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On April 06 2010 04:47 FortuneSyn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:41 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ohmygod. -_- are you serious? first of all . "All americans should be ashamed of this shit" you're judging a large group of people because of the action of a few? Like saying all germans are nazi's. secondly, ITS A WAR. honestly if i were in uniform standing guard, and there was a person with a object THAT LOOKS LIKE A GUN i'd be scared shitless. They did what was expected of them. Of course it lead to unexpected deaths but if they hadnt and it had been enemies they would have been the ones who had died Cut the fucking "I am me, he is him" argument. You are an american (lets assume you are). that was an american army shooting fucking civilians. they represent your fucking country. they represent you. im gonna call you out, and say you are a piece of shit. You don't get to have your leaders kill innocents, and not a be part of the blame. Just like your fucking army generalizes terrorists and shoots them just in case, I'm gonna generalize americans, and say you did it and support it. If you want that to change, then go do something about it.
.... you are going to call me out.. and call me a peice of shit because a soldier killed somebody.
ME? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
SERIOUSLY?
Please don't post in this thread, that's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard in my life.
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On April 06 2010 04:47 FortuneSyn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:41 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ohmygod. -_- are you serious? first of all . "All americans should be ashamed of this shit" you're judging a large group of people because of the action of a few? Like saying all germans are nazi's. secondly, ITS A WAR. honestly if i were in uniform standing guard, and there was a person with a object THAT LOOKS LIKE A GUN i'd be scared shitless. They did what was expected of them. Of course it lead to unexpected deaths but if they hadnt and it had been enemies they would have been the ones who had died Cut the fucking "I am me, he is him" argument. You are an american (lets assume you are). that was an american army shooting fucking civilians. they represent your fucking country. they represent you. im gonna call you out, and say you are a piece of shit. You don't get to have your leaders kill innocents, and not a be part of the blame. Just like your fucking army generalizes terrorists and shoots them just in case, I'm gonna generalize americans, and say you did it and support it. If you want that to change, then go do something about it.
Er that's really off. It's a democracy. Sometimes the party or leader you don't want gets in. And they do things like invade Iraq. I didn't support australia's invasion and I'm sure there are plenty of americans who aren't happy with everything Bush did or Obama is doing now. You can't group the entire nation and say it's responsible for everything it's government has ever done. Leave americans alone. Seriously, the second most annoying thing in this thread is ppl bashing americans generally. Dislike the policy or the government, not the people.
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On April 06 2010 04:50 FortuneSyn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:45 Mystlord wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ??? Did you watch the video? On April 06 2010 02:56 BlackJack wrote:I'm pretty sure those are weapons. In case it's not obvious, they are just as readily going to kill 4 guys with AKs as they are 2 guys with AKs and 2 guys with cameras. Quoting it again. Where's the excuse for americans shooting at the van that was helping the wounded?
it's an unmarked van, not a medic or an ambulance. Big difference.
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On April 06 2010 04:48 DreaM)XeRO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:45 Zoler wrote:On April 06 2010 04:41 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ohmygod. -_- are you serious? first of all . "All americans should be ashamed of this shit" you're judging a large group of people because of the action of a few? Like saying all germans are nazi's. secondly, ITS A WAR. honestly if i were in uniform standing guard, and there was a person with a object THAT LOOKS LIKE A GUN i'd be scared shitless. They did what was expected of them. Of course it lead to unexpected deaths but if they hadnt and it had been enemies they would have been the ones who had died No, it's not a war. It's a slaughter. Also if you can't afford goddamn binoculars or something maybe you shouldn't play god with peoples lives. oh really. its a slaugher. so american soldiers are waltzing into iraq with big guns shooting everyone they see? you're an idiot . This stirs uproar because if affects our moral sense of right and wrong. If this happens on a daily basis as you seem to be suggesting dont you think we'd do something about it?
Yeah, it's totally a war my bad. While USA advanced against Baghdad they took massive artillery fire and lost hundreds of tanks and supplies. Oh WAIT.... the tanks were actually advancing so fast the gas trucks couldn't keep up so the tanks had to buy gas from their friendly Iraqian gas stations. rofl
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On April 06 2010 04:50 FortuneSyn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:45 Mystlord wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ??? Did you watch the video? On April 06 2010 02:56 BlackJack wrote:I'm pretty sure those are weapons. In case it's not obvious, they are just as readily going to kill 4 guys with AKs as they are 2 guys with AKs and 2 guys with cameras. Quoting it again. Where's the excuse for americans shooting at the van that was helping the wounded? Because due to a hand full of Teaparty members withholding on paying taxes, the US government could not afford to fit all military personal with standard issue E1337 Clairvoyance Goggles.
