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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
December 23 2009 09:51 GMT
#41
Thanks alot R1CH.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 11:12:20
December 23 2009 11:11 GMT
#42
Oh so sweet.
The only thing is really disliked on TL was the search engine. Good job.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
December 23 2009 11:39 GMT
#43
Some steps forward, some back.

I think the steps forward are bigger, but some of those back steps could be problematic.(editing for some threads)
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
December 23 2009 11:40 GMT
#44
Thanks R1CH and everyone who worked on this!
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
December 23 2009 12:15 GMT
#45
Thanks!

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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
December 23 2009 12:20 GMT
#46
Awesome work, even though the first two disadvantages kinda suck...
I'm glad to see restrictions go.
BW fighting!
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 23 2009 13:20 GMT
#47
Very nice R1CH... glad to see continuous improvements are always being made.
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 23 2009 13:35 GMT
#48
Thanks, I really do appreciate the faster loads, and esp. when TSL is active, not being able to search was a pain. I am one of those search your own name people and am hoping that you find a good solution to that since I am too lazy to go back and look lots of times.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
December 23 2009 14:05 GMT
#49
I love you rich :3
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
December 23 2009 14:27 GMT
#50
Can someone explain how editing is such a big deal? The content of most edits is very minor, if it's an entirely new post, why not just make a new post?

On December 23 2009 18:25 H wrote:
R1CH why has SA not already done this
explain it to me in terms a dumb person would understand

They did, it just took two years to implement for some reason.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
December 23 2009 14:52 GMT
#51
any thread with substantial OP edits is probably stickied or prominent enough to find without text searching, so yeah, it's probably not a big deal
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
December 23 2009 14:58 GMT
#52
CTStalker, the idea of a search function is to eliminate the need to look through a bunch of sticky posts and other posts of certain kind.
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The whole edit issue isn't that big of a deal, if full indexing happens at some interval (every week, month or half-year). Claiming a need to search in the edits of posts made within the last week (or month or so) is ridiculous.
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 23 2009 14:58 GMT
#53
On December 23 2009 23:27 R1CH wrote:
Can someone explain how editing is such a big deal? The content of most edits is very minor, if it's an entirely new post, why not just make a new post?

Any topic with a static OP (e.g., R&S topics, tournament topics, live report topics, "vault"-type topics) is often updated repeatedly. I agree that these topics are usually pretty easy to find on their own, but it seems inelegant.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
December 23 2009 15:01 GMT
#54
Badjas, you can still search those threads, and in all likelihood, you'd be searching for something like the thread title, or keywords that were in the original OP, not things like 'UPDATE'. unless some of you guys do search for 'UPDATE'? lolz
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 23 2009 15:05 GMT
#55
Finally, Ive been searching a lot of things lately and some things take FOREVER to load... R1CH!!!! I love your icon, its by far teh pimpest one out of all of the ones on TL. If you update it to the wizard with the lightning I call dibs on this one!
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
December 23 2009 17:29 GMT
#56
On December 23 2009 23:58 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2009 23:27 R1CH wrote:
Can someone explain how editing is such a big deal? The content of most edits is very minor, if it's an entirely new post, why not just make a new post?

Any topic with a static OP (e.g., R&S topics, tournament topics, live report topics, "vault"-type topics) is often updated repeatedly. I agree that these topics are usually pretty easy to find on their own, but it seems inelegant.

R&S and tournament posts are usually only updated with the results, the maps and players would still be in the OP and still be searchable so nothing is really lost. LR threads tend to move so fast that people make new posts rather than edits, and they are unlikely to edit a LR post after a few minutes I imagine. I just don't see the "doomsday scenario" where someone posts something and the entire content of the post changes after indexing.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 23 2009 17:39 GMT
#57
i don't see the index issue at all (although i never noticed the slowdown issue either so maybe i'm just b lind)
here's how i see it.. keep in mind (as i understand it) your posts aren't indexed immediately after you post.. so that if you post at time t, and the next indexing takes place at t+1, any edits you made in between those 2 (let's say it's 30 minutes) will be indexed as well

and it's fairly rare for a post to be updated significantly after its post date.. with the few exceptions already outlined.. but the exceptions are easy to find either way (tourney threads etc)
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
December 23 2009 18:09 GMT
#58
I'm not a person that overuses search, so better speed and faster searches are great. The disadvantages are not minor though. We'll see, and thanks R1CH!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 18:55:28
December 23 2009 18:54 GMT
#59
Ok I love everything GREAT JOB /bow. But then I got to this part
Updates are no longer real-time. Search is primarily used to help locate older posts; Sphinx does not support index updates so updates to the search index will happen on an hourly (depending on server load) basis. We are discussing alternatives for those of you who are search-happy with your own username.



Also The edit thing is kind of fucked up.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
December 23 2009 19:11 GMT
#60
On December 24 2009 02:29 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2009 23:58 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On December 23 2009 23:27 R1CH wrote:
Can someone explain how editing is such a big deal? The content of most edits is very minor, if it's an entirely new post, why not just make a new post?

Any topic with a static OP (e.g., R&S topics, tournament topics, live report topics, "vault"-type topics) is often updated repeatedly. I agree that these topics are usually pretty easy to find on their own, but it seems inelegant.

R&S and tournament posts are usually only updated with the results, the maps and players would still be in the OP and still be searchable so nothing is really lost. LR threads tend to move so fast that people make new posts rather than edits, and they are unlikely to edit a LR post after a few minutes I imagine. I just don't see the "doomsday scenario" where someone posts something and the entire content of the post changes after indexing.

Well I brought up this example earlier, but you might have missed it, so here it is again:

The edit thing might be a problem because we'd lose a lot of new material (I'm thinking updates to topics like Stylish FPVODs and Day[9] podcasts).


A few more examples that I could think of are Guides in the Strategy section that might be reliant on editing the opening post. For example, the Walling Guides (both Terran and Protoss), updates to any strategy guides (There are a lot of updates spread out over a long time for some of them), Updates to Day[9] Daily OPs (if someone wanted to search up Flash vs Stork and it wasn't indexed...), also the "Guidelines" topics like the 10 Commandments and the SC2 forum guidelines, etc etc... I think it's a rather big problem, but it'll be manageable.
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