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Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
May 31 2010 12:40 GMT
#141
This must have been a logistical nightmare for Israel in terms of storming the ship I don't see why they didn't wait for the flotilla to enter Israeli waters the board the ships. It was stupid of the flotilla to try and go through the naval blockade which has been put there for a reason. Surely with enough public pressure the humanitarian aid would have been transported from Ashdod to Gaza or maybe without, we will never know.

Both sides are at fault here, I just hope that when the official reports come out that they are truthful and not dig a deeper hole for Israel.
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
May 31 2010 12:41 GMT
#142
On May 31 2010 15:11 evanthebouncy! wrote:
never liked isreal... that country would be nothing if America doesn't back it up.


Same as Kuweit. Some countries really piss me off because Israel shouldn't even exist if it wasn't the UK and the USA. People living in Palestine for thousands of years and then some assholes decide to divide their country into bits, take your most important city, and make a new countries. What's funny about this is that most people see Israel as the good guys... Sigh.
zvz is imba
beetlejuice
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey68 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 21:42:56
May 31 2010 12:44 GMT
#143
I'm a ghost with the most, babe.
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
May 31 2010 12:48 GMT
#144
On May 31 2010 21:36 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 20:58 Masamune wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:29 BlackJack wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:09 BG1 wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:55 beetlejuice wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:49 BG1 wrote:
If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.



did you just read last 10 comments and didnt watch news?

how stupid can ppl be?

why do you think all this rage about?

If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.

I know the answer,

EHM... THEY DID?

you keep on living in your dream world.


also that's international territory water.
other than this humanity crime. Israel commited an international crime.



You're telling me they just shot the people for fun... Knowing full well the law, the international consequences and the media backlash and you're telling me to stop living in a dream world??? haha
Oh and yes I wasn't there but you guys obviously were...


right, that would never happen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Miller_(filmmaker)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/nov/24/israel
"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."

wow wtf.

Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) who was killed by a bulldozer operated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) while attempting to prevent IDF forces from demolishing the home of local Palestinian pharmacist Samir Nasrallah.

Apparently she was smashed against the wall of the home and the bulldozer... fucking disgusting.

BG1 are you Jewish? That would explain a lot, as it does with HnR)hT.


You should've read the rest of the wikipedia article.

While in Gaza, she took part in a demonstration as part of the February 15, 2003 anti-war protest against the invasion of Iraq, where she was photographed burning a mock US flag.[5][9] Robert Spencer criticized Corrie for having burned the flag in front of children, writing that she was “fostering... hatred” of the United States.[10]


Just shows what kind of people get heroised nowadays.


Yes, let's ram a bulldozer into anyone who burns a flag of the right and just ones. Flag burning of US/Israel must be punished by ramming a bulldozer into someone! They are good states, unlike evil world that provokes them!
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
Smu
Profile Joined July 2009
Serbia164 Posts
May 31 2010 12:48 GMT
#145
On May 31 2010 15:17 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 15:13 illu wrote:
Are we going to compare Israel with North Korea?


Both with huge army? Yes
Both with nukes? Yes
Both like to sink ships? Yes
Both with great power behind their back? Yes

But Israel is on the Good side and North Korea is part of the axis of evil.


And this is a quality poster?

Mind backing up your ingenious dichotomy ?
Take us into orbit Mr. Malmsteen. We've seen enough.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
May 31 2010 12:50 GMT
#146
thats not quality posting, thats him kidding, not hard to see I think.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 12:52:21
May 31 2010 12:51 GMT
#147
On May 31 2010 21:41 WeSt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 15:11 evanthebouncy! wrote:
never liked isreal... that country would be nothing if America doesn't back it up.


Same as Kuweit. Some countries really piss me off because Israel shouldn't even exist if it wasn't the UK and the USA. People living in Palestine for thousands of years and then some assholes decide to divide their country into bits, take your most important city, and make a new countries. What's funny about this is that most people see Israel as the good guys... Sigh.


