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On September 17 2009 19:21 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 19:13 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 18:56 Kwark wrote:On September 17 2009 18:46 piratebay wrote:
the only thing i cant stand is people doing fucked up shit in the name of religion, or because of what their religion is telling them to do
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and when did i start insulting you? is that what you turn to when you cant get a point across? start hurling insults at the other person. should i call you a retard for taking this shit that doesnt affect us at all so dearly to your heart? I didn't insult you. I gave you options. You could admit that your anecdotal evidence was utterly meaningless or you could stand by anecdotal evidence as a judgment against a people and face the consequences, which would be insults. Your call. calling me a backwards american is. before your edit, all your post said was american muslims? i ran with it with no other guidelines set out. Lol. I was parodying your post. You said American Muslims come from a backwards homeland. I pointed out this meant America was backwards. There's a difference between insult and parody. You called yourself a backwards American, I just pointed it out.
the muslim in question said something along the lines of fighting the stereotype that his people were barbaric, i was just restating his statement. oh yeah, they were immigrants so i guess their home country was backwards? you are commenting on something you havent even read about. smart.
*edit* pakistani immigrants in america doesnt equate american muslims. that sir is an insult since there is no correlation that these people are from my country.
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On September 17 2009 19:37 piratebay wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 19:21 Kwark wrote:On September 17 2009 19:13 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 18:56 Kwark wrote:On September 17 2009 18:46 piratebay wrote:
the only thing i cant stand is people doing fucked up shit in the name of religion, or because of what their religion is telling them to do
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and when did i start insulting you? is that what you turn to when you cant get a point across? start hurling insults at the other person. should i call you a retard for taking this shit that doesnt affect us at all so dearly to your heart? I didn't insult you. I gave you options. You could admit that your anecdotal evidence was utterly meaningless or you could stand by anecdotal evidence as a judgment against a people and face the consequences, which would be insults. Your call. calling me a backwards american is. before your edit, all your post said was american muslims? i ran with it with no other guidelines set out. Lol. I was parodying your post. You said American Muslims come from a backwards homeland. I pointed out this meant America was backwards. There's a difference between insult and parody. You called yourself a backwards American, I just pointed it out. cant expect much else from the country probably the most responsible for all the shit in the middle east by imperializing the area for their own good. i wont say the US isnt innocent but our dabbling in the region came much after europe got through antagonizing them with the west. lol taking my sentence out of context to imply an insult. the professor had every right to say what he did, he is correct in saying they could get used to free speech or go back, up to them. freedom of speech, he can say nething he wants. cant expect much though from someone who can only fling insults whether they be stated outright or not.
Yeah well you personally killed off the American Indians and took their land...
Fancy coming back to the adults table and acting like a real person?
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Written bullshit will be exploited, no matter the 100 sentences around.
You wrote something stupid, maybe intentional maybe not, it got called. Welcome to the internet, now stop acting like a little baby.
Btw:
just like how racism doesnt exist over here for black and white relationships. election of obama surely cleared up any arguments that race issues have dissolved into thin air in a span of a couple generations.
Yeah, dream on. The majority of our population is not racist anymore. Saying race is no longer an issue is at least a *little* stretch.
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On September 17 2009 19:50 Velr wrote:Written bullshit will be exploited, no matter the 100 sentences around. You wrote something stupid, maybe intentional maybe not, it got called. Welcome to the internet, now stop acting like a little baby. Btw: Show nested quote +just like how racism doesnt exist over here for black and white relationships. election of obama surely cleared up any arguments that race issues have dissolved into thin air in a span of a couple generations. Yeah, dream on. The majority of our population is not racist anymore. Saying race is no longer an issue is at least a *little* stretch.
majority of your population? wasnt it just a few years back that immigrants in switzerland were complaining of the forced integration that their children were forced through by living there? where do you get the idea that most people aren't racists anymore? how many people have you met and got to know for a fact that they aren't racists at hearts? that is just hopes and dreams, and the reality is people are hell of alot worse than that. we all have prejudices and it wont dissapear in half a century.
