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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 29 2009 17:16 GMT
#1
Well, a friend of mine sent me this website on a new shaving razor that's meant for guys to shave everywhere. God the video was hilarious.

http://www.shaveeverywhere.com/index_bg.html
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
September 29 2009 17:29 GMT
#2
That commercial is awesome. I'd get one.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
September 29 2009 17:34 GMT
#3
Ha! I should buy one for Machine.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 29 2009 17:34 GMT
#4
HOly crap... check out the menus! The explanations on how to use it and everything! hahaha this is so awesome
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 17:50:06
September 29 2009 17:46 GMT
#5
I'm sold on this. Definitely check out the videos on the menu, sooooooo hilarious.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 29 2009 17:48 GMT
#6
haha me 2, im so getting one haha
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
GabrielB
Profile Joined February 2003
Brazil594 Posts
September 29 2009 17:54 GMT
#7
I loved the music video and the optical inch haha
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
September 29 2009 17:57 GMT
#8
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously
Symmetry
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada294 Posts
September 29 2009 17:59 GMT
#9
That was absolutely amazing Thank you so very much for posting this.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 29 2009 18:01 GMT
#10
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously

agreed

trim the bush to make the tree look taller though
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1936 Posts
September 29 2009 18:04 GMT
#11
I wish I had one of these before I started nairing...this will come in handy!
the REAL ReSpOnSe
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
September 29 2009 18:05 GMT
#12
No joke, I was seriously shaving my balls last night wondering... "man someone needs to think of a better way of doing this".
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 18:06:03
September 29 2009 18:05 GMT
#13
Lmao asking him the questions about it are so funny. Especially the one : "women prefer a fully groomed man right?" he just laughs for 30 seconds and then is like yes.

haha also when you don't ask anything. "The longer you wait the longer your pubes grow".

lmao
meow
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
September 29 2009 18:06 GMT
#14
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously


Imo trim things that are getting out of control, the only part of my body I keep shaven are my face and my balls. The rest I trim so it doesn't get out of control.
Postaldude
Profile Joined September 2009
Sweden180 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 18:29:32
September 29 2009 18:27 GMT
#15
On September 30 2009 03:05 Probe. wrote:
Lmao asking him the questions about it are so funny. Especially the one : "women prefer a fully groomed man right?" he just laughs for 30 seconds and then is like yes.

haha also when you don't ask anything. "The longer you wait the longer your pubes grow".

lmao





hahahahahaha this is so epic

omg haha
check the Q: What do you think of using scissors, tweezers or wax to remove body hair?

EDIT: hahaha check the testimonials out
You must construct additional pylons
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 29 2009 23:27 GMT
#16
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously


armpit hair = disgusting. And yes I've asked both sexes.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
September 29 2009 23:31 GMT
#17
On September 30 2009 08:27 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously


armpit hair = disgusting. And yes I've asked both sexes.


You're out of your mind. What was the average age of people you asked? Lots of girls I've talked to say they like hairy men.

Hair = manly = good
Chains none
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
September 29 2009 23:34 GMT
#18
On September 30 2009 08:27 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously


armpit hair = disgusting. And yes I've asked both sexes.

?

you're disgusting.
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
September 29 2009 23:40 GMT
#19
It's a matter of personal preference of both yourself and the ladies I guess. There's no "wrong" attitude towards body hair.
Reminds me, I need to shave my ass.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 23:41:35
September 29 2009 23:41 GMT
#20
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously

Everyone includes girls?
Administrator
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
September 29 2009 23:42 GMT
#21
Actually I've been on this site before thanks to one of my university classes (economics ftw ).

I forgot the exact name of the website though so I couldn't show it around...thanks for finding it for me!
Complete the cycle!
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
September 29 2009 23:42 GMT
#22
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously


i shave all that.
Tranquility through fluid Motion. GlowBabyGlow.
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
September 29 2009 23:45 GMT
#23
We're moving towards a hairless species. Soon we will permanently leave our monkey ancestry in the past and move forward to a brighter, smoother future.
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
September 29 2009 23:47 GMT
#24
On September 30 2009 08:45 Xusneb wrote:
We're moving towards a hairless species. Soon we will permanently leave our monkey ancestry in the past and move forward to a brighter, smoother future.