Yeah right..
Educate yourself on the region that is Israel/Palestine nowdays. It has never belonged to anyone (for long lol). Btw, I'm not siding with anyone here, in my opinion people should just stop caring about this shithole because it's certainly not worth the effort and attention it's getting since the jews got settled there. But as lefties and latent commies get outraged by this so much it's always fun to watch the hate stir up.

On May 31 2010 21:48 Pika Chu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 21:36 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:58 Masamune wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:29 BlackJack wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:09 BG1 wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:55 beetlejuice wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:49 BG1 wrote:
If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.



did you just read last 10 comments and didnt watch news?

how stupid can ppl be?

why do you think all this rage about?

If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.

I know the answer,

EHM... THEY DID?

you keep on living in your dream world.


also that's international territory water.
other than this humanity crime. Israel commited an international crime.



You're telling me they just shot the people for fun... Knowing full well the law, the international consequences and the media backlash and you're telling me to stop living in a dream world??? haha
Oh and yes I wasn't there but you guys obviously were...


right, that would never happen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Miller_(filmmaker)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/nov/24/israel
"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."

wow wtf.

Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) who was killed by a bulldozer operated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) while attempting to prevent IDF forces from demolishing the home of local Palestinian pharmacist Samir Nasrallah.

Apparently she was smashed against the wall of the home and the bulldozer... fucking disgusting.

BG1 are you Jewish? That would explain a lot, as it does with HnR)hT.


You should've read the rest of the wikipedia article.

While in Gaza, she took part in a demonstration as part of the February 15, 2003 anti-war protest against the invasion of Iraq, where she was photographed burning a mock US flag.[5][9] Robert Spencer criticized Corrie for having burned the flag in front of children, writing that she was “fostering... hatred” of the United States.[10]


Just shows what kind of people get heroised nowadays.


Yes, let's ram a bulldozer into anyone who burns a flag of the right and just ones. Flag burning of US/Israel must be punished by ramming a bulldozer into someone! They are good states, unlike evil world that provokes them!


Maybe you don't believe it, but radical martyrdom isn't exclusive to muslims.
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
May 31 2010 12:53 GMT
#148
Sarcasm tends to take over the minds of others when it comes to threads like this.

But seriously,why does Israel always attack for no apparent reason.they're should be a much more civilized way to solve all of their problems.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
May 31 2010 12:55 GMT
#149
On May 31 2010 21:51 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 21:41 WeSt wrote:
On May 31 2010 15:11 evanthebouncy! wrote:
never liked isreal... that country would be nothing if America doesn't back it up.


Same as Kuweit. Some countries really piss me off because Israel shouldn't even exist if it wasn't the UK and the USA. People living in Palestine for thousands of years and then some assholes decide to divide their country into bits, take your most important city, and make a new countries. What's funny about this is that most people see Israel as the good guys... Sigh.


Yeah right..
Educate yourself on the region that is Israel/Palestine nowdays. It has never belonged to anyone (for long lol). Btw, I'm not siding with anyone here, in my opinion people should just stop caring about this shithole because it's certainly not worth the effort and attention it's getting since the jews got settled there. But as lefties and latent commies get outraged by this so much it's always fun to watch the hate stir up.

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 21:48 Pika Chu wrote:
On May 31 2010 21:36 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:58 Masamune wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:29 BlackJack wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:09 BG1 wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:55 beetlejuice wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:49 BG1 wrote:
If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.



did you just read last 10 comments and didnt watch news?

how stupid can ppl be?

why do you think all this rage about?

If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.

I know the answer,

EHM... THEY DID?

you keep on living in your dream world.


also that's international territory water.
other than this humanity crime. Israel commited an international crime.



You're telling me they just shot the people for fun... Knowing full well the law, the international consequences and the media backlash and you're telling me to stop living in a dream world??? haha
Oh and yes I wasn't there but you guys obviously were...


right, that would never happen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Miller_(filmmaker)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/nov/24/israel
"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."

wow wtf.

Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) who was killed by a bulldozer operated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) while attempting to prevent IDF forces from demolishing the home of local Palestinian pharmacist Samir Nasrallah.

Apparently she was smashed against the wall of the home and the bulldozer... fucking disgusting.

BG1 are you Jewish? That would explain a lot, as it does with HnR)hT.


You should've read the rest of the wikipedia article.

While in Gaza, she took part in a demonstration as part of the February 15, 2003 anti-war protest against the invasion of Iraq, where she was photographed burning a mock US flag.[5][9] Robert Spencer criticized Corrie for having burned the flag in front of children, writing that she was “fostering... hatred” of the United States.[10]


Just shows what kind of people get heroised nowadays.


Yes, let's ram a bulldozer into anyone who burns a flag of the right and just ones. Flag burning of US/Israel must be punished by ramming a bulldozer into someone! They are good states, unlike evil world that provokes them!


Maybe you don't believe it, but radical martyrdom isn't exclusive to muslims.


Really? So building a barricade to separate countries is the best choice? Quite ironic you are German (no offense) you should know that walls aren't really good.
zvz is imba
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
May 31 2010 12:58 GMT
#150
On May 31 2010 21:44 beetlejuice wrote:
if two side had fault in this.

Israeli beat the other by killing civilians.

period.

I am really shocked because of some comments justifying Israel,
"yeah they had the right to kill civilians because the other party entered the blockade (which is yet illegal)"

I am just... shocked... how ppl appreciate it very normal.


Yes. It's usually the civilians that take the brunt of the blow. They just want to to live, just like us. Ordinary people caught in violence.
I post only when my brain works.
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
May 31 2010 12:59 GMT
#151
On May 31 2010 21:55 WeSt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 21:51 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
On May 31 2010 21:41 WeSt wrote:
On May 31 2010 15:11 evanthebouncy! wrote:
never liked isreal... that country would be nothing if America doesn't back it up.


Same as Kuweit. Some countries really piss me off because Israel shouldn't even exist if it wasn't the UK and the USA. People living in Palestine for thousands of years and then some assholes decide to divide their country into bits, take your most important city, and make a new countries. What's funny about this is that most people see Israel as the good guys... Sigh.


Yeah right..
Educate yourself on the region that is Israel/Palestine nowdays. It has never belonged to anyone (for long lol). Btw, I'm not siding with anyone here, in my opinion people should just stop caring about this shithole because it's certainly not worth the effort and attention it's getting since the jews got settled there. But as lefties and latent commies get outraged by this so much it's always fun to watch the hate stir up.

On May 31 2010 21:48 Pika Chu wrote:
On May 31 2010 21:36 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:58 Masamune wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:29 BlackJack wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:09 BG1 wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:55 beetlejuice wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:49 BG1 wrote:
If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.



did you just read last 10 comments and didnt watch news?

how stupid can ppl be?

why do you think all this rage about?

If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.

I know the answer,

EHM... THEY DID?

you keep on living in your dream world.


also that's international territory water.
other than this humanity crime. Israel commited an international crime.



You're telling me they just shot the people for fun... Knowing full well the law, the international consequences and the media backlash and you're telling me to stop living in a dream world??? haha
Oh and yes I wasn't there but you guys obviously were...


right, that would never happen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Miller_(filmmaker)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/nov/24/israel
"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."

wow wtf.

Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) who was killed by a bulldozer operated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) while attempting to prevent IDF forces from demolishing the home of local Palestinian pharmacist Samir Nasrallah.

Apparently she was smashed against the wall of the home and the bulldozer... fucking disgusting.

BG1 are you Jewish? That would explain a lot, as it does with HnR)hT.


You should've read the rest of the wikipedia article.

While in Gaza, she took part in a demonstration as part of the February 15, 2003 anti-war protest against the invasion of Iraq, where she was photographed burning a mock US flag.[5][9] Robert Spencer criticized Corrie for having burned the flag in front of children, writing that she was “fostering... hatred” of the United States.[10]


Just shows what kind of people get heroised nowadays.


