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Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
April 20 2010 23:48 GMT
#661
a letter to iraq from two soldiers involved
AN OPEN LETTER OF RECONCILIATION & RESPONSIBILITY TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE
From Current and Former Members of the U.S. Military

Peace be with you.

To all of those who were injured or lost loved ones during the July 2007 Baghdad shootings depicted in the “Collateral Murder” Wikileaks video:

We write to you, your family, and your community with awareness that our words and actions can never restore your losses.

We are both soldiers who occupied your neighborhood for 14 months. Ethan McCord pulled your daughter and son from the van, and when doing so, saw the faces of his own children back home. Josh Stieber was in the same company but was not there that day, though he contributed to the your pain, and the pain of your community on many other occasions.

There is no bringing back all that was lost. What we seek is to learn from our mistakes and do everything we can to tell others of our experiences and how the people of the United States need to realize we have done and are doing to you and the people of your country. We humbly ask you what we can do to begin to repair the damage we caused.

We have been speaking to whoever will listen, telling them that what was shown in the Wikileaks video only begins to depict the suffering we have created. From our own experiences, and the experiences of other veterans we have talked to, we know that the acts depicted in this video are everyday occurrences of this war: this is the nature of how U.S.-led wars are carried out in this region.

We acknowledge our part in the deaths and injuries of your loved ones as we tell Americans what we were trained to do and what we carried out in the name of "god and country". The soldier in the video said that your husband shouldn't have brought your children to battle, but we are acknowledging our responsibility for bringing the battle to your neighborhood, and to your family. We did unto you what we would not want done to us.

More and more Americans are taking responsibility for what was done in our name. Though we have acted with cold hearts far too many times, we have not forgotten our actions towards you. Our heavy hearts still hold hope that we can restore inside our country the acknowledgment of your humanity, that we were taught to deny.

Our government may ignore you, concerned more with its public image. It has also ignored many veterans who have returned physically injured or mentally troubled by what they saw and did in your country. But the time is long overdue that we say that the value of our nation's leaders no longer represent us. Our secretary of defense may say the U.S. won't lose its reputation over this, but we stand and say that our reputation's importance pales in comparison to our common humanity.

We have asked our fellow veterans and service-members, as well as civilians both in the United States and abroad, to sign in support of this letter, and to offer their names as a testimony to our common humanity, to distance ourselves from the destructive policies of our nation's leaders, and to extend our hands to you.

With such pain, friendship might be too much to ask. Please accept our apology, our sorrow, our care, and our dedication to change from the inside out. We are doing what we can to speak out against the wars and military policies responsible for what happened to you and your loved ones. Our hearts are open to hearing how we can take any steps to support you through the pain that we have caused.

Solemnly and Sincerely,
Josh Stieber, former specialist, U.S. Army
Ethan McCord, former specialist, U.S. Army


http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5966/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2724

guess this incident isn't an outrage. just an every day occurrence.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2006
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Last Edited: 2010-04-28 19:48:07
April 28 2010 19:47 GMT
#662
One of the men mentioned in the letter above, Ethan McCord was interviewed today on The Current, a CBC Radio current affairs program.

Again, to recap, he is the soldier in the video seen pulling the children out of the destroyed van. It is a very informative, even-handed interview that should serve as required listening for anybody still taking part in this thread:

Pt 3: Ethan McCord - When Wikileaks uploaded the video of an attack on Iraqis by two US Apache helicopters, it included footage of two soldiers rushing injured children toward help. Army specialist Ethan McCord recognized himself caught on grainy video on the very day his view of that war and his definition of patriotism changed forever


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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
June 18 2010 01:23 GMT
#663
Word on the street is Julian Assange has since canceled his interviews for months to come and gone underground. A government manhunt is rumored to be underway.

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Profile Joined May 2010
114 Posts
June 18 2010 01:59 GMT
#664
I don't find the footage to be an outrage. I would ask why they were firing on those targets at all though, and what the reporter was doing there.

A lot of people have criticized the attitude of the soldiers. I agree that you shouldn't have someone just itching to fire controlling a gun like that. It also seems barbaric that when they saw the kids body the first response was "Ah, damn. Oh well" - but what do you expect? They were sent there to kill, and that wasn't the first unnecessary death that they saw. Don't expect them to go all theatrical and cry.
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