True that, Stupid hair needs to learn when it's wanted :D
(5)Twilight Star.scx --------- AdmiralHoth: There was one week when I didn't shave for a month.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 29 2009 23:48 GMT
#25
On September 30 2009 08:45 Xusneb wrote:
We're moving towards a hairless species. Soon we will permanently leave our monkey ancestry in the past and move forward to a brighter, smoother future.

Dear god no
[image loading]
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
September 29 2009 23:52 GMT
#26
Hell, no. I get compliments quite rarely, but I once got a compliment on my eyebrows. I wanna keep those.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 29 2009 23:56 GMT
#27
On September 30 2009 08:41 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously

Everyone includes girls?


guess he likes them all natural
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2662 Posts
September 30 2009 00:14 GMT
#28
I hate having armpit hair, leg hair, torso hair, facial hair and nipple hair (not cool).

I also have to shave my anal beard for medical reasons.

If I'm not being lazy, I shave most of it off.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
September 30 2009 00:15 GMT
#29
On September 30 2009 08:52 Scorch wrote:
Hell, no. I get compliments quite rarely, but I once got a compliment on my eyebrows. I wanna keep those.

Apparently I have eyebrows which naturally look so tidy that I appear metrosexual.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
September 30 2009 00:19 GMT
#30
Hahahaha, amazing. Great advertisement.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 30 2009 00:22 GMT
#31
On September 30 2009 08:34 CrownRoyal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 08:27 Sadistx wrote:
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously


armpit hair = disgusting. And yes I've asked both sexes.

?

you're disgusting.


Uuh, fuck you? It's called basic hygiene. Certainly nothing wrong with it.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
September 30 2009 00:24 GMT
#32
On September 30 2009 09:22 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 08:34 CrownRoyal wrote:
On September 30 2009 08:27 Sadistx wrote:
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously


armpit hair = disgusting. And yes I've asked both sexes.

?

you're disgusting.


Uuh, fuck you? It's called basic hygiene. Certainly nothing wrong with it.

+1

common sense people..
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
GGYouMake
Profile Joined July 2009
United States69 Posts
September 30 2009 00:26 GMT
#33
i shave my genital region my girlfriend likes it better :D ? Wait what did he say!?!?
Im about to drop the hammer, and dispense some indiscriminate justice! - Siege Tank
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
September 30 2009 00:28 GMT
#34
Oh, and to all of you guys talking about armpit hair:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Should-Men-Shave-Their-Armpits?&id=545455
Well, with my newest test product arrival, the Phillips Norelco Body Groom, I decide to take the risk and shave my armpits. Not only to see if it gave my arms a better aspect but also to see if it helped decrease body odor. I have to admit, it was a bit scary putting up the shaver near my arm, but no blood was shed and it was a great help that the Phillips Body Groom is cordless and waterproof.
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
September 30 2009 00:45 GMT
#35
this whole thread is just tmi... lols
ggyo...
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
September 30 2009 00:48 GMT
#36
I shave my legs but it's required as I am a cyclist. I do keep my chest hair and everthing else except my face untuched at the moment.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42656 Posts
September 30 2009 01:10 GMT
#37
My back is actually furry. But whatever, my ex liked it. Called me a bear. :S
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 30 2009 01:18 GMT
#38
I hate fashion... so... freaking... much. It's just 1000 headaches when you listen to a girl talk other girls' fashion.

I'd rather spend my whole life masturbating under a rock than let other people tell me what's attractive.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
September 30 2009 01:36 GMT
#39
On September 30 2009 10:18 Chef wrote:
I hate fashion... so... freaking... much. It's just 1000 headaches when you listen to a girl talk other girls' fashion.