Yes, let's ram a bulldozer into anyone who burns a flag of the right and just ones. Flag burning of US/Israel must be punished by ramming a bulldozer into someone! They are good states, unlike evil world that provokes them!


Maybe you don't believe it, but radical martyrdom isn't exclusive to muslims.


Really? So building a barricade to separate countries is the best choice? Quite ironic you are German (no offense) you should know that walls aren't really good.


Many Eastern Germans believe the wall should've been left there, so do many Western Germans. No offense.
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
May 31 2010 13:03 GMT
#152
On May 31 2010 21:36 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 20:58 Masamune wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:29 BlackJack wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:09 BG1 wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:55 beetlejuice wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:49 BG1 wrote:
If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.



did you just read last 10 comments and didnt watch news?

how stupid can ppl be?

why do you think all this rage about?

If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.

I know the answer,

EHM... THEY DID?

you keep on living in your dream world.


also that's international territory water.
other than this humanity crime. Israel commited an international crime.



You're telling me they just shot the people for fun... Knowing full well the law, the international consequences and the media backlash and you're telling me to stop living in a dream world??? haha
Oh and yes I wasn't there but you guys obviously were...


right, that would never happen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Miller_(filmmaker)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/nov/24/israel
"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."

wow wtf.

Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) who was killed by a bulldozer operated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) while attempting to prevent IDF forces from demolishing the home of local Palestinian pharmacist Samir Nasrallah.

Apparently she was smashed against the wall of the home and the bulldozer... fucking disgusting.

BG1 are you Jewish? That would explain a lot, as it does with HnR)hT.


You should've read the rest of the wikipedia article.

While in Gaza, she took part in a demonstration as part of the February 15, 2003 anti-war protest against the invasion of Iraq, where she was photographed burning a mock US flag.[5][9] Robert Spencer criticized Corrie for having burned the flag in front of children, writing that she was “fostering... hatred” of the United States.[10]


Just shows what kind of people get heroised nowadays.

Oh I did read the article, I just wanted to support BlackJack's point and reiterate the main crux of the post. I would have quoted the whole article if I could, but no one would read it otherwise.

You conveniently forgot to post the rest of the little part you nitpicked, so I'll do it for you:

"Trying to use this picture to somehow indicate that Rachel deserved to be run over by a bulldozer is an appalling act of demonization that infers that forms of protest which include flag burning are capital offences. In the words of Rachel's parents: 'The act, while we may disagree with it, must be put into context. Rachel was partaking in a demonstration in Gaza opposing the War on Iraq. She was working with children who drew two pictures, one of the American flag, and one of the Israeli flag, for burning. Rachel said that she could not bring herself to burn the picture of the Israeli flag with the Star of David on it, but under such circumstances, in protest over a drive towards war and her government's foreign policy that was responsible for much of the devastation that she was witness to in Gaza, she felt it OK to burn the picture of her own flag. We have seen photographs of memorials held in Gaza after Rachel's death in which Palestinian children and adults honor our daughter by carrying a mock coffin draped with the American flag. We have been told that our flag has never been treated so respectfully in Gaza in recent years. We believe Rachel brought a different face of the United States to the Palestinian people, a face of compassion. It is this image of Rachel with the American flag that we hope will be remembered most.'"[11]

Now kindly gtfo.

btw, I advise people to read the whole wikipedia entry on this lady; it's quite astounding.
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
May 31 2010 13:07 GMT
#153
On May 31 2010 22:03 Masamune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 21:36 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:58 Masamune wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:29 BlackJack wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:09 BG1 wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:55 beetlejuice wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:49 BG1 wrote:
If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.



did you just read last 10 comments and didnt watch news?

how stupid can ppl be?

why do you think all this rage about?

If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.

I know the answer,

EHM... THEY DID?

you keep on living in your dream world.


also that's international territory water.
other than this humanity crime. Israel commited an international crime.



