consider facebook, but I still don't know.
As far as I am concerned, phone numbers all the way.
Facebook is very impersonal compared to a phone conversation. I really think that exchanging phone numbers is a much better idea than facebook simply because facebook is a place where messages are left instead of a direct real time interaction. Additionally I find that lots of girls will instantly react in a negative fashion to a guy who asks for their facebook information because they perceive it as a less personal, or even a cop-out or "friend zone" type thing due to all of the awkward experiences they have had with guys adding them on facebook. Even if you aren't awkward facebook can make her think twice, but I would say that its a perfectly valid option if you do it right i.e. you have established some form of comfort or attraction already and present it in a non-chalant manner.
Also: PHONE CALLS BUILD ATTRACTION MORE THAN FACEBOOK.
Think about it. A situation where you've asked her to call you, or she is waiting for you to call builds that tension that we all love when it comes to interacting with the opposite (or same) sex. Once you get on the phone you can hear each others voices, which carry with them a massive amount of information. Saying "hey you" on facebook just means hey you. The same words on the phone if said in certain ways can instantly let her know that you mean business and are attracted to her and that the conversation is likely headed towards some kind of rendez-vu or sexual conversation. Then later on if you text her while she is at work or something she knows exactly what tone you are using when you say "hey you" or "hi there" again.
I also don't like to use facebook for people I don't already know well because it lacks privacy. I don't want every random girl I meet knowing who I know, where I work, the names of my family members etc. All it takes is one stalker/chemically imbalanced girl and you will regret giving out any facebook information. (I speak from experience).
On June 25 2010 10:58 Wr3k wrote: As far as I am concerned, phone numbers all the way.
Facebook is very impersonal compared to a phone conversation. I really think that exchanging phone numbers is a much better idea than facebook simply because facebook is a place where messages are left instead of a direct real time interaction. Additionally I find that lots of girls will instantly react in a negative fashion to a guy who asks for their facebook information because they perceive it as a less personal, or even a cop-out or "friend zone" type thing.
Also: PHONE CALLS BUILD ATTRACTION MORE THAN FACEBOOK.
See this is where our philosophy differs. Phone calls shouldn't be about building attraction... It should be for setting up logistics. For setting up the actual date. Initially, it should be short and simple and to the point on the phone. There should be attraction in the first place when you first meet.
That's why I like facebook. If anything facebook builds more attraction (If done right), because she sees all the other girls on your FB. All your pictures. All your extracurricular activities and she asks herself, "Whoa, who is this guy?". From my experience what girls remember most initially is social proof and your image (attractiveness, fitness, energy, style) etc. If a girl sees another girl acting lovey dovey with you even if it is just on your FB wall again it starts the train going, "Who is this guy??".
On June 25 2010 10:58 Wr3k wrote: As far as I am concerned, phone numbers all the way.
Facebook is very impersonal compared to a phone conversation. I really think that exchanging phone numbers is a much better idea than facebook simply because facebook is a place where messages are left instead of a direct real time interaction. Additionally I find that lots of girls will instantly react in a negative fashion to a guy who asks for their facebook information because they perceive it as a less personal, or even a cop-out or "friend zone" type thing.
Also: PHONE CALLS BUILD ATTRACTION MORE THAN FACEBOOK.
See this is where our philosophy differs. Phone calls shouldn't be about building attraction... It should be for setting up logistics. For setting up the actual date. There should be attraction in the first place when you first meet.
That's why I like facebook. If anything facebook builds more attraction (If done right), because she sees all the other girls on your FB. All your pictures. All your extracurricular activities and she asks herself, "Whoa, who is this guy?". From my experience what girls remember most initially is social proof and your image (attractiveness, fitness, energy, style) etc. If a girl sees another girl acting lovey dovey with you even if it is just on your FB wall again it starts the train going, "Who is this guy??".
