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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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November 06 2009 05:53 GMT
#101
On November 06 2009 13:38 Tadzio wrote:
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On November 06 2009 13:19 DJEtterStyle wrote:
And whoosh you've missed the point entirely. First you argue semantics, then you go off on an irrelevant tangent about employees' historical inability to effect change within a corporation, then you talk about boycotts despite me advocating nothing more than consumers acting in their own self interest, then you say that, because I'm not working in the industry, I have no right to comment on its state, and finally you come full circle by again arguing semantics and ignoring my entire post. Bravo, sir. I wish I could say I was impressed. In a way, I guess I am.

I've gotten some great feedback in this thread -- really, I have, and I appreciate those posters who took the time to read my post and reply with thoughtful comments -- but this isn't it.


If I understood your point correctly, it could be summarized as: "Stop bitching. If you don't like it, don't get it. And remember, buy (don't steal) what you like. That's democracy!" In fact, it isn't democracy, so semantics in this case is relevant. The tangent on corporate employees underlined one of the major differences between democracy and plutocracy, so in fact it is relevant. "Voting" with your wallet is the key component to boycotting/buycotting, so discussing that is also relevant.

Telling you to stfu if you don't work in the industry was ironic. Though I probably should've suggested that you refuse to pay your internet service provider since they give you access to PC Gamer's whiny screeds. That would've been more on point.


I'm in general agreement with this; the 'semantics' are relevant.
I just have to say that democracy is based in equality whilst capitalism is founded upon the very principle of inequality.
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Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 06 2009 17:40 GMT
#102
On November 06 2009 13:19 DJEtterStyle wrote:
And whoosh you've missed the point entirely. First you argue semantics, then you go off on an irrelevant tangent about employees' historical inability to effect change within a corporation, then you talk about boycotts despite me advocating nothing more than consumers acting in their own self interest, then you say that, because I'm not working in the industry, I have no right to comment on its state, and finally you come full circle by again arguing semantics and ignoring my entire post. Bravo, sir. I wish I could say I was impressed. In a way, I guess I am.

I've gotten some great feedback in this thread -- really, I have, and I appreciate those posters who took the time to read my post and reply with thoughtful comments -- but this isn't it.

Actually, he does have a point. To call those bitching about the state of gaming as it is right now undemocratic or uncapitalistic is just wrong: public exchange of ideas is in some way or another built into both systems. People have every right to express their feelings about the state of the market with words rather than dollars, and from the point of view of the developer, real feedback is more useful than purchase decisions. The latter are entirely binary: they tell the developer whether or not they will buy a product. The former actually gives a sense of people's preferences. It's free market research, as Tadzio pointed out. There's no reason the industry should be against open complaint against unsatisfactory product, and there's no reason you should be either.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
November 13 2009 23:25 GMT
#103
It amazes me how people can care so much about other peoples opinions on something
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
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