You're telling me they just shot the people for fun... Knowing full well the law, the international consequences and the media backlash and you're telling me to stop living in a dream world??? haha
Oh and yes I wasn't there but you guys obviously were...


right, that would never happen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Miller_(filmmaker)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/nov/24/israel
"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."

wow wtf.

Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) who was killed by a bulldozer operated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) while attempting to prevent IDF forces from demolishing the home of local Palestinian pharmacist Samir Nasrallah.

Apparently she was smashed against the wall of the home and the bulldozer... fucking disgusting.

BG1 are you Jewish? That would explain a lot, as it does with HnR)hT.


You should've read the rest of the wikipedia article.

While in Gaza, she took part in a demonstration as part of the February 15, 2003 anti-war protest against the invasion of Iraq, where she was photographed burning a mock US flag.[5][9] Robert Spencer criticized Corrie for having burned the flag in front of children, writing that she was “fostering... hatred” of the United States.[10]


Just shows what kind of people get heroised nowadays.

Oh I did read the article, I just wanted to support BlackJack's point and reiterate the main crux of the post. I would have quoted the whole article if I could, but no one would read it otherwise.

You conveniently forgot to post the rest of the little part you nitpicked, so I'll do it for you:

"Trying to use this picture to somehow indicate that Rachel deserved to be run over by a bulldozer is an appalling act of demonization that infers that forms of protest which include flag burning are capital offences. In the words of Rachel's parents: 'The act, while we may disagree with it, must be put into context. Rachel was partaking in a demonstration in Gaza opposing the War on Iraq. She was working with children who drew two pictures, one of the American flag, and one of the Israeli flag, for burning. Rachel said that she could not bring herself to burn the picture of the Israeli flag with the Star of David on it, but under such circumstances, in protest over a drive towards war and her government's foreign policy that was responsible for much of the devastation that she was witness to in Gaza, she felt it OK to burn the picture of her own flag. We have seen photographs of memorials held in Gaza after Rachel's death in which Palestinian children and adults honor our daughter by carrying a mock coffin draped with the American flag. We have been told that our flag has never been treated so respectfully in Gaza in recent years. We believe Rachel brought a different face of the United States to the Palestinian people, a face of compassion. It is this image of Rachel with the American flag that we hope will be remembered most.'"[11]

Now kindly gtfo.

btw, I advise people to read the whole wikipedia entry on this lady; it's quite astounding.


I'm sorry I didn't adress it directly to you, but I will correct this mistake:
Martyrdom isn't exclusive to muslims.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
May 31 2010 13:08 GMT
#154
On May 31 2010 21:51 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Educate yourself on the region that is Israel/Palestine nowdays. It has never belonged to anyone (for long lol). Btw, I'm not siding with anyone here, in my opinion people should just stop caring about this shithole because it's certainly not worth the effort and attention it's getting since the jews got settled there. But as lefties and latent commies get outraged by this so much it's always fun to watch the hate stir up.


Never belonged to anyone? So no one fought a Civil War? So all the people interviewed on Joe Sacco's (American Book Award-winning) Palestine are lying?

...

Better stop before a flame war engulfs this thread.
Autofire2
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Pakistan290 Posts
May 31 2010 13:10 GMT
#155
Sorry, was someone suggesting that a woman who burns a flag (a piece of cloth, however, sacred some people hold it...isn't that what the whole "freedom of expression" thing is about these days? With the facebook controversy?) deserved to be brutally killed? Or that we should demonize her for that and be less horrified at her death?
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 13:16:06
May 31 2010 13:15 GMT
#156
On May 31 2010 21:36 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 20:58 Masamune wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:29 BlackJack wrote:
On May 31 2010 20:09 BG1 wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:55 beetlejuice wrote:
On May 31 2010 19:49 BG1 wrote:
If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.



did you just read last 10 comments and didnt watch news?

how stupid can ppl be?

why do you think all this rage about?