Yeah, I suppose it really depends on how you do it. What you are saying about presenting yourself via facebook definitely has merit. Being able to provide a snapshot of who you are via facebook profile could definitely be a boon provided your facebook page represents you well and you actively use it. I can see myself giving out my facebook information as kind of a "this is me, check it out" kind of gesture, more than I can see myself using it to communicate.
I'm not saying phone calls "should be about" building attraction, obviously there should be attraction there in the first place, but I think that everything you do can build or take away from how attractive a woman (or man) perceives you to be. Hearing the voice of someone you already are attracted to is definitely more stimulating and interesting than facebook imo. I would rather be the attractive guy shes waiting for a call from than the attractive guy who shes investigating on facebook (perhaps because I'm not a huge fan of facebook and don't really use it much). I think there is alot of value in a good phone call. If you have established attraction and then on the phone are confident, interesting/fun to talk to, and you get to the point of arranging a date quickly you are definitely going to get some brownie points so to speak. That being said, it seems that you are calling her/him anyways to arrange a date like you mentioned, so perhaps you are just adept at taking advantage of all of your resources
I think it just boils down to your style. If you can make it work go for it.
You should make sure to adjust your numbers for how often these interactions end up in sex or a date. I'm sure people are giving out their facebook left and right but you are much more likely to fuck a girl with her phone number than her facebook. Facebook can be like those fake numbers girls give out.
On June 25 2010 08:25 Warrior Madness wrote: I feel like I have to defend the rest of the 5 people who voted for facebook.
First and foremost there isn't really a step by step thing I follow when I go out. I just like to have fun, make love to the dance floor, celebrate something. Sometimes I'll ask for their facebook 5m inutes into the conversation other times 2 hours later when we've bounced to another club/karoke bar together. And other times I'll ask for the number or she'll ask for mine. It's highly situational.
Using facebook isn't about "not having the balls" to just go in for the kill. If you have the balls, then "let's get out of here", will always always trump numbers or facebook. I like to use facebook because it does a lot of the work for me, it's easy, it's very low pressure, I have an iphone and usually she has a BB, an iphone, or some other smart phone which allows her to keep in contact with me immediately. Here is how it usually goes. I ask for her facebook, sometimes she'll ask for my number "just to make sure". Sometimes, she doesn't contact me until the next or following days (Or I contact her later on and we'll set something up). Sometimes, she'll actually text me sometime during the night. She will get my number off my facebook profile.
That's one of the ways FB works for me. If a girl puts in the effort to actually find my number and contact me. That's what I prefer. That she makes the effort and I reward her for her effort rather than vice versa, like high fiving my buddies on the asses once I've "won" her phone number. FB's primary function for me though is it wings for me. I don't have to say shit about myself because my FB almost acts like a business card. There are pictures of me doing a lot of things, of places I've travelled to, me having fun with friends, my having an active social life; it has all my interests, and it has a lot of pretty girls writing on my wall and what not. The profile itself does all the bragging for me. It does all the winging.
In fact I'd say FB is a pretty apt analogy for the bar scene itself. If it's vacant and inactive and you add girls to it... You think they're gonna poke you, or message you or even comment on your wall? No. Well if other cool people, and hot chicks are doing it, then you think she's more likely to do so? Yes. It's highschool. And as we all know, highschool is life!
And yet another function FB serves is that I don't have to explain myself! Alot of the times, the girl will actually just bring up a topic someone posted on my wall, a picture of mine, a place i've been to, or an interest or whatever. "Hey warrior madness, when you went to LA did you go to Pinks? Is it true they have the best hotdogs in the world?". So, she'll probably know what my favourite colour is and my philosophy on life before I even know what her last name is. Of course you don't wanna give everything away. You don't want to be figured out so easily.
Lastly, of course you add girls only who are already interested in you or are DTF. I'd say FB is the superior method for consistent casual sex. If you go out a lot, and your facebook is made well, and you hit it off with a girl you can add her on for later. And you can build up quite a little pipeline of girls.
give girls your fb if they like you theyll contact you
Exactly how many girls have you got with this time tested method bro
actually i got talking to a really hot girl in a club and we had a fucking awesome conversation, I thought she was into me and i was like uh can i get ur name for facebook. Anyway couldn't find her...it completely sucked. I eventually googled and found her on a different website and send her a message which she received but it's taken like 2 months to even meet up with her again :/. I could have just gotten her mobile number.