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On April 06 2010 04:48 Zoler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:47 Saugardas wrote:
Another thing that bugs me about this thread is the fact that some people are saying that all Americans ought to be ashamed of themselves. It is as if you are saying those 3 crazy soldiers represent the entire US population of 300,000,000. Please people, do not simplify your thinking like that. Well, if you don't represent it, why don't you do anything about it? What does this say about how the people are thinking / how wierd your country is ?
...I am going to sit back and laugh. Troll
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On April 06 2010 04:44 jonnyp wrote:
Why the hell would they drive towards a fire-fight with a van full of children?! I can somewhat understand the sentiment of wanting to help out, but it's obviously a bad idea if you have children riding in the backseat.
Anyways, the summary of events as I understand them:
1. Soldiers are patrolling an area in an attack helicopter. The fact that they are patrolling this area hints that there might have been some disturbances recently. Really, though, we have no idea about the context these events happened in.
2. Soldiers see a group of armed men who appear to be terrorists, request permission to fire.
3. Soldiers get permission to fire, they fire. They are excited to have killed some (what they thought were) terrorists. They fired again to make sure the terrorists were dead, my guess is they don't want one to suddenly pop up and shoot an rpg at them.
4. An unmarked van pulled up to the group of men, it was unclear what exactly they were doing driving up suddenly to a fire-fight. Soldiers ask permission to fire on the suspicious van.
5. Soldiers get permission to fire on said van, they fire on van.
6. Awkward moment when they find out that some idiot drove into a fire-fight with a van full of children.
and lol @ riet
What if one of the guys first shot was your brother, you have a van and are close-by? You let him die? We don't know the situation on the ground, maybe the van driver is a close friend? A colleague? All we know is that van was not posing a threat (neither were the first people they shot).
You don't understand that these people have lives, families, aspirations, dreams? You'd let them die there? You wouldn't try to rescue them? At this distance, they probably couldn't even tell what fucking shot them... You fail to consider that these people have reasons to do what they do. It's like the video game generation is stuck in single player mode where everything around them is CPU and isn't as important as themselves.
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On April 06 2010 04:47 FortuneSyn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:41 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ohmygod. -_- are you serious? first of all . "All americans should be ashamed of this shit" you're judging a large group of people because of the action of a few? Like saying all germans are nazi's. secondly, ITS A WAR. honestly if i were in uniform standing guard, and there was a person with a object THAT LOOKS LIKE A GUN i'd be scared shitless. They did what was expected of them. Of course it lead to unexpected deaths but if they hadnt and it had been enemies they would have been the ones who had died Cut the fucking "I am me, he is him" argument. You are an american (lets assume you are). that was an american army shooting fucking civilians. they represent your fucking country. they represent you. im gonna call you out, and say you are a piece of shit. You don't get to have your leaders kill innocents, and not a be part of the blame. Just like your fucking army generalizes terrorists and shoots them just in case, I'm gonna generalize americans, and say you did it and support it. If you want that to change, then go do something about it.
except half the americans DIDN'T support it and in fact had no idea so many civilians would get killed. and the ones that did support it weren't thinking "man i hope a lot of civilians die"
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On April 06 2010 04:50 ErOs_HalO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:47 FortuneSyn wrote:On April 06 2010 04:41 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ohmygod. -_- are you serious? first of all . "All americans should be ashamed of this shit" you're judging a large group of people because of the action of a few? Like saying all germans are nazi's. secondly, ITS A WAR. honestly if i were in uniform standing guard, and there was a person with a object THAT LOOKS LIKE A GUN i'd be scared shitless. They did what was expected of them. Of course it lead to unexpected deaths but if they hadnt and it had been enemies they would have been the ones who had died Cut the fucking "I am me, he is him" argument. You are an american (lets assume you are). that was an american army shooting fucking civilians. they represent your fucking country. they represent you. im gonna call you out, and say you are a piece of shit. You don't get to have your leaders kill innocents, and not a be part of the blame. Just like your fucking army generalizes terrorists and shoots them just in case, I'm gonna generalize americans, and say you did it and support it. If you want that to change, then go do something about it. .... you are going to call me out.. and call me a peice of shit because a soldier killed somebody. ME? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? SERIOUSLY? Please don't post in this thread, that's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard in my fkn life.
I'm gonna call out Americans. Not whatever your name is.