I'd rather spend my whole life masturbating under a rock than let other people tell me what's attractive.

you say that now...
ggyo...
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
September 30 2009 01:37 GMT
#40
On September 30 2009 10:18 Chef wrote:
I hate fashion... so... freaking... much. It's just 1000 headaches when you listen to a girl talk other girls' fashion.

I'd rather spend my whole life masturbating under a rock than let other people tell me what's attractive.


and when you're girlfriend tells you the same thing when she grows out her airmpit hair and has bushier legs than you, you're cool with it right?

go find that rock.
Happiness only real when shared.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
September 30 2009 01:38 GMT
#41
guys don't shave off your hair. hair is good. trim when necessary, but don't get rid of it. you're men for fucks sake.
Happiness only real when shared.
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
September 30 2009 01:42 GMT
#42
Oh damn I'm definitely getting one of these!
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
September 30 2009 01:49 GMT
#43
Yeah guys its not freaky to shave if you must but I don't see any reason why a trim isn't enough.

Gotta be looking neat/groomed but it doesn't mean you have to shave your entire body.

ps. I had to post here because of my sig lol

One think that ticks me off is the awkwardness of trimming the undercarriage.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 01:54:03
September 30 2009 01:52 GMT
#44
On September 30 2009 10:37 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 10:18 Chef wrote:
I hate fashion... so... freaking... much. It's just 1000 headaches when you listen to a girl talk other girls' fashion.

I'd rather spend my whole life masturbating under a rock than let other people tell me what's attractive.


and when you're girlfriend tells you the same thing when she grows out her airmpit hair and has bushier legs than you, you're cool with it right?

go find that rock.

Honestly, as long as she washes, I wouldn't find it repulsive. My point is that in my ideal world, you should search for a partner you already like, not one you want to change. It'd not like I don't obey some fashion or aren't influenced by many things. It's that I don't want to cohere to fashions that I don't personally like and haven't been exposed enough to think it's ideal. I shave my face because I don't like how my facial hair looks. But if someone told me they liked my raggy gross facial hair, why should I conform to that and have to look at a dumbass in the mirror every day?

I'll reiterate, I'm not saying you should find everyone attractive. I'm saying you should find yourself attractive. If everyone else starts cutting holes in their jeans and you find that stupid, you shouldn't feel pressured to do it too. I never started wearing shirts over sweaters when everyone else did, and I'd like to think there was a girl somewhere in the world who agreed sweaters look better on top of clothes.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
September 30 2009 01:56 GMT
#45
On September 30 2009 08:40 Scorch wrote:
It's a matter of personal preference of both yourself and the ladies I guess. There's no "wrong" attitude towards body hair.
Reminds me, I need to shave my ass.

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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
September 30 2009 01:58 GMT
#46
On September 30 2009 10:18 Chef wrote:
I hate fashion... so... freaking... much. It's just 1000 headaches when you listen to a girl talk other girls' fashion.

I'd rather spend my whole life masturbating under a rock than let other people tell me what's attractive.


My virgometer is going off....

My GF likes the hair, but to be honest I think it's kinda ugly. I only shave when I go away on vacation and I am taking off my shirt. I never shaved my ass or my pubes though, lol.

Hows the nair though for that? I saw it on Tool Academy the other night if it's not a hassle I might try it
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
September 30 2009 02:15 GMT
#47
On September 30 2009 10:38 Mora wrote:
guys don't shave off your hair. hair is good. trim when necessary, but don't get rid of it. you're men for fucks sake.


oh my geb it's a woman! on the internet!??
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Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
September 30 2009 02:16 GMT
#48
Omg, reading this thread reminded me of this failed infomercial.