On June 25 2010 08:25 Warrior Madness wrote: I feel like I have to defend the rest of the 5 people who voted for facebook.
First and foremost there isn't really a step by step thing I follow when I go out. I just like to have fun, make love to the dance floor, celebrate something. Sometimes I'll ask for their facebook 5m inutes into the conversation other times 2 hours later when we've bounced to another club/karoke bar together. And other times I'll ask for the number or she'll ask for mine. It's highly situational.
Using facebook isn't about "not having the balls" to just go in for the kill. If you have the balls, then "let's get out of here", will always always trump numbers or facebook. I like to use facebook because it does a lot of the work for me, it's easy, it's very low pressure, I have an iphone and usually she has a BB, an iphone, or some other smart phone which allows her to keep in contact with me immediately. Here is how it usually goes. I ask for her facebook, sometimes she'll ask for my number "just to make sure". Sometimes, she doesn't contact me until the next or following days (Or I contact her later on and we'll set something up). Sometimes, she'll actually text me sometime during the night. She will get my number off my facebook profile.
That's one of the ways FB works for me. If a girl puts in the effort to actually find my number and contact me. That's what I prefer. That she makes the effort and I reward her for her effort rather than vice versa, like high fiving my buddies on the asses once I've "won" her phone number. FB's primary function for me though is it wings for me. I don't have to say shit about myself because my FB almost acts like a business card. There are pictures of me doing a lot of things, of places I've travelled to, me having fun with friends, my having an active social life; it has all my interests, and it has a lot of pretty girls writing on my wall and what not. The profile itself does all the bragging for me. It does all the winging.
In fact I'd say FB is a pretty apt analogy for the bar scene itself. If it's vacant and inactive and you add girls to it... You think they're gonna poke you, or message you or even comment on your wall? No. Well if other cool people, and hot chicks are doing it, then you think she's more likely to do so? Yes. It's highschool. And as we all know, highschool is life!
And yet another function FB serves is that I don't have to explain myself! Alot of the times, the girl will actually just bring up a topic someone posted on my wall, a picture of mine, a place i've been to, or an interest or whatever. "Hey warrior madness, when you went to LA did you go to Pinks? Is it true they have the best hotdogs in the world?". So, she'll probably know what my favourite colour is and my philosophy on life before I even know what her last name is. Of course you don't wanna give everything away. You don't want to be figured out so easily.
Lastly, of course you add girls only who are already interested in you or are DTF. I'd say FB is the superior method for consistent casual sex. If you go out a lot, and your facebook is made well, and you hit it off with a girl you can add her on for later. And you can build up quite a little pipeline of girls.
give girls your fb if they like you theyll contact you
Exactly how many girls have you got with this time tested method bro
Nice manner bro Mike. It works for me 9 out of 10 times. And thanks for twisting my words. That isn't the "method". Neither is using FB the method for that matter, anymore than you use your phone to attract girls. In the end it's inconsequential whether you use the phone or FB, it's only part of the small picture. But I think FB is better for the reasons I've already stated.
On June 25 2010 09:44 TaaiJoeng wrote: Exchanging numbers seems more formal and classy to me.
Yep. You should know her name afterward and be able to look her up on facebook anyhow, but probably shouldn't add her until you meet her again or if you exchange a good number of texts.
Numbers is better in most cases, but it really depends on the overall situation. I only go for a number if it's not even slightly uncomfortable. That's why it's a big deal to set another "date," even if it's only pretend, so you have a reason to get the number. Number is better because you can easily get her facebook over text, but it's harder to get a number over facebook.
If you think it might be awkward to get a number, you can suggest you should become facebook friends with her. Usually you can get her number from that point, but it might be more difficult. Wooooo!