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On April 06 2010 04:47 Saugardas wrote:
Another thing that bugs me about this thread is the fact that some people are saying that all Americans ought to be ashamed of themselves. It is as if you are saying those 3 crazy soldiers represent the entire US population of 300,000,000. Please people, do not simplify your thinking like that.
But Osama bin Laden represent the entire Afghan and Iraqi population.
No? Why are your soldiers and leaders thinking like that then? Isnt the government MANDATED BY THE PEOPLE?
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On April 06 2010 04:44 Boblion wrote:
I find highly amuzing the people in this thread who are blaming the two journalists because one of their bodyguards ( ? ) might have one Ak-47 ( ? ). This is especiallly funny because they are the same people who have defended their right to own a weapon ( in the US ) because of potential threats.
I mean yea it is perfectly okay to have a weapon in the United States but in Iraq where kidnapping is common, militias and robbers everywhere people shouldn't be afraid to walk in the street unarmed.
Gotta love the hypocrisy.
This is so true I laughed out loud lol
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On April 06 2010 04:49 Southlight wrote:Apparently, Cook Island people cannot watch videos nor read threads, too. Yeah, I'm calling your country out. If you want that to change, then go do something about it. (Dunno if you actually live there.) Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:48 Jibba wrote:On April 06 2010 04:44 Boblion wrote:
I find highly amuzing the people in this thread who are blaming the two journalists because one of their bodyguards ( ? ) might have one Ak-47 ( ? ). This is especiallly funny because they are the same people who have defended their right to own a weapon ( in the US ) because of potential threats.
I mean yea it is perfectly okay to have a weapon in the United States but in Iraq where kidnapping is common, militias and robbers everywhere people shouldn't be afraid to walk in the street unarmed.
Gotta love the hypocrisy. This is the most insightful thing anyone's put in this thread. It's not really insightful. The place is called a danger zone for a reason. Friendly fire happens; civilians are not somehow magically exempt from it. Not to mention, nowadays most wars take place in areas where you cannot discern between friend and foe. Either side is going to be extremely trigger-happy to save their own skin - you cannot blame them for being so, and you would not be different yourself, unless you are one of 1% of the world who would actually take a bullet instead of firing at a false positive. The best thing about the video is that you could probably find hundreds of examples of Iraqi forces firing upon other Iraqi to prevent the same goddamn thing from happening. Only the other way around. Where is the outrage?
You make it sound so easy to do so. Would love to see you react if this happened in your city though. Your mom, sister and family died? Though shit homeboy, the place is called a danger zone for a reason!
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On April 06 2010 04:51 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:50 FortuneSyn wrote:On April 06 2010 04:45 Mystlord wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ??? Did you watch the video? On April 06 2010 02:56 BlackJack wrote:I'm pretty sure those are weapons. In case it's not obvious, they are just as readily going to kill 4 guys with AKs as they are 2 guys with AKs and 2 guys with cameras. Quoting it again. Where's the excuse for americans shooting at the van that was helping the wounded? it's an unmarked van, not a medic or an ambulance. Big difference.
Oh ok, so next time you're helping a fellow citizen of yours wounded on the street almost dieing, make sure you go paint your car white and red and put a blinking light on top of it.
On April 06 2010 04:52 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:50 FortuneSyn wrote:On April 06 2010 04:45 Mystlord wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ??? Did you watch the video? On April 06 2010 02:56 BlackJack wrote:I'm pretty sure those are weapons. In case it's not obvious, they are just as readily going to kill 4 guys with AKs as they are 2 guys with AKs and 2 guys with cameras. Quoting it again. Where's the excuse for americans shooting at the van that was helping the wounded? Because due to a hand full of Teaparty members withholding on paying taxes, the US government could not afford to fit all military personal with standard issue E1337 Clairvoyance Goggles.
Oh right, so if in doubt, shoot? Great protocol for engagement these americans have.
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On April 06 2010 04:51 Subversive wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:47 FortuneSyn wrote:On April 06 2010 04:41 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ohmygod. -_- are you serious? first of all . "All americans should be ashamed of this shit" you're judging a large group of people because of the action of a few? Like saying all germans are nazi's. secondly, ITS A WAR. honestly if i were in uniform standing guard, and there was a person with a object THAT LOOKS LIKE A GUN i'd be scared shitless. They did what was expected of them. Of course it lead to unexpected deaths but if they hadnt and it had been enemies they would have been the ones who had died Cut the fucking "I am me, he is him" argument. You are an american (lets assume you are). that was an american army shooting fucking civilians. they represent your fucking country. they represent you. im gonna call you out, and say you are a piece of shit. You don't get to have your leaders kill innocents, and not a be part of the blame. Just like your fucking army generalizes terrorists and shoots them just in case, I'm gonna generalize americans, and say you did it and support it. If you want that to change, then go do something about it. Er that's really off. It's a democracy. Sometimes the party or leader you don't want gets in. And they do things like invade Iraq. I didn't support australia's invasion and I'm sure there are plenty of americans who aren't happy with everything Bush did or Obama is doing now. You can't group the entire nation and say it's responsible for everything it's government has ever done. Leave americans alone. Seriously, the second most annoying thing in this thread is ppl bashing americans generally. Dislike the policy or the government, not the people.