Blah
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
September 30 2009 02:26 GMT
#49
On September 30 2009 11:15 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 10:38 Mora wrote:
guys don't shave off your hair. hair is good. trim when necessary, but don't get rid of it. you're men for fucks sake.


oh my geb it's a woman! on the internet!??


you really don't know?
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 02:37:07
September 30 2009 02:36 GMT
#50
On September 30 2009 11:15 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 10:38 Mora wrote:
guys don't shave off your hair. hair is good. trim when necessary, but don't get rid of it. you're men for fucks sake.


oh my geb it's a woman! on the internet!??




and it also happens that i love giving blowjobs.

in fact, i don't think there is anything in the world i like doing more than giving a blow job.

778-996-2761. call me.

edit - my pic is in my profile. i'm the one on the right.
Happiness only real when shared.
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 02:38:32
September 30 2009 02:37 GMT
#51
On September 30 2009 10:38 Mora wrote:
guys don't shave off your hair. hair is good. trim when necessary, but don't get rid of it. you're men for fucks sake.

Yes but I like girls so why should I follow your advice? J/K

But honestly I do what I like and dont really care about what other people think. Or well I do care when it is about my legs since I dont want to look like some beginner or mtb rider.

EDIT:I did not see your post above me when I wrote this one.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
September 30 2009 02:39 GMT
#52
On September 30 2009 10:52 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 10:37 Mora wrote:
On September 30 2009 10:18 Chef wrote:
I hate fashion... so... freaking... much. It's just 1000 headaches when you listen to a girl talk other girls' fashion.

I'd rather spend my whole life masturbating under a rock than let other people tell me what's attractive.


and when you're girlfriend tells you the same thing when she grows out her airmpit hair and has bushier legs than you, you're cool with it right?

go find that rock.

Honestly, as long as she washes, I wouldn't find it repulsive. My point is that in my ideal world, you should search for a partner you already like, not one you want to change. It'd not like I don't obey some fashion or aren't influenced by many things. It's that I don't want to cohere to fashions that I don't personally like and haven't been exposed enough to think it's ideal. I shave my face because I don't like how my facial hair looks. But if someone told me they liked my raggy gross facial hair, why should I conform to that and have to look at a dumbass in the mirror every day?

I'll reiterate, I'm not saying you should find everyone attractive. I'm saying you should find yourself attractive. If everyone else starts cutting holes in their jeans and you find that stupid, you shouldn't feel pressured to do it too. I never started wearing shirts over sweaters when everyone else did, and I'd like to think there was a girl somewhere in the world who agreed sweaters look better on top of clothes.


fair enough.

honestly, if you're comfortable in your appearance, that's what it's all about. It doesn't mean you have to shave, and it certainly doesn't mean you shouldn't shave. Whatever you find attractive is what you should do.

cheers to you sir for knowing what you like.
Happiness only real when shared.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7227 Posts
September 30 2009 03:03 GMT
#53
On September 30 2009 11:16 Ryoo wrote:
Omg, reading this thread reminded me of this failed infomercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoHMd1yOBfM&feature=related



my feet are gross from golf id be tempted to get that
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Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
September 30 2009 03:04 GMT
#54
On September 30 2009 11:36 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 11:15 mOnion wrote:
On September 30 2009 10:38 Mora wrote:
guys don't shave off your hair. hair is good. trim when necessary, but don't get rid of it. you're men for fucks sake.


oh my geb it's a woman! on the internet!??




and it also happens that i love giving blowjobs.

in fact, i don't think there is anything in the world i like doing more than giving a blow job.

778-996-2761. call me.

edit - my pic is in my profile. i'm the one on the right.


xD

lolololol....Why do I have to be reminded of your blog xD
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42656 Posts
September 30 2009 03:07 GMT
#55
On September 30 2009 11:36 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 11:15 mOnion wrote:
On September 30 2009 10:38 Mora wrote:
guys don't shave off your hair. hair is good. trim when necessary, but don't get rid of it. you're men for fucks sake.


oh my geb it's a woman! on the internet!??




and it also happens that i love giving blowjobs.

in fact, i don't think there is anything in the world i like doing more than giving a blow job.