If those "doctors, writers and politicians" remained civil there would be no reason for anyone to get shot... The Israelis didn't just whip out their guns and decide to shoot people for fun.

I know the answer,

EHM... THEY DID?

you keep on living in your dream world.


also that's international territory water.
other than this humanity crime. Israel commited an international crime.



You're telling me they just shot the people for fun... Knowing full well the law, the international consequences and the media backlash and you're telling me to stop living in a dream world??? haha
Oh and yes I wasn't there but you guys obviously were...


right, that would never happen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Miller_(filmmaker)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/nov/24/israel
"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."

wow wtf.

Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) who was killed by a bulldozer operated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) while attempting to prevent IDF forces from demolishing the home of local Palestinian pharmacist Samir Nasrallah.

Apparently she was smashed against the wall of the home and the bulldozer... fucking disgusting.

BG1 are you Jewish? That would explain a lot, as it does with HnR)hT.


You should've read the rest of the wikipedia article.

While in Gaza, she took part in a demonstration as part of the February 15, 2003 anti-war protest against the invasion of Iraq, where she was photographed burning a mock US flag.[5][9] Robert Spencer criticized Corrie for having burned the flag in front of children, writing that she was “fostering... hatred” of the United States.[10]


Just shows what kind of people get heroised nowadays.


Way to cherrypick an example, ignorance like this is sad.

What kind of world do we live in where somebody taking part in a political protest is a horrible human being?
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
May 31 2010 13:22 GMT
#157
The Israeli response was disproportionate but they had fair warning and shouldn't have been sailing to Gaza in the first place...
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[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
May 31 2010 13:22 GMT
#158
I won't make the mistake of arguing against the army of leftists naturally flooding threads like this, so this will be my last post in here.
Where exactly was I saying she'd be a horrible human being or that she even deserved what happened to her? I just said she provoked it, she was very well aware of what could happen and that she is a martyr. A person, trying to make a point by getting themselves killed while making her killers look as bad as possible at the same time. Why would any reasonable humanbeing support such acts of selfishness and irrationalism?
Doesn't this resemble perfectly how the actual topic of this thread is being perceived? Super-altruistic people try to get aid into Gaza while completely ignoring all the warnings the Israeli navy gave off before. Everything happens exactly as predicted, navy boards their ships, super-altruistic people attack armed soldiers who are trained to kill. People get shot. Tell everyone Israel is bad. GG.
beetlejuice
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey68 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 21:43:15
May 31 2010 13:26 GMT
#159
I'm a ghost with the most, babe.
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
May 31 2010 13:27 GMT
#160
On May 31 2010 15:11 evanthebouncy! wrote:
never liked isreal... that country would be nothing if America doesn't back it up.


United states is NOT America. Just for the record.
On May 31 2010 16:08 ilbh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 15:19 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 31 2010 15:17 T.O.P. wrote:
On May 31 2010 15:13 illu wrote:
Are we going to compare Israel with North Korea?


Both with huge army? Yes
Both with nukes? Yes
Both like to sink ships? Yes
Both with great power behind their back? Yes

But Israel is on the Good side and North Korea is part of the axis of evil.


lol


I wonder why you lol'ed...


I lold too. there is nothing good about israel, and nothing bad about N.Korea. When would you people learn that right and wrong are subjective things. For me israel is a saddistic country, where everyone is military trained (that is something I hate in the first place, fuck the army) and abuse their economic advantage to the palestinian. But that is just my opinion, there is no thing as "good side", thats a childish thing.



On May 31 2010 16:25 Gnaix wrote:
When did the Jews get so fucking violent? Oh wait, that's because we gave them weapons and they started pwning all of the middle east...


I do believe it was sometime near 3000 BC, or was it 5000 BC?
unevolved culture and religion, needs to cease in existence right now, with the other major obsolete religions like christianity, muslim, etc.




Hope this doesnt pass without any noise. So sad thing. Fuck israel, nothing personal, just hate people abusing their power.
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