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you sure can't get sarcasm even if it hit you in the face for that quote. maybe you moved to switzerland from romania? they are part of the EU too now right
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God’s sake
Well there you have it. I hate religion so much.
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Protesting about freedom of speech, the very right that allows you to protest. I can only laugh.
Nazgul, what is wrong with saying that if you don't like the American values, you are free to leave? It doesn't matter if your family has lived in America for generations, if you don't share the basic values, you don't belong! Some things are cornerstones in modern society, and are just not up for debate.
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On September 17 2009 19:55 piratebay wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 19:50 Velr wrote:Written bullshit will be exploited, no matter the 100 sentences around. You wrote something stupid, maybe intentional maybe not, it got called. Welcome to the internet, now stop acting like a little baby. Btw: just like how racism doesnt exist over here for black and white relationships. election of obama surely cleared up any arguments that race issues have dissolved into thin air in a span of a couple generations. Yeah, dream on. The majority of our population is not racist anymore. Saying race is no longer an issue is at least a *little* stretch. majority of your population? wasnt it just a few years back that immigrants in switzerland were complaining of the forced integration that their children were forced through by living there? where do you get the idea that most people aren't racists anymore? how many people have you met and got to know for a fact that they aren't racists at hearts? that is just hopes and dreams, and the reality is people are hell of alot worse than that. we all have prejudices and it wont dissapear in half a century. *edit* you sure can't get sarcasm even if it hit you in the face for that quote. maybe you moved to switzerland from romania? they are part of the EU too now right
Switzerland isn't in the EU lol.
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On September 17 2009 20:08 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 19:55 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 19:50 Velr wrote:Written bullshit will be exploited, no matter the 100 sentences around. You wrote something stupid, maybe intentional maybe not, it got called. Welcome to the internet, now stop acting like a little baby. Btw: just like how racism doesnt exist over here for black and white relationships. election of obama surely cleared up any arguments that race issues have dissolved into thin air in a span of a couple generations. Yeah, dream on. The majority of our population is not racist anymore. Saying race is no longer an issue is at least a *little* stretch. majority of your population? wasnt it just a few years back that immigrants in switzerland were complaining of the forced integration that their children were forced through by living there? where do you get the idea that most people aren't racists anymore? how many people have you met and got to know for a fact that they aren't racists at hearts? that is just hopes and dreams, and the reality is people are hell of alot worse than that. we all have prejudices and it wont dissapear in half a century. *edit* you sure can't get sarcasm even if it hit you in the face for that quote. maybe you moved to switzerland from romania? they are part of the EU too now right Switzerland isn't in the EU lol.
but they are racist. why else would the UN and amnesty international have an eye out on them for the rise of xenophobia and racism.
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velr stating that the majority of the population not being racists is quite a stretch
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On September 17 2009 19:55 piratebay wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 19:50 Velr wrote:Written bullshit will be exploited, no matter the 100 sentences around. You wrote something stupid, maybe intentional maybe not, it got called. Welcome to the internet, now stop acting like a little baby. Btw: just like how racism doesnt exist over here for black and white relationships. election of obama surely cleared up any arguments that race issues have dissolved into thin air in a span of a couple generations. Yeah, dream on. The majority of your population is not racist anymore. Saying race is no longer an issue is at least a *little* stretch. majority of your population? wasnt it just a few years back that immigrants in switzerland were complaining of the forced integration that their children were forced through by living there? where do you get the idea that most people aren't racists anymore? how many people have you met and got to know for a fact that they aren't racists at hearts? that is just hopes and dreams, and the reality is people are hell of alot worse than that. we all have prejudices and it wont dissapear in half a century. *edit* you sure can't get sarcasm even if it hit you in the face for that quote. maybe you moved to switzerland from romania? they are part of the EU too now right
Was a typo, should mean "YOUR" not "OUR" stupid typo, sorry. I wouldn't say something like that about switzerland, we got our own fair share of *swiss flavored rednecks/hillbillys*.
Switzerland isn't in the EU.