778-996-2761. call me.

edit - my pic is in my profile. i'm the one on the right.

How do you feel about glory holes? I'm game if you are.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
September 30 2009 03:20 GMT
#56
lol I asked him if he was gay... he said "I will not answer that i'll simply let my *beep* do the talking"
or the "I don't know the answer to that, look i'm no genius I'm just a guy who really wants to talk about his *beep*"
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 30 2009 03:28 GMT
#57
On September 30 2009 08:40 Scorch wrote:
It's a matter of personal preference of both yourself and the ladies I guess. There's no "wrong" attitude towards body hair.
Reminds me, I need to shave my ass.



Tell your GF that she needs to do the same!!! .... lol?
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 30 2009 03:30 GMT
#58
On September 30 2009 11:16 Ryoo wrote:
Omg, reading this thread reminded me of this failed infomercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoHMd1yOBfM&feature=related




Wow thats fucking nasty.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
September 30 2009 03:37 GMT
#59
Lets be honest weve all, at one time or another. shaved all our hair off completely put on girls clothes,makeup and pranced about pirouting,masturbating and the like and this new razor would make doing so all the more easy so im all for it.

wait wot..?
Adonai bless
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42656 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 04:01:32
September 30 2009 03:58 GMT
#60
On September 30 2009 12:37 XeliN wrote:
Lets be honest weve all, at one time or another. shaved all our hair off completely put on girls clothes,makeup and pranced about pirouting,masturbating and the like and this new razor would make doing so all the more easy so im all for it.

wait wot..?

How many of us can honestly say that at one time or another we haven't felt sexually attracted to mice? I know I have.

ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
September 30 2009 04:24 GMT
#61
I was a lonely hairy man, my life was second rate.
From a scale of 1 to 10, my hairy body was a 4.8
I tried scissors, I tried waxing, but that pain is in the past
Now I'm just relaxin', with the philips body grooomm
The convenientsimple and gentle way
The way to make your genitals bloom
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
September 30 2009 04:31 GMT
#62
Yeah this was a pretty funny ad. I clicked around everything to get all the videos and input from this cool dude. My favorite part is when he sits in the chair with his smudgy smile and spread his legs.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 04:34:20
September 30 2009 04:33 GMT
#63
ive shaved everywhere, i like it. I've been doing it since i was about 15-16 (im 19 now.) i keep myself shaven (im not all that hairy, so mainly legs, pubes, armpits and ass,) but i cant grow any chest hair and only have a little bit of hair on my tummy). girls have said they like it smooth and others have said they like the feel of hair rubbing across their skin. but i dont really give a shit what they like or not because its something i like doing for my sake.

ive tried waxing (expensive), that cream that you put on and then rub off with a towel (was ok but expensive also), ive even tried plucking with tweezers (yes ive done this to my pubic hair too - it took fucking AGES) and after all that shaving is probably still the easiest. its fast, cheap and does the job but it doesnt last long (if i want smooth shiny legs i have to shave them at least every 2 days.)

i dont really find hair to be attractive or manly, female gorillas have more chest hair than every single male human on the planet, but i dont consider them more 'manly'
HEY MEYT
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
September 30 2009 04:41 GMT
#64
On September 30 2009 13:33 JohnColtrane wrote:
ive shaved everywhere, i like it. I've been doing it since i was about 15-16 (im 19 now.) i keep myself shaven (im not all that hairy, so mainly legs, pubes, armpits and ass,) but i cant grow any chest hair and only have a little bit of hair on my tummy). girls have said they like it smooth and others have said they like the feel of hair rubbing across their skin. but i dont really give a shit what they like or not because its something i like doing for my sake.

ive tried waxing (expensive), that cream that you put on and then rub off with a towel (was ok but expensive also), ive even tried plucking with tweezers (yes ive done this to my pubic hair too - it took fucking AGES) and after all that shaving is probably still the easiest. its fast, cheap and does the job but it doesnt last long (if i want smooth shiny legs i have to shave them at least every 2 days.)