Yeah, just whine at the government and hope that the next 2 candidates the establishment hand picks are magically different and will break off from the elite who runs policy behind the curtains. LOL. Magical thinking does wonders.
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On April 06 2010 04:47 FortuneSyn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:41 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ohmygod. -_- are you serious? first of all . "All americans should be ashamed of this shit" you're judging a large group of people because of the action of a few? Like saying all germans are nazi's. secondly, ITS A WAR. honestly if i were in uniform standing guard, and there was a person with a object THAT LOOKS LIKE A GUN i'd be scared shitless. They did what was expected of them. Of course it lead to unexpected deaths but if they hadnt and it had been enemies they would have been the ones who had died Cut the fucking "I am me, he is him" argument. You are an american (lets assume you are). that was an american army shooting fucking civilians. they represent your fucking country. they represent you. im gonna call you out, and say you are a piece of shit. You don't get to have your leaders kill innocents, and not a be part of the blame. Just like your fucking army generalizes terrorists and shoots them just in case, I'm gonna generalize americans, and say you did it and support it. If you want that to change, then go do something about it.
umad?
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On April 06 2010 04:48 Zoler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:47 Saugardas wrote:
Another thing that bugs me about this thread is the fact that some people are saying that all Americans ought to be ashamed of themselves. It is as if you are saying those 3 crazy soldiers represent the entire US population of 300,000,000. Please people, do not simplify your thinking like that. Well, if you don't represent it, why don't you do anything about it? What does this say about how the people are thinking / how wierd your country is ?
You're from Sweden and calling other countries weird? Also, I beat you in a bo3.
Sums up this thread very well I guess, 3-4 people trying to keep it civil and masses of "OMG AMERICA SUCKS" kids, 1 guy saying he wants to blow himself up in an American crowd (why aren't you banned already?) and more hilarious shit.
Oh, and talking about TV-brainwashed American consumption zombies just makes you look like you're the one being brainwashed by European media, their consensus being "AMERICA SUCKS".
I just quoted Zoler because I don't like him.
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On April 06 2010 04:52 reit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:44 jonnyp wrote:
Why the hell would they drive towards a fire-fight with a van full of children?! I can somewhat understand the sentiment of wanting to help out, but it's obviously a bad idea if you have children riding in the backseat.
Anyways, the summary of events as I understand them:
1. Soldiers are patrolling an area in an attack helicopter. The fact that they are patrolling this area hints that there might have been some disturbances recently. Really, though, we have no idea about the context these events happened in.
2. Soldiers see a group of armed men who appear to be terrorists, request permission to fire.
3. Soldiers get permission to fire, they fire. They are excited to have killed some (what they thought were) terrorists. They fired again to make sure the terrorists were dead, my guess is they don't want one to suddenly pop up and shoot an rpg at them.
4. An unmarked van pulled up to the group of men, it was unclear what exactly they were doing driving up suddenly to a fire-fight. Soldiers ask permission to fire on the suspicious van.
5. Soldiers get permission to fire on said van, they fire on van.
6. Awkward moment when they find out that some idiot drove into a fire-fight with a van full of children.
and lol @ riet What if one of the guys first shot was your brother, you have a van and are close-by? You let him die? We don't know the situation on the ground, maybe the van driver is a close friend? A colleague? All we know is that van was not posing a threat (neither were the first people they shot). You don't understand that these people have lives, families, aspirations, dreams? You'd let them die there? You wouldn't try to rescue them? At this distance, they probably couldn't even tell what fucking shot them... You fail to consider that these people have reasons to do what they do. It's like the video game generation is stuck in single player mode where everything around them is CPU and isn't as important as themselves.
lol, did you read my post at all? I said I UNDERSTAND wanting to help out, but (and listen carefully to this part) they had a van full of children! You don't drive a bunch of children into a fire-fight, it's basic common sense. If they really had to help out that badly then at least leave the children out of it.
