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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 17:10:24
September 02 2009 13:09 GMT
#1
I think it'd be helpful to create a guide. We have the rules outlined in the TL Commandments, but no guide as to how the members of TL behave, as well as jargon that TL members use.

So if we can have suggestions/ questions in this thread I'll gladly update this OP and slowly create a guide to help TL newbies fit into our community better. I don't believe such a page exists on Liquipedia but if this concept works and would work better on Liquipedia I'll be glad to create/update a page there.

TL Guide and Pointers


-Don't sign your posts with your name. We can see your name just fine.

-If you post a thread and it gets closed, there was a good reason for it. Please don't create it again without consent from a Moderator.

-If your account is temporarily banned (tempbanned), don't create a second account to circumvent the ban. TeamLiquid has IP Tracking and will only increase the tempban on your first account.

-Please don't post immature image macros.

-Please don't post "first!" or "second!" responses, etc.

-Please refrain from using "+1" or "this" or "qft" or the like. Each post should have something to add to the discussion.

-If talking about politics, please don't let it turn into a flame war.

-Respect those who moderate and contribute well to TeamLiquid. Respect Konadora or Smix for their translations. Respect Diggity or Klazart for their commentaries. Respect Mani, Chill, Carnac, and FakeSteve for keeping the forums clean and orderly. Without people like them (I've failed to mention so many names) Team Liquid wouldn't be the fun and productive place it is.

-If you wish to be treated like an adult, please post like one.

Slang and Jargon

FE or TLFE: Final Edit (Team Liquid Final Edit)- A series of articles written by the best of the best here on Team Liquid.
FPVOD: First-person video on demand. Often used to show other players how a certain player operates in the first person.
Imba: Short for imbalanced, used to denote when a certain race, unit, or mechanic is not properly balanced as StarCraft should be.
In before close: Also inb4close, inb4, etc. A post that aims to exist before a thread is closed for good reasons. Under no circumstances should this be done on TL.
LR: Live Report Thread. (Rarely Last Romantic. )
Nuke: When a poster is banned, sometimes all of his/her posts will be deleted, or nuked. His/her icon is replaced by a nuke.
Tempban: Temporary ban. Period can be anywhere from a day or two to 90 days. Not a permanent ban, or permaban.
TL;DR: Too long, didn't read. Under no circumstances should this be used on TL.
TLPD: TeamLiquid Progamer Database, a database of known progamers and their records, teams, and matches.
TSLD: TeamLiquid Starleague Database, a database of foreign semi-pro gamers and their matches.
VOD: Video on demand. A video of a pre-recorded match. Many of these are available on TeamLiquid's YouTube Channel.

Also, newbies, feel free to ask questions. Please keep this thread on topic.

LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
September 02 2009 13:14 GMT
#2
* I'm aware it's a bannable offense, but what does in before close mean?

Simply means you managed to post in a thread that would clearly be locked, but you got there before the mods.

* What is an LR thread?

Live Report.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
September 02 2009 13:15 GMT
#3
in before close = someone suspects a particular thread is going to be closed (probably because it's a retarded thread) and thinks it's a good idea to post "in before close" before the thread actually gets closed. hint: not a good idea.

LR thread = live report thread (LRs are pretty bad by now used to be much better)
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
September 02 2009 13:21 GMT
#4
On September 02 2009 22:15 Carnac wrote:
in before close = someone suspects a particular thread is going to be closed (probably because it's a retarded thread) and thinks it's a good idea to post "in before close" before the thread actually gets closed. hint: not a good idea.

LR thread = live report thread (LRs are pretty bad by now used to be much better)

Just out of curiosity what made them better back then and why are they bad now?
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
September 02 2009 13:27 GMT
#5
On September 02 2009 22:15 Carnac wrote:
in before close = someone suspects a particular thread is going to be closed (probably because it's a retarded thread) and thinks it's a good idea to post "in before close" before the thread actually gets closed. hint: not a good idea.

LR thread = live report thread (LRs are pretty bad by now used to be much better)

I used to adore live report threads. I still do some times, but since I got proper broadband internet and the livestreams kick ass, I don't look there as often. Sometimes when I'm low on time I'll skim an LR thread.

I'd think this goes for a lot of people.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
September 02 2009 13:32 GMT
#6
stuff that comes to mind that i don't think is explicitly mentioned anywhere else:

- don't sign your posts every time, we can see your name just fine

- if you post a thread and it gets closed, do not recreate it without consent from a staff member

- if your account gets tempbanned, do not create a new account to circumvent the ban because it will cause the tempban on your first account to be increased

- no retarded image macros

- no responding to threads with "first!" or anything like that
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 02 2009 13:36 GMT
#7
On September 02 2009 22:32 vGl-CoW wrote:
stuff that comes to mind that i don't think is explicitly mentioned anywhere else:

- don't sign your posts every time, we can see your name just fine

- if you post a thread and it gets closed, do not recreate it without consent from a staff member

- if your account gets tempbanned, do not create a new account to circumvent the ban because it will cause the tempban on your first account to be increased

- no retarded image macros

- no responding to threads with "first!" or anything like that


Added, thanks.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
September 02 2009 13:36 GMT
#8
On September 02 2009 22:21 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 22:15 Carnac wrote:
in before close = someone suspects a particular thread is going to be closed (probably because it's a retarded thread) and thinks it's a good idea to post "in before close" before the thread actually gets closed. hint: not a good idea.