Uh... both? I don't club but when I meet girls I usually get both. :| It's just become natural after you get their name for your cell that you find out their full name and get the FB add.
On June 29 2010 22:51 Kyuukyuu wrote: Uh... both? I don't club but when I meet girls I usually get both. :| It's just become natural after you get their name for your cell that you find out their full name and get the FB add.
This, generally both. Obviously number first then add her on FB later that night, next day, next week. Depending on how well you guys kick it off.
On June 25 2010 08:25 Warrior Madness wrote: I feel like I have to defend the rest of the 5 people who voted for facebook.
First and foremost there isn't really a step by step thing I follow when I go out. I just like to have fun, make love to the dance floor, celebrate something. Sometimes I'll ask for their facebook 5m inutes into the conversation other times 2 hours later when we've bounced to another club/karoke bar together. And other times I'll ask for the number or she'll ask for mine. It's highly situational.
Using facebook isn't about "not having the balls" to just go in for the kill. If you have the balls, then "let's get out of here", will always always trump numbers or facebook. I like to use facebook because it does a lot of the work for me, it's easy, it's very low pressure, I have an iphone and usually she has a BB, an iphone, or some other smart phone which allows her to keep in contact with me immediately. Here is how it usually goes. I ask for her facebook, sometimes she'll ask for my number "just to make sure". Sometimes, she doesn't contact me until the next or following days (Or I contact her later on and we'll set something up). Sometimes, she'll actually text me sometime during the night. She will get my number off my facebook profile.
That's one of the ways FB works for me. If a girl puts in the effort to actually find my number and contact me. That's what I prefer. That she makes the effort and I reward her for her effort rather than vice versa, like high fiving my buddies on the asses once I've "won" her phone number. FB's primary function for me though is it wings for me. I don't have to say shit about myself because my FB almost acts like a business card. There are pictures of me doing a lot of things, of places I've travelled to, me having fun with friends, my having an active social life; it has all my interests, and it has a lot of pretty girls writing on my wall and what not. The profile itself does all the bragging for me. It does all the winging.
In fact I'd say FB is a pretty apt analogy for the bar scene itself. If it's vacant and inactive and you add girls to it... You think they're gonna poke you, or message you or even comment on your wall? No. Well if other cool people, and hot chicks are doing it, then you think she's more likely to do so? Yes. It's highschool. And as we all know, highschool is life!
And yet another function FB serves is that I don't have to explain myself! Alot of the times, the girl will actually just bring up a topic someone posted on my wall, a picture of mine, a place i've been to, or an interest or whatever. "Hey warrior madness, when you went to LA did you go to Pinks? Is it true they have the best hotdogs in the world?". So, she'll probably know what my favourite colour is and my philosophy on life before I even know what her last name is. Of course you don't wanna give everything away. You don't want to be figured out so easily.
Lastly, of course you add girls only who are already interested in you or are DTF. I'd say FB is the superior method for consistent casual sex. If you go out a lot, and your facebook is made well, and you hit it off with a girl you can add her on for later. And you can build up quite a little pipeline of girls.
give girls your fb if they like you theyll contact you
Exactly how many girls have you got with this time tested method bro
Nice manner bro Mike. It works for me 9 out of 10 times. And thanks for twisting my words. That isn't the "method". Neither is using FB the method for that matter, anymore than you use your phone to attract girls. In the end it's inconsequential whether you use the phone or FB, it's only part of the small picture. But I think FB is better for the reasons I've already stated.
Where is this pipeline of girls you speak of?? I want to go to where you are. It seems to be the only place in the world where the girls chase you and the most work you have to do is upload a few photos. I might be in luck. I just broke 300 friends the other day!!
These girls, when you drop your full name on them at the club, do they immediately run to the bathroom to oogle over your facebook page?
On June 25 2010 08:25 Warrior Madness wrote: I feel like I have to defend the rest of the 5 people who voted for facebook.
