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Sun Tzu - The Art of War [PDF] - Page 4

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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 01:51:06
September 17 2009 01:49 GMT
#61
The art of war is basically just common sense stuff. Any seasoned BW player will already know and understand many of concepts. Fighting from high ground, importance of seige weaponry, flanking, etc. The better parts of the book come from information such as 'no war without a gain in resource'. because financially war is expensive. There is no way you are going to fight a war with someone if you do not have a monetary gain (be it natural resources,farmland, people/slaves, whatever).
So if you ever heard a politician say the war(s) in the middle east were just to get sadam hussein, or find weapons, or whatever bullshit reason. That is the secondary objective. The primary is gaining the foothold on the oil (and/or allies in the region to share wealth).
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
September 17 2009 01:59 GMT
#62
On September 10 2009 13:48 heyoka wrote:
Its worth reading but yeah its really overrated. Its really more a "philosophy of how to set your mind when you go into battle" than anything but people seem to treat it like it actually has advice on how tactics work or something.

Thanks for the file


this book was nice for stupid kings who after many generations, become totally disconnected with war. it's a good primer. consider it war 101 for political dumbasses.

many of the things in starcraft are too specific for this to be applied.

obviously you don't roll out with 10 vultures to try to kill 20 goons. but in real life 2000 years ago, these things are harder to predict.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
September 17 2009 02:26 GMT
#63
It does not tell me how to counter a DT rush
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
September 17 2009 02:55 GMT
#64
On September 17 2009 10:49 CharlieMurphy wrote:
The art of war is basically just common sense stuff. Any seasoned BW player will already know and understand many of concepts. Fighting from high ground, importance of seige weaponry, flanking, etc. The better parts of the book come from information such as 'no war without a gain in resource'. because financially war is expensive. There is no way you are going to fight a war with someone if you do not have a monetary gain (be it natural resources,farmland, people/slaves, whatever).
So if you ever heard a politician say the war(s) in the middle east were just to get sadam hussein, or find weapons, or whatever bullshit reason. That is the secondary objective. The primary is gaining the foothold on the oil (and/or allies in the region to share wealth).


best post I have read in a while, and this is from an American, I am even more impressed.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4653 Posts
September 17 2009 03:19 GMT
#65
Sun Tzu Art of War is nice philosophy. Many people aren't into the competitive and/or military mindset. It would be a good book for those people. Most of the mistakes people make in life are the very obvious ones, this is just a good and simple reminder.

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