One political party in Switzerland has racial tendencies or at least uses populist messages and fear mongering. Call them right wing republicans (- the church thing) and you get the basic idea.
I don't really know what you mean by *forced* immigration.
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On September 17 2009 20:10 piratebay wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 20:08 Kwark wrote:On September 17 2009 19:55 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 19:50 Velr wrote:Written bullshit will be exploited, no matter the 100 sentences around. You wrote something stupid, maybe intentional maybe not, it got called. Welcome to the internet, now stop acting like a little baby. Btw: just like how racism doesnt exist over here for black and white relationships. election of obama surely cleared up any arguments that race issues have dissolved into thin air in a span of a couple generations. Yeah, dream on. The majority of our population is not racist anymore. Saying race is no longer an issue is at least a *little* stretch. majority of your population? wasnt it just a few years back that immigrants in switzerland were complaining of the forced integration that their children were forced through by living there? where do you get the idea that most people aren't racists anymore? how many people have you met and got to know for a fact that they aren't racists at hearts? that is just hopes and dreams, and the reality is people are hell of alot worse than that. we all have prejudices and it wont dissapear in half a century. *edit* you sure can't get sarcasm even if it hit you in the face for that quote. maybe you moved to switzerland from romania? they are part of the EU too now right Switzerland isn't in the EU lol. but they are racist. why else would the UN and amnesty international have an eye out on them for the rise of xenophobia and racism.
Smoothly glossing over the bit where you display ignorance about the world...
I think you got away with it. Not sure anyone noticed your mistake.
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On September 17 2009 20:11 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 19:55 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 19:50 Velr wrote:Written bullshit will be exploited, no matter the 100 sentences around. You wrote something stupid, maybe intentional maybe not, it got called. Welcome to the internet, now stop acting like a little baby. Btw: just like how racism doesnt exist over here for black and white relationships. election of obama surely cleared up any arguments that race issues have dissolved into thin air in a span of a couple generations. Yeah, dream on. The majority of your population is not racist anymore. Saying race is no longer an issue is at least a *little* stretch. majority of your population? wasnt it just a few years back that immigrants in switzerland were complaining of the forced integration that their children were forced through by living there? where do you get the idea that most people aren't racists anymore? how many people have you met and got to know for a fact that they aren't racists at hearts? that is just hopes and dreams, and the reality is people are hell of alot worse than that. we all have prejudices and it wont dissapear in half a century. *edit* you sure can't get sarcasm even if it hit you in the face for that quote. maybe you moved to switzerland from romania? they are part of the EU too now right Was a typo, should mean "YOUR" not "OUR" stupid typo, sorry. I wouldn't say something like that about switzerland, we got our own fair share of *swiss flavored rednecks/hillbillys*. Switzerland isn't in the EU. One political party in Switzerland has racial tendencies or at least uses populist messages tand fear mongering according to the UN. Call them right wing republicans (- the church thing) and you get the basic idea.
well i stand corrected on the EU factor. i was wrong here.
i was replying to kwarks post about my sarcastic comment regarding racism disappearing in the US. he stated how 60 years ago, europe cleaned up all the antisemitism and i was stating how with our election of obama, racism dissapeared in a shorter amount of time, which is total bullshit on both accounts.
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well that your makes hell of alot more sense than the our. and i think i meant forced integration into your society.
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On September 17 2009 20:12 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 20:10 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 20:08 Kwark wrote:On September 17 2009 19:55 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 19:50 Velr wrote:Written bullshit will be exploited, no matter the 100 sentences around. You wrote something stupid, maybe intentional maybe not, it got called. Welcome to the internet, now stop acting like a little baby. Btw: just like how racism doesnt exist over here for black and white relationships. election of obama surely cleared up any arguments that race issues have dissolved into thin air in a span of a couple generations. Yeah, dream on. The majority of our population is not racist anymore. Saying race is no longer an issue is at least a *little* stretch. majority of your population? wasnt it just a few years back that immigrants in switzerland were complaining of the forced integration that their children were forced through by living there? where do you get the idea that most people aren't racists anymore? how many people have you met and got to know for a fact that they aren't racists at hearts? that is just hopes and dreams, and the reality is people are hell of alot worse than that. we all have prejudices and it wont dissapear in half a century. *edit* you sure can't get sarcasm even if it hit you in the face for that quote. maybe you moved to switzerland from romania? they are part of the EU too now right Switzerland isn't in the EU lol. but they are racist. why else would the UN and amnesty international have an eye out on them for the rise of xenophobia and racism. Smoothly glossing over the bit where you display ignorance about the world... I think you got away with it. Not sure anyone noticed your mistake.