First and foremost there isn't really a step by step thing I follow when I go out. I just like to have fun, make love to the dance floor, celebrate something. Sometimes I'll ask for their facebook 5m inutes into the conversation other times 2 hours later when we've bounced to another club/karoke bar together. And other times I'll ask for the number or she'll ask for mine. It's highly situational.
Using facebook isn't about "not having the balls" to just go in for the kill. If you have the balls, then "let's get out of here", will always always trump numbers or facebook. I like to use facebook because it does a lot of the work for me, it's easy, it's very low pressure, I have an iphone and usually she has a BB, an iphone, or some other smart phone which allows her to keep in contact with me immediately. Here is how it usually goes. I ask for her facebook, sometimes she'll ask for my number "just to make sure". Sometimes, she doesn't contact me until the next or following days (Or I contact her later on and we'll set something up). Sometimes, she'll actually text me sometime during the night. She will get my number off my facebook profile.
That's one of the ways FB works for me. If a girl puts in the effort to actually find my number and contact me. That's what I prefer. That she makes the effort and I reward her for her effort rather than vice versa, like high fiving my buddies on the asses once I've "won" her phone number. FB's primary function for me though is it wings for me. I don't have to say shit about myself because my FB almost acts like a business card. There are pictures of me doing a lot of things, of places I've travelled to, me having fun with friends, my having an active social life; it has all my interests, and it has a lot of pretty girls writing on my wall and what not. The profile itself does all the bragging for me. It does all the winging.
In fact I'd say FB is a pretty apt analogy for the bar scene itself. If it's vacant and inactive and you add girls to it... You think they're gonna poke you, or message you or even comment on your wall? No. Well if other cool people, and hot chicks are doing it, then you think she's more likely to do so? Yes. It's highschool. And as we all know, highschool is life!
And yet another function FB serves is that I don't have to explain myself! Alot of the times, the girl will actually just bring up a topic someone posted on my wall, a picture of mine, a place i've been to, or an interest or whatever. "Hey warrior madness, when you went to LA did you go to Pinks? Is it true they have the best hotdogs in the world?". So, she'll probably know what my favourite colour is and my philosophy on life before I even know what her last name is. Of course you don't wanna give everything away. You don't want to be figured out so easily.
Lastly, of course you add girls only who are already interested in you or are DTF. I'd say FB is the superior method for consistent casual sex. If you go out a lot, and your facebook is made well, and you hit it off with a girl you can add her on for later. And you can build up quite a little pipeline of girls.
give girls your fb if they like you theyll contact you
Exactly how many girls have you got with this time tested method bro
Nice manner bro Mike. It works for me 9 out of 10 times. And thanks for twisting my words. That isn't the "method". Neither is using FB the method for that matter, anymore than you use your phone to attract girls. In the end it's inconsequential whether you use the phone or FB, it's only part of the small picture. But I think FB is better for the reasons I've already stated.
Where is this pipeline of girls you speak of?? I want to go to where you are. It seems to be the only place in the world where the girls chase you and the most work you have to do is upload a few photos. I might be in luck. I just broke 300 friends the other day!!
These girls, when you drop your full name on them at the club, do they immediately run to the bathroom to oogle over your facebook page?
Wow what's your problem? Maybe he doesn't have your sarcastic attitude. That'd probably work for him.
Yeah i don't think people exchange facebook info, they add people the next day, you should really consider that for your research because i would think most people do that regardless of numbers, and also they often will do it with new friends they met not just a girl-guy pickup thing.
On June 24 2010 02:47 larjarse wrote: And if you need help gettin that number, just remember...
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please ask for numbers and not for facebooks. Or make her ask you.
I appreciate you are trying to help people. That's pretty kind of you. But it really rubs me up the wrong way listening to a 19yo endlessly promote himself. I'm sure you're competent with women, dating and flirting. And most people don't work it out till they are older, so well done. But no one has life completely worked out at your age. I think you should let that thread rest in peace.