i dont really find hair to be attractive or manly, female gorillas have more chest hair than every single male human on the planet, but i dont consider them more 'manly'


lmfao
i cant understand these trends unless youre specific form of gay that requires looking like a woman
it sounds so insane to me that you shave your legs to be silky smooth
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
September 30 2009 04:48 GMT
#65
Whats wrong with it? some people like moustaches, some like full beards, i like nothing at all. if you like the look of hair legs, should i laugh and tell you i cant understand why you would want to look like an ape?
HEY MEYT
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
September 30 2009 04:49 GMT
#66
On September 30 2009 13:41 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 13:33 JohnColtrane wrote:
ive shaved everywhere, i like it. I've been doing it since i was about 15-16 (im 19 now.) i keep myself shaven (im not all that hairy, so mainly legs, pubes, armpits and ass,) but i cant grow any chest hair and only have a little bit of hair on my tummy). girls have said they like it smooth and others have said they like the feel of hair rubbing across their skin. but i dont really give a shit what they like or not because its something i like doing for my sake.

ive tried waxing (expensive), that cream that you put on and then rub off with a towel (was ok but expensive also), ive even tried plucking with tweezers (yes ive done this to my pubic hair too - it took fucking AGES) and after all that shaving is probably still the easiest. its fast, cheap and does the job but it doesnt last long (if i want smooth shiny legs i have to shave them at least every 2 days.)

i dont really find hair to be attractive or manly, female gorillas have more chest hair than every single male human on the planet, but i dont consider them more 'manly'


lmfao
i cant understand these trends unless youre specific form of gay that requires looking like a woman
it sounds so insane to me that you shave your legs to be silky smooth

You really think that this has to be indicative of homosexuality?

BTW I found the ad funny.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
September 30 2009 05:51 GMT
#67
In general, hair on men is a good thing. It varies from person to person. Some guys look good with more hair, others don't.

My only advice to the guys here is that you either shave on a very regular basis, or don't at all. After a guy hasn't shaved for about 2 days, his skin takes on the feel of a bunch of razor blades stapled to tree bark. Very abrasive. Either shave consistently to *keep* things smooth, or don't shave at all, because chest-hair-stubble fucking hurts.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
September 30 2009 06:01 GMT
#68
On September 30 2009 13:48 JohnColtrane wrote:
Whats wrong with it? some people like moustaches, some like full beards, i like nothing at all. if you like the look of hair legs, should i laugh and tell you i cant understand why you would want to look like an ape?


You cant compare these because hairy body is natural for males, hairless body isnt. Sounds like you dont have all that much hair on it yet you shave your legs every 2 days. All i said was that I personally dont understand the trend with many people doing this nowadays. Having hair means looking like an ape? Thats a bit of a stretch dont you think? I feel weird when i notice that guy has shaven his legs, no idea why. Guess it ticks me off as feminine? Spots like armpits, groin and back, also trimming chest/stomach is sort of understandable to me. Shaving legs? Probably not yet, I dont think ill change here. If "look like an ape" supposed to be an insult, well shaven legs remind of a frog right off the bat. Why ape anyways, maybe moose?

On September 30 2009 13:49 micronesia wrote:
You really think that this has to be indicative of homosexuality?

BTW I found the ad funny.


Hell no, its an indicative of rotten priorities to me. Trendy, sometimes not very confident people, mostly teenagers, "metrosexuals", etc groups. I mentioned certain kinds of "gay", i dont even know how they go about it these days, some of them into hair, some of them try to look like females
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
September 30 2009 06:01 GMT
#69
On September 30 2009 14:51 Haemonculus wrote:
In general, hair on men is a good thing. It varies from person to person. Some guys look good with more hair, others don't.

