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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
On January 09 2010 12:31 liosama wrote: Again both of these posts show how little you guys know about human historical progression Your posts are not only condescending, they're flat out false and contain common repeated tropes about the so-called Golden age of Islam. Instead of lecturing people on orientalism, you need to examine your own doctrines. | ||
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daz
Canada643 Posts
On January 10 2010 02:51 DragoonPK wrote: Are you nuts or something? Islam is the most adaptable religion I saw, modern day scholars look at everyday news etc and issue new things etc. Dude i fucking hate all of these retards that just fucking ruin my RELIGION! They just show a retarded example and provided the fucking media the easiest road to throw biases into people's minds. FUCK FUCK FUCK! your religion ruins itself. go read the koran if you don't want to take my word for it | ||
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Savant
United States379 Posts
On January 10 2010 02:52 MannerMan wrote: It is very sad that so many can be moved so strongly by religion. I hope one day they can see the beautiful truths behind our existence instead of the lies and tyranny of those who oppress them with fear. LOL at the atheists and science-worshippers. Sure, if we eliminate all religion we can get rid of all that's wrong in the world. Oh wait, I forgot that Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, etc. were all devout worshippers of God who didn't massacre innocent members of religious minorities. And certainly the innumerable humanitarian programs fueled by religious belief would certainly continue if everyone came to their senses and became atheist (hint: look at China for this dream state). Let's not forget that Eugenics was a direct result of scientific, not religious, ideas. Let's face it people, looking at history being inhuman is the natural state of humanity, and just because people manipulate religion (along with everything else) to justify their greed, bigotry, or racism doesn't make religion the villain. If anything, religion provides a check to some of these tendencies: without religion Hitler, Mao, etc. could still exist, but Mother Teresa could not. If you're atheist fine, but don't go calling people who differ with your OPINION ignorant misled retards because that's just announcing that you're an ignorant misled retard, and puts you on the same level as that Muslim/Christian/Hindu who right now is calling you an ignorant misled retard. Believe it or not, there is a way to rationally discuss sensitive issues like this without resorting to name calling and displays of your intellectual bigotry. Thank you very much. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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daz
Canada643 Posts
On January 10 2010 10:27 Savant wrote: LOL at the atheists and science-worshippers. Sure, if we eliminate all religion we can get rid of all that's wrong in the world. Oh wait, I forgot that Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, etc. were all devout worshippers of God who didn't massacre innocent members of religious minorities. And certainly the innumerable humanitarian programs fueled by religious belief would certainly continue if everyone came to their senses and became atheist (hint: look at China for this dream state). Let's not forget that Eugenics was a direct result of scientific, not religious, ideas. Let's face it people, looking at history being inhuman is the natural state of humanity, and just because people manipulate religion (along with everything else) to justify their greed, bigotry, or racism doesn't make religion the villain. If anything, religion provides a check to some of these tendencies: without religion Hitler, Mao, etc. could still exist, but Mother Teresa could not. If you're atheist fine, but don't go calling people who differ with your OPINION ignorant mislead retards because that's just announcing that you're an ignorant mislead retard, and puts you on the same level as that Muslim/Christian/Hindu who right now is calling you an ignorant mislead retard. Believe it or not, there is a way to rationally discuss sensitive issues like this without resorting to name calling and displays of your intellectual bigotry. Thank you very much. There's no way for YOU to rationally discuss them because you're not capable of rational thinking. | ||
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timmeh
Austria177 Posts
On January 10 2010 10:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The actions of Stalin and Mao Tse Tung were not resultant of their atheism, however many religions actively encourage violence. Atheism is not an ideology, it is a lack of religious belief and nothing further than that. More profoundly, atheism is not just a lack of religious belief, it actually denies the existence of god actively. But I guess you may have meant that to begin with Sorry to be knitpicking on this ;> | ||
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Savant
United States379 Posts
On January 10 2010 10:46 daz wrote: There's no way for YOU to rationally discuss them because you're not capable of rational thinking. I'm an applied physics major at Cornell with a 3.8 GPA. I think I'm entitled to be considered at least a somewhat rational human being. And no, I'm not denying that religion can be bad as well as good. I'm just calling out the idiots who make religion the scapegoat for all that is wrong with the world. My personal opinion on the matter is that the people involved should be tried and punished as criminals. I also think there is something seriously wrong within the Muslim religion that would inspire so many of its adherents to religious violence. | ||
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tryTRY
United States24 Posts
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
On January 10 2010 11:02 timmeh wrote: More profoundly, atheism is not just a lack of religious belief, it actually denies the existence of god actively. But I guess you may have meant that to begin with Sorry to be knitpicking on this ;> There are many varieties of atheism. Weak atheism does not positively deny the existence of a deity. Also "nitpick" is the correct spelling. I cavil far too much for my own good. | ||
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daz
Canada643 Posts
On January 10 2010 11:14 Savant wrote: I'm an applied physics major at Cornell with a 3.8 GPA. I think I'm entitled to be considered at least a somewhat rational human being. And no, I'm not denying that religion can be bad as well as good. I'm just calling out the idiots who make religion the scapegoat for all that is wrong with the world. My personal opinion on the matter is that the people involved should be tried and punished as criminals. I also think there is something seriously wrong within the Muslim religion that would inspire so many of its adherents to religious violence. Oh ok, you go to school therefore you MUST be rational, and it's ok for you to marginalize the people you disagree with as idiots, its just not ok for them to do it because you disagree with them. I understand now. Thanks for clearing that up. | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
On January 10 2010 10:27 Savant wrote: LOL at the atheists and science-worshippers. Sure, if we eliminate all religion we can get rid of all that's wrong in the world. Oh wait, I forgot that Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, etc. were all devout worshippers of God who didn't massacre innocent members of religious minorities. Nothing those people did was in the name of atheism. | ||
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timmeh
Austria177 Posts
On January 10 2010 11:29 EchOne wrote: There are many varieties of atheism. Weak atheism does not positively deny the existence of a deity. Also "nitpick" is the correct spelling. I cavil far too much for my own good. It seems you are correct on both counts ^^ thought, nothing I feel particularly strong about :O | ||
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Dracid
United States280 Posts
So much misunderstanding, so little tolerance. | ||
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yrag89
Malaysia315 Posts
So they went to Federal Court and Court decide Allah can be continued to be used by the publication. So now the goverment trying to bring it to the Court of Appel or something. Then this attacks happen. | ||
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yrag89
Malaysia315 Posts
On January 09 2010 12:50 Vedic wrote: I can't understand why Christians would want to be able to refer to their god as Allah. They're basically saying "You just worship the word for god, but it really means our god." Anyone who doesn't see this as IRL trolling is blind. Violence and bickering over the potential naming conventions of fantasy characters is hilarious. In Malay Language, they call God, Allah. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
...At least I hope that this stuff I'm reading is trolling... | ||
KwarK
United States42649 Posts
On January 10 2010 10:27 Savant wrote: but Mother Teresa could not Because all human goodness is divinely inspired and humanity without a God is innately evil. If it hadn't been for God forcing her to be a good person she'd have gone round dealing drugs to street kids and killing people in drive bys. Seriously? | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
On January 10 2010 11:17 tryTRY wrote: ALLAH AKBAR!!!!!!!!!!! lol it's ALLAHU AKBAR | ||
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intrudor
Canada446 Posts
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TeWy
France714 Posts
I wish the DNA of Richard Dawkins/Friedrich Nietzsche could be combined, and create a super-atheist who speech after speech would quote their holy scriptures and rip apart their stupid belief system. | ||
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