Even if you were an amazing Casanova or held multiple degrees in psychology creating these 'Advice on Dating' threads is irritating. It comes across as boasting. And as LosingID8 and Hot_Bid said in this thread link there's an etiquette to boasting. I think the same rules apply for talking about your ability with women.
On June 25 2010 08:25 Warrior Madness wrote: I feel like I have to defend the rest of the 5 people who voted for facebook.
First and foremost there isn't really a step by step thing I follow when I go out. I just like to have fun, make love to the dance floor, celebrate something. Sometimes I'll ask for their facebook 5m inutes into the conversation other times 2 hours later when we've bounced to another club/karoke bar together. And other times I'll ask for the number or she'll ask for mine. It's highly situational.
Using facebook isn't about "not having the balls" to just go in for the kill. If you have the balls, then "let's get out of here", will always always trump numbers or facebook. I like to use facebook because it does a lot of the work for me, it's easy, it's very low pressure, I have an iphone and usually she has a BB, an iphone, or some other smart phone which allows her to keep in contact with me immediately. Here is how it usually goes. I ask for her facebook, sometimes she'll ask for my number "just to make sure". Sometimes, she doesn't contact me until the next or following days (Or I contact her later on and we'll set something up). Sometimes, she'll actually text me sometime during the night. She will get my number off my facebook profile.
That's one of the ways FB works for me. If a girl puts in the effort to actually find my number and contact me. That's what I prefer. That she makes the effort and I reward her for her effort rather than vice versa, like high fiving my buddies on the asses once I've "won" her phone number. FB's primary function for me though is it wings for me. I don't have to say shit about myself because my FB almost acts like a business card. There are pictures of me doing a lot of things, of places I've travelled to, me having fun with friends, my having an active social life; it has all my interests, and it has a lot of pretty girls writing on my wall and what not. The profile itself does all the bragging for me. It does all the winging.
In fact I'd say FB is a pretty apt analogy for the bar scene itself. If it's vacant and inactive and you add girls to it... You think they're gonna poke you, or message you or even comment on your wall? No. Well if other cool people, and hot chicks are doing it, then you think she's more likely to do so? Yes. It's highschool. And as we all know, highschool is life!
And yet another function FB serves is that I don't have to explain myself! Alot of the times, the girl will actually just bring up a topic someone posted on my wall, a picture of mine, a place i've been to, or an interest or whatever. "Hey warrior madness, when you went to LA did you go to Pinks? Is it true they have the best hotdogs in the world?". So, she'll probably know what my favourite colour is and my philosophy on life before I even know what her last name is. Of course you don't wanna give everything away. You don't want to be figured out so easily.
Lastly, of course you add girls only who are already interested in you or are DTF. I'd say FB is the superior method for consistent casual sex. If you go out a lot, and your facebook is made well, and you hit it off with a girl you can add her on for later. And you can build up quite a little pipeline of girls.
give girls your fb if they like you theyll contact you
Exactly how many girls have you got with this time tested method bro
Nice manner bro Mike. It works for me 9 out of 10 times. And thanks for twisting my words. That isn't the "method". Neither is using FB the method for that matter, anymore than you use your phone to attract girls. In the end it's inconsequential whether you use the phone or FB, it's only part of the small picture. But I think FB is better for the reasons I've already stated.
Where is this pipeline of girls you speak of?? I want to go to where you are. It seems to be the only place in the world where the girls chase you and the most work you have to do is upload a few photos. I might be in luck. I just broke 300 friends the other day!!
These girls, when you drop your full name on them at the club, do they immediately run to the bathroom to oogle over your facebook page?
Wow what's your problem? Maybe he doesn't have your sarcastic attitude. That'd probably work for him.
Oh ok. Please listen to the internet pimp/facebook Pick Up Artist. Maybe you can debate how many IOIs are in a girl's 12 word comment on his wall.
heaven forbid someone makes fun of the dude who wrote a post implied that he has a pipeline of girls because of facebook!