My only advice to the guys here is that you either shave on a very regular basis, or don't at all. After a guy hasn't shaved for about 2 days, his skin takes on the feel of a bunch of razor blades stapled to tree bark. Very abrasive. Either shave consistently to *keep* things smooth, or don't shave at all, because chest-hair-stubble fucking hurts.


how about ass and crack hair regrowth?
HEY MEYT
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
September 30 2009 06:02 GMT
#70
On September 30 2009 11:36 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 11:15 mOnion wrote:
On September 30 2009 10:38 Mora wrote:
guys don't shave off your hair. hair is good. trim when necessary, but don't get rid of it. you're men for fucks sake.


oh my geb it's a woman! on the internet!??




and it also happens that i love giving blowjobs.

in fact, i don't think there is anything in the world i like doing more than giving a blow job.

778-996-2761. call me.

edit - my pic is in my profile. i'm the one on the right.


LOLOLOL
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
September 30 2009 06:11 GMT
#71
On September 30 2009 15:01 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 13:48 JohnColtrane wrote:
Whats wrong with it? some people like moustaches, some like full beards, i like nothing at all. if you like the look of hair legs, should i laugh and tell you i cant understand why you would want to look like an ape?


You cant compare these because hairy body is natural for males, hairless body isnt. Sounds like you dont have all that much hair on it yet you shave your legs every 2 days. All i said was that I personally dont understand the trend with many people doing this nowadays. Having hair means looking like an ape? Thats a bit of a stretch dont you think? I feel weird when i notice that guy has shaven his legs, no idea why. Guess it ticks me off as feminine? Spots like armpits, groin and back, also trimming chest/stomach is sort of understandable to me. Shaving legs? Probably not yet, I dont think ill change here. If "look like an ape" supposed to be an insult, well shaven legs remind of a frog right off the bat. Why ape anyways, maybe moose?

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 13:49 micronesia wrote:
You really think that this has to be indicative of homosexuality?

BTW I found the ad funny.


Hell no, its an indicative of rotten priorities to me. Trendy, sometimes not very confident people, mostly teenagers, "metrosexuals", etc groups. I mentioned certain kinds of "gay", i dont even know how they go about it these days, some of them into hair, some of them try to look like females


rotten principles? honestly? =/ I'm trendy because i like doing it? well if its 'feminine' fine, i really dont care at all about that. a good chunk of people i play sport/exercise with do it (males im talking about), and they dont really fit those categories youve chosen

if i didnt shave i would be hairy, maybe not that hairy all over but my legs would be fuzzy for sure. i said every 2 days because thats how long it takes to get decent stubble back. It would still appear from a distance shaven, but from close up noticably stubbly and very rough.

you understand the other stuff, so why not legs? many, many athletes shave their legs (cyclists, swimmers, soccer players etc.) for a variety of reasons, not just because they like it aesthetically. people do it for speed, but also many sports players do it for taping. You ever had to tape a hairy ankle or knee? its not just painful, it just doesnt stick.

i just said ape because they are more related to us than moose are
HEY MEYT
yooh
Profile Joined March 2009
China223 Posts
September 30 2009 13:27 GMT
#72
wooooooooooooowww...
the things yooh guys say... O____O
im gonna try to not read these threads again

"anal beard" and glory holes...?

fyi. back hair is gross and everything else is fine...
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
September 30 2009 13:31 GMT
#73
Wasn't hiloarious, all the beeps were just annoying...
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
September 30 2009 13:32 GMT
#74
On September 30 2009 22:31 Zoler wrote:
Wasn't hiloarious, all the beeps were just annoying...

Those are what made it hilarious.
♞
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
September 30 2009 13:52 GMT
#75
I've had one of these for a while now, it isn't that great, I like the fact that you can use it in the shower. If you want a clean cut, its shit house, it's good as a trimmer if you have like gorilla hair and want to take it down to a light cover I guess. I still prefer a razor for my chest and I trim my pubes with scissors, wouldn't shave that section, need some insulation against the elements.