and you claiming i said america was backward home for some american muslims was totally inaccurate since they are immigrants from pakistan, but lets gloss over that too right? it cant be you being so knowledgeable that allowed you to imply incorrectly
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On September 17 2009 20:18 piratebay wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 20:12 Kwark wrote:On September 17 2009 20:10 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 20:08 Kwark wrote:On September 17 2009 19:55 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 19:50 Velr wrote:Written bullshit will be exploited, no matter the 100 sentences around. You wrote something stupid, maybe intentional maybe not, it got called. Welcome to the internet, now stop acting like a little baby. Btw: just like how racism doesnt exist over here for black and white relationships. election of obama surely cleared up any arguments that race issues have dissolved into thin air in a span of a couple generations. Yeah, dream on. The majority of our population is not racist anymore. Saying race is no longer an issue is at least a *little* stretch. majority of your population? wasnt it just a few years back that immigrants in switzerland were complaining of the forced integration that their children were forced through by living there? where do you get the idea that most people aren't racists anymore? how many people have you met and got to know for a fact that they aren't racists at hearts? that is just hopes and dreams, and the reality is people are hell of alot worse than that. we all have prejudices and it wont dissapear in half a century. *edit* you sure can't get sarcasm even if it hit you in the face for that quote. maybe you moved to switzerland from romania? they are part of the EU too now right Switzerland isn't in the EU lol. but they are racist. why else would the UN and amnesty international have an eye out on them for the rise of xenophobia and racism. Smoothly glossing over the bit where you display ignorance about the world... I think you got away with it. Not sure anyone noticed your mistake. and you claiming i said america was backward home for some american muslims was totally inaccurate since they are immigrants from pakistan, but lets gloss over that too right? it cant be you being so knowledgeable that allowed you to imply incorrectly
That was your fault for using a Pakistani to respond to my argument regarding American Muslims. Don't take your mistakes and put them on me. You can't bring a Pakistani up when I'm talking about Americans and then when I don't immediately point it out go "hah, he's not even an American, you lose".
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On September 17 2009 20:33 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 20:18 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 20:12 Kwark wrote:On September 17 2009 20:10 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 20:08 Kwark wrote:On September 17 2009 19:55 piratebay wrote:On September 17 2009 19:50 Velr wrote:Written bullshit will be exploited, no matter the 100 sentences around. You wrote something stupid, maybe intentional maybe not, it got called. Welcome to the internet, now stop acting like a little baby. Btw: just like how racism doesnt exist over here for black and white relationships. election of obama surely cleared up any arguments that race issues have dissolved into thin air in a span of a couple generations. Yeah, dream on. The majority of our population is not racist anymore. Saying race is no longer an issue is at least a *little* stretch. majority of your population? wasnt it just a few years back that immigrants in switzerland were complaining of the forced integration that their children were forced through by living there? where do you get the idea that most people aren't racists anymore? how many people have you met and got to know for a fact that they aren't racists at hearts? that is just hopes and dreams, and the reality is people are hell of alot worse than that. we all have prejudices and it wont dissapear in half a century. *edit* you sure can't get sarcasm even if it hit you in the face for that quote. maybe you moved to switzerland from romania? they are part of the EU too now right Switzerland isn't in the EU lol. but they are racist. why else would the UN and amnesty international have an eye out on them for the rise of xenophobia and racism. Smoothly glossing over the bit where you display ignorance about the world... I think you got away with it. Not sure anyone noticed your mistake. and you claiming i said america was backward home for some american muslims was totally inaccurate since they are immigrants from pakistan, but lets gloss over that too right? it cant be you being so knowledgeable that allowed you to imply incorrectly That was your fault for using a Pakistani to respond to my argument regarding American Muslims. Don't take your mistakes and put them on me. You can't bring a Pakistani up when I'm talking about Americans and then when I don't immediately point it out go "hah, he's not even an American, you lose".