As to the "not posing a threat", they're in an unmarked white van pulling up to a group of what were highly believed to be armed insurrectionists. A little suspicious.
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In Iraq, AK-47s are widely owned and often publicly displayed. This, coupled with the fact that there are security firms, private military companies etc. working in Iraq should indicate that just because someone has a weapon does not mean they are automatically a terrorist.
An AK-47 would do little damage (if any) to a helicopter, and an RPG's range combined with a moving target high up in the air means that they, too, are almost useless.
What I'm trying to say that is none of these people should have been engaged in the first place, there was no way at all to identify them as hostiles and even if they were then they would have posed no threat to the helicopter crew. If you want to argue that this was fine, ask yourself why was this covered up in the first place.
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On April 06 2010 04:58 reit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:51 Subversive wrote:On April 06 2010 04:47 FortuneSyn wrote:On April 06 2010 04:41 DreaM)XeRO wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ohmygod. -_- are you serious? first of all . "All americans should be ashamed of this shit" you're judging a large group of people because of the action of a few? Like saying all germans are nazi's. secondly, ITS A WAR. honestly if i were in uniform standing guard, and there was a person with a object THAT LOOKS LIKE A GUN i'd be scared shitless. They did what was expected of them. Of course it lead to unexpected deaths but if they hadnt and it had been enemies they would have been the ones who had died Cut the fucking "I am me, he is him" argument. You are an american (lets assume you are). that was an american army shooting fucking civilians. they represent your fucking country. they represent you. im gonna call you out, and say you are a piece of shit. You don't get to have your leaders kill innocents, and not a be part of the blame. Just like your fucking army generalizes terrorists and shoots them just in case, I'm gonna generalize americans, and say you did it and support it. If you want that to change, then go do something about it. Er that's really off. It's a democracy. Sometimes the party or leader you don't want gets in. And they do things like invade Iraq. I didn't support australia's invasion and I'm sure there are plenty of americans who aren't happy with everything Bush did or Obama is doing now. You can't group the entire nation and say it's responsible for everything it's government has ever done. Leave americans alone. Seriously, the second most annoying thing in this thread is ppl bashing americans generally. Dislike the policy or the government, not the people. Yeah, just whine at the government and hope that the next 2 candidates the establishment hand picks are magically different and will break off from the elite who runs policy behind the curtains. LOL. Magical thinking does wonders.
so what do you want people to do? blow up a US embassy like you were suggesting?
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On April 06 2010 04:58 FortuneSyn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:51 Hawk wrote:On April 06 2010 04:50 FortuneSyn wrote:On April 06 2010 04:45 Mystlord wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ??? Did you watch the video? On April 06 2010 02:56 BlackJack wrote:I'm pretty sure those are weapons. In case it's not obvious, they are just as readily going to kill 4 guys with AKs as they are 2 guys with AKs and 2 guys with cameras. Quoting it again. Where's the excuse for americans shooting at the van that was helping the wounded? it's an unmarked van, not a medic or an ambulance. Big difference. Oh ok, so next time you're helping a fellow citizen of yours wounded on the street almost dieing, make sure you go paint your car white and red and put a blinking light on top of it. Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 04:52 Jibba wrote:On April 06 2010 04:50 FortuneSyn wrote:On April 06 2010 04:45 Mystlord wrote:On April 06 2010 04:38 FortuneSyn wrote:
Wow what a piece of shit excuse for protocol to allow engagement. Fucking americans. First they engage on targets that you cannot identify whether they are armed with a rpg or a FUCKING CAMERA. Then they engage a fucking van that comes over to pick a wounded person up.
IF YOU SEE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DIEING ON THE STREET, WOULD YOU HELP HIM? DOES THAT CATEGORIZE YOU AS A FUCKING TERRORIST?
What a pathetic excuse for a country. All americans should be ashamed of this shit. ??? Did you watch the video? On April 06 2010 02:56 BlackJack wrote:I'm pretty sure those are weapons. In case it's not obvious, they are just as readily going to kill 4 guys with AKs as they are 2 guys with AKs and 2 guys with cameras. Quoting it again. Where's the excuse for americans shooting at the van that was helping the wounded? Because due to a hand full of Teaparty members withholding on paying taxes, the US government could not afford to fit all military personal with standard issue E1337 Clairvoyance Goggles. Oh right, so if in doubt, shoot? Great protocol for engagement these americans have. Yes, it makes perfect fucking sense when unmarked vans are often used to ram through barriers while carrying explosives.
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