I haven't tried it but I don't imagine it would be good for your pubes either, I might give it a go and let you guys know.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 30 2009 13:55 GMT
#76
On September 30 2009 13:33 JohnColtrane wrote:
ive shaved everywhere, i like it. I've been doing it since i was about 15-16 (im 19 now.) i keep myself shaven (im not all that hairy, so mainly legs, pubes, armpits and ass,) but i cant grow any chest hair and only have a little bit of hair on my tummy). girls have said they like it smooth and others have said they like the feel of hair rubbing across their skin. but i dont really give a shit what they like or not because its something i like doing for my sake.

ive tried waxing (expensive), that cream that you put on and then rub off with a towel (was ok but expensive also), ive even tried plucking with tweezers (yes ive done this to my pubic hair too - it took fucking AGES) and after all that shaving is probably still the easiest. its fast, cheap and does the job but it doesnt last long (if i want smooth shiny legs i have to shave them at least every 2 days.)

i dont really find hair to be attractive or manly, female gorillas have more chest hair than every single male human on the planet, but i dont consider them more 'manly'


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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
September 30 2009 13:57 GMT
#77
I'll just leave this here.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/9oiug/dear_reddit_how_do_i_shave_my_ass/
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
September 30 2009 14:00 GMT
#78
On September 30 2009 08:41 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2009 02:57 Frits wrote:
shame on everyone who shaves his chest/armpits/legs

seriously

Everyone includes girls?

no.. he said "his"
Entusman #51
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
September 30 2009 14:51 GMT
#79
i personally don't do it (shave chest/arm/armpits/legs), but i don't really care if other men do.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 17:14:02
September 30 2009 17:13 GMT
#80
This thread:
Hairless Wonder

should be combined with this thread hahahaha!

I've shaved my pubes twice for the sake of getting laid.. it felt itchy in a few weeks..
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
September 30 2009 17:33 GMT
#81
I ordered one; I'll let you guys know how it works out on the crotch regions in graphic detail.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 30 2009 17:43 GMT
#82
Seriously, DON'T shave. You will need the hair if you are stranded on an island and have to tie
two turtles together.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 30 2009 17:58 GMT
#83
How this thread made it to page 5 is an awkward mistery to me
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 30 2009 18:07 GMT
#84
hhahahahahahhahahaahhaha this thread is AWSUM.
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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
September 30 2009 18:18 GMT
#85
Best site ever lol.
PlaycaLm
Profile Joined March 2006
United States242 Posts
October 14 2009 08:38 GMT
#86
I have one of these and its ---awesome---

Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 14 2009 09:14 GMT
#87
1 You only have the beard which you are sitting on. Thats how I think of it.
2 I dont dare shaving my balls, afraid to cut a hole
3 I have most hair on the tree, so I dont have to shave balls much
4 Girls with hair on arms isn't gross, as long as they have it under control
5 Men ain't men if they shave underarms / chest. End of it

Can I stop tunnelvisioning now ? :X
In the woods, there lurks..
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
October 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#88
LOL what the hell??????
You have the power to create your own destiny.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
October 14 2009 10:17 GMT
#89
its just a razor yea? don't get consumed by consumerism.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
October 14 2009 10:41 GMT
#90
i trim. no chest or back hair cuz im asian. barely have facial hair though =(
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
PlaycaLm
Profile Joined March 2006
United States242 Posts
October 14 2009 22:42 GMT
#91
thats the beauty of this thing, you can shave your balls without getting cut at all. its so crazy.
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
October 14 2009 23:20 GMT
#92
Haha, how did I know this thing was from Philips?

They have a tendency to make some products really, REALLY bad.
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
October 14 2009 23:27 GMT
#93
On October 15 2009 08:20 Belano wrote:
Haha, how did I know this thing was from Philips?

They have a tendency to make some products really, REALLY bad.

5 friends of mine have it. They all approve lol...
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
MaGnIfIcA
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway2312 Posts
October 15 2009 10:07 GMT
#94
I belive i have this one, or a similar one. Used it to shave my armpits once, worked pretty well.
Wannabe sMB member yo, so spankable-.-v;;
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