Churches Attacked in Malaysian ‘Allah’ Dispute - Page 4

On January 09 2010 11:07 cz wrote:
This story is a fabrication; I know this because Islam is the religion of peace, and thus what you stated cannot have happened.

On January 09 2010 14:40 haduken wrote:
This is so retarded. Muslims do realize that their god is the same as Christian god right?

On January 09 2010 15:32 Mindcrime wrote:


That is like saying that the Greek and Roman religions were the same; it only appears to be true if you ignore the very significant differences.

On January 09 2010 11:41 KwarK wrote:

No, in America they shoot abortion doctors whereas in Europe they do petitions and talk about it all.

On January 09 2010 11:31 Gunman_csz wrote:
Please rephrase the title, that is really offensive to most of the Muslim tl members/ even thou I am moderate liberal Muslim I can't stand the tittle! You should rather rename it to "Muslim or Islam Dispute".

On January 09 2010 11:49 KwarK wrote:

Still, comparing America to Europe in terms of extremism is lol. Europe has no extremism anymore. We're far too grown up for that.

On January 09 2010 20:56 MamiyaOtaru wrote:

Bull and shit. I was going to say "well, there may not be a lot of "ethnic European" extremists, but you sure have a lot among the immigrant population", when I remembered even that assertion is going too far. The former East Germany has lots of neo Nazis. They have a political party that holds seats in a couple state governments. Germany isn't the only country with Neo Nazis either, don't even try to pretend otherwise. And though less extreme, Austria had Jörg Haider as part of a coalition government. Britain has the BNP. Forgetting all of them, during the time I lived in England the IRA set off a couple rather large bombs. Around that same time Europe had a troubling incident with ethnic cleansing (never again, except in the Balkans maybe).

And to get back to my original point, on top of all that there is your problem with a population that is less than fully integrated (which maybe you'd like to pretend isn't European, despite there being millions of them who aren't going anywhere), from which you get sweet stuff like dudes holding up "kill those who insult Islam" signs while the Bobbies stand by, or who embark on week long riots over some cartoons. You have to be fucking kidding me "Europe has no extremism".

If your post was sarcastic, I got trolled. If it wasn't, pull your head out.

On January 09 2010 11:15 Shizuru~ wrote:


i agree with u that muslim is a religion that promotes peace

On January 09 2010 21:51 ggrrg wrote:
@ KwarK
yeah sure we don't have any extremists in Europe...

@ MamiyaOtaru
Just for clarification, the Neo Nazi political party in Germany does not hold any seats in any state government anymore. But I see your point.

@ intrudor
I love that chart. Unfortunately, it is sad that it depicts reality to quite some extent...

@ StarsPride
Do you come from Kansas by any chance? Ever read this?

On January 09 2010 21:51 ggrrg wrote:
@ MamiyaOtaru
Just for clarification, the Neo Nazi political party in Germany does not hold any seats in any state government anymore. But I see your point.

On January 09 2010 12:50 Vedic wrote:
I can't understand why Christians would want to be able to refer to their god as Allah. They're basically saying "You just worship the word for god, but it really means our god." Anyone who doesn't see this as IRL trolling is blind.

Violence and bickering over the potential naming conventions of fantasy characters is hilarious.

On January 09 2010 22:25 freelander wrote:


No..

Muslims and christians both worship the same god.
Allah is just the arabic name of God.

On January 09 2010 11:49 KwarK wrote:

Still, comparing America to Europe in terms of extremism is lol. Europe has no extremism anymore. We're far too grown up for that.

On January 09 2010 22:43 chongu wrote:
**Yawnn***.... Just a bunch of Malay youths who are been badly misguided and have nothing better to do. It just shows an underlying problem of racism, inequality, education system and incredibly defunct government

So, lets get back to the real deal..... a possible Flash vs Jaedong Finals!!!!!!!! : ) omgomgomgomgomgomogmomgomomgomomogmoasdaskdgaskjdsakjdhkasjckjhsakcjhas

Edit: the above poster is correct btw.... as the anthem of some states in Malaysia use the term 'Allah' and is generally accepted as the god of their respective religions

On January 09 2010 15:55 ghermination wrote:

A good point but a bad example.
Nobody knows where the Greek religion started, but if you delve very deep into the lore there is a lot of conflicting fables (for example, many times Zeus seems to father children out of the blue), only because as the culture of the Greeks solidified, every village with its own patron god and shrine had to add it's own beliefs to the big ball of religion, which is where you get these ridiculously complicated webs of gods and how they are related.

The Romans, who, being partially descended from and geographically located very close too the Greeks, bloomed several hundred years after them. They absorbed most of the culture and religion of the Greeks while adapting a new language, and modifying several key parts (For example, Herkales -> Hercules, Odysseus -> Ulysses, Zeus -> Jupiter etc.)

These religions were indeed very similiar and founded from the same base. Most of the lore was the same and often stories were adapted completely. For example, the Romans were acting out Philoctetes several hundred years after it had been written by the great Greek writer Sophocles, which is just one indicator of how they cannibalized much of the religion and culture of the Greeks.