meh, i guess i lost this round
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people who are strongly religious are backwards, no doubt about that. historically speaking, we live in the era of science. why else would the enlightenment be called the enlightenment? the era of religion has passed in the western world, but is still present in many muslim countries cus they never had an enlightenment. In fact, they kind of have the reverse development.
Most arab countries and muslims were pretty tolerant and modern up until Napoleon rolled the Egypts with like half or one-third the troop size of the egyptian armies in the end of the 18th century. The egypts were defeated hard in multiple battles, once napoleon even attacked a stationary army of 18.000 men with his own 6.000 and slaughtered them easily. From that day on, religious leaders proclaimed that their disadvantages and shortcomings in comparison to the west derived from their lack of faith, that allah was punishing them for their 'modern' lifestyle. The religion in muslim countries gradually became a much more important factor from the 18th century to now because of this, thats why they kind of developed in a reverse way to what western society developed concerning influence of religion and support of ratio/science.
That said I think I can justify my opinion that due to lack of education and lack of sane governments, most muslims are backwards. They would need something comparable to the enlightenment to get them up to modern standards. Unfortunately, even muslims who live in western countries are often a little backwards (though not comparable to those in the muslim world) just because of their natural bond to their relatives / countrymen / fellow muslims. The professor brought up a good point. Why dont they protest the many wrongdoings of extremist muslims in their home countries? Why can't they just flat out call them stupid idiots and condemn their actions? Sure, they may do it in private, but I have the feeling its really not one of their major concerns when instead they choose to protest a tasteless cartoon. Until they understand that the problem with Islam lies within and not with the 'intolerant' western culture, they are backwards to me as well.
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Hell I agree with his letter to some degree
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i meant forced integration into your society. i meant forced integration into your society. i meant forced integration into your society.
Yes, I got this. I just never ever heard anything like this before.
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On September 17 2009 14:04 benjammin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2009 12:54 win8282 wrote:On September 17 2009 12:49 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:On September 17 2009 12:48 Sadist wrote:
what?
You obviously havent been to many college campuses in America. You obviously have no idea of the outrage that cartoon caused in the Muslim world. Read that carefully. A cartoon. A cartoon which was published in a reputable western journal. This is very different from islamic extremist terrorist groups who are far removed from the average muslim. The problem with that cartoon was that it was allowed to be published in the first place. Can you even imagine the outrage the U.S. students would bring about if a chinese national journal published a cartoon of them blasting the U.S. with a batch of nukes? Or how about if that journal published a Red soldier(as in a communist soldier) stomping over Jesus and his cross, ripping the bible apart with bullets? PS: I'm a protestan korean living in korea, but I have muslim friends and can't help but feel insulted at your biased and polluted view of muslims ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/XRrFD.jpg) come and get me
Nice cartoon!
Only...
You aren't a nationally renown journal...
So no american would get outraged.
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If people are free to make this kind of cartoons they are also free to protest against it ( if it is done peacefully ).
Anyway i think this professor is a right wing idiot ( comments on France lol ) but those students seem to be quite stupid too. Protesting against a cartoon made in Denmark whereas you live in the US... Good job tools.
But people are free to be stupid and that's fun.
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I have a teacher who has been banned from sending research material to one of internet sites which gathers all materials from physics things (he showed paper which says "you account has been banned). Even page says they accept everything.
That what you get if you interested about cold fusion, ban for life :D. Though that teacher was pretty funny overall.
Other teacher worked NASA in USA, but later when he was almost done he heard that his work is going to be used for cold war purpose. He left USA back to Finland and hide all papers to little cabin. LOL. FBI/CIA wasn't happy. He still has those papers (though outdated nowdays).
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