The whole point of the thread is to debate which is better, and I'm saying it's absurd that anyone would use fb
On June 25 2010 08:25 Warrior Madness wrote: I feel like I have to defend the rest of the 5 people who voted for facebook.
First and foremost there isn't really a step by step thing I follow when I go out. I just like to have fun, make love to the dance floor, celebrate something. Sometimes I'll ask for their facebook 5m inutes into the conversation other times 2 hours later when we've bounced to another club/karoke bar together. And other times I'll ask for the number or she'll ask for mine. It's highly situational.
Using facebook isn't about "not having the balls" to just go in for the kill. If you have the balls, then "let's get out of here", will always always trump numbers or facebook. I like to use facebook because it does a lot of the work for me, it's easy, it's very low pressure, I have an iphone and usually she has a BB, an iphone, or some other smart phone which allows her to keep in contact with me immediately. Here is how it usually goes. I ask for her facebook, sometimes she'll ask for my number "just to make sure". Sometimes, she doesn't contact me until the next or following days (Or I contact her later on and we'll set something up). Sometimes, she'll actually text me sometime during the night. She will get my number off my facebook profile.
That's one of the ways FB works for me. If a girl puts in the effort to actually find my number and contact me. That's what I prefer. That she makes the effort and I reward her for her effort rather than vice versa, like high fiving my buddies on the asses once I've "won" her phone number. FB's primary function for me though is it wings for me. I don't have to say shit about myself because my FB almost acts like a business card. There are pictures of me doing a lot of things, of places I've travelled to, me having fun with friends, my having an active social life; it has all my interests, and it has a lot of pretty girls writing on my wall and what not. The profile itself does all the bragging for me. It does all the winging.
In fact I'd say FB is a pretty apt analogy for the bar scene itself. If it's vacant and inactive and you add girls to it... You think they're gonna poke you, or message you or even comment on your wall? No. Well if other cool people, and hot chicks are doing it, then you think she's more likely to do so? Yes. It's highschool. And as we all know, highschool is life!
And yet another function FB serves is that I don't have to explain myself! Alot of the times, the girl will actually just bring up a topic someone posted on my wall, a picture of mine, a place i've been to, or an interest or whatever. "Hey warrior madness, when you went to LA did you go to Pinks? Is it true they have the best hotdogs in the world?". So, she'll probably know what my favourite colour is and my philosophy on life before I even know what her last name is. Of course you don't wanna give everything away. You don't want to be figured out so easily.
Lastly, of course you add girls only who are already interested in you or are DTF. I'd say FB is the superior method for consistent casual sex. If you go out a lot, and your facebook is made well, and you hit it off with a girl you can add her on for later. And you can build up quite a little pipeline of girls.
give girls your fb if they like you theyll contact you
Exactly how many girls have you got with this time tested method bro
Nice manner bro Mike. It works for me 9 out of 10 times. And thanks for twisting my words. That isn't the "method". Neither is using FB the method for that matter, anymore than you use your phone to attract girls. In the end it's inconsequential whether you use the phone or FB, it's only part of the small picture. But I think FB is better for the reasons I've already stated.
Where is this pipeline of girls you speak of?? I want to go to where you are. It seems to be the only place in the world where the girls chase you and the most work you have to do is upload a few photos. I might be in luck. I just broke 300 friends the other day!!
These girls, when you drop your full name on them at the club, do they immediately run to the bathroom to oogle over your facebook page?
Wow what's your problem? Maybe he doesn't have your sarcastic attitude. That'd probably work for him.
Oh ok. Please listen to the internet pimp/facebook Pick Up Artist. Maybe you can debate how many IOIs are in a girl's 12 word comment on his wall.
heaven forbid someone makes fun of the dude who wrote a post implied that he has a pipeline of girls because of facebook!
The whole point of the thread is to debate which is better, and I'm saying it's absurd that anyone would use fb
I think you should have let it slide. It was pretty minor compared to some of the brags people post on here. It's fine to say you think fb is absurd in this situation. Just give the guy a break.
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