LR thread = live report thread (LRs are pretty bad by now used to be much better)

Just out of curiosity what made them better back then and why are they bad now?


Actual Live reporting for people that lacked streams. It's mostly degraded to "OMG LJD GOGOGO" etc.
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
September 02 2009 13:40 GMT
#9
Don't post to reserve a spot in the thread to update later. Just post what you're going to say now or wait to post until you can say what you want to.
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 02 2009 13:48 GMT
#10
On September 02 2009 22:15 Carnac wrote:
in before close = someone suspects a particular thread is going to be closed (probably because it's a retarded thread) and thinks it's a good idea to post "in before close" before the thread actually gets closed. hint: not a good idea.

LR thread = live report thread (LRs are pretty bad by now used to be much better)

They used to be goddamn good when there was no livestream.com available and many people couldn't watch the stream :}
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 02 2009 13:48 GMT
#11
On September 02 2009 22:40 Hurricane wrote:
Don't post to reserve a spot in the thread to update later. Just post what you're going to say now or wait to post until you can say what you want to.


Is that for what I did in the guide thread, or is that supposed to be a rule?
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 13:51:03
September 02 2009 13:49 GMT
#12
On September 02 2009 22:36 Spenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 22:21 Hyde wrote:
On September 02 2009 22:15 Carnac wrote:
in before close = someone suspects a particular thread is going to be closed (probably because it's a retarded thread) and thinks it's a good idea to post "in before close" before the thread actually gets closed. hint: not a good idea.

LR thread = live report thread (LRs are pretty bad by now used to be much better)

Just out of curiosity what made them better back then and why are they bad now?


Actual Live reporting for people that lacked streams. It's mostly degraded to "OMG LJD GOGOGO" etc.

I see, so LR threads use to be cleaner I'm guessing? with only just live report replies?

Edit - I agree with vGI-CoW, I don't know why people sign their posts...
Also don't use TL:DR (too long didn't read)
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
September 02 2009 13:53 GMT
#13
On September 02 2009 22:48 pLaTypu5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 22:40 Hurricane wrote:
Don't post to reserve a spot in the thread to update later. Just post what you're going to say now or wait to post until you can say what you want to.


Is that for what I did in the guide thread, or is that supposed to be a rule?


it's a rule, but it's not what you're doing now

someone would be breaking the rule if they were to come into this thread right now and post something along the lines of "i don't have anything to add right now, but i'll edit some tips into this post later" - this causes needless clutter.
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
September 02 2009 13:58 GMT
#14
Don't insult progamers (or at least try not to)

NEVER insult BOXER
POGGERS
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
September 02 2009 14:25 GMT
#15
Don't quote a post and add as little as "qft", "this.", "lol" or "+1".

Write correct English words (u you, ur your) and make proper use of the apostrophe (its it's, your youre you're, im I'm).
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
September 02 2009 14:30 GMT
#16
On September 02 2009 22:58 konadora wrote:
Don't insult progamers (or at least try not to)

NEVER insult BOXER


In fact, nobody should be insulted (or at least try not to).
Writer
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 14:40:56
September 02 2009 14:40 GMT
#17
I'm going to put my personal pet peeve here

okai ddue u hav no idea wut u r takin abot ok??????? u r stupid noob u cant play dis game also u suck donkey balls n i bet u hav 2 dt rush 2 get 2 D+ in iccup LOL u bad fuk u!Q!!!!!

peace out nigga or shud i say noobgga


This is an english website.
dats racist
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
September 02 2009 14:45 GMT
#18
On September 02 2009 23:30 l10f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 22:58 konadora wrote:
Don't insult progamers (or at least try not to)

NEVER insult BOXER


In fact, nobody should be insulted (or at least try not to).

insulting boxer in any way should result in a temp ban imo
POGGERS
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
September 02 2009 15:21 GMT
#19
On September 02 2009 22:58 konadora wrote:
Don't insult progamers (or at least try not to)

NEVER insult BOXER


Agreed... and also the fact to never insult each other in TL. Especially since I see so much hate and flaming toward each other time to time because they were stupid, ideals didn't mix, etc. I mean justified angry is ok but for such a stupid excuse, no.


That being said, when I first saw this this thread, I thought it was about a guide that's linking to and have an easy navigation to all the other guides that were created in TL. (Such as a quick brief info then link to guides created during the beta contests like guitar playing guide, korean guide, how to make FFPV, etc. making it easier for all of us.) Boy I was dead wrong.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
September 02 2009 15:25 GMT
#20
FE = Final Edits

I used to think people were talking about fast expos completely out of context
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 02 2009 15:27 GMT
#21
avoid talking about politics
otherwise it turns into flame
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 15:44:05
September 02 2009 15:40 GMT
#22
On September 03 2009 00:27 Caller wrote:
avoid talking about politics
otherwise it turns into flame

And avoid Bonjwa/Slump discussions for the same reasons

TLPD = Team Liquid Police Departament Team Liquid Progamer Database, part of site under the Calendar
TLFE = Team Liquid Final Edits, great and huge articles made by certain staff writers
P.S. Add note to LR that it sometimes means Last Romantic, cause i was pretty confused some time ago due to that ;p
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 02 2009 15:56 GMT
#23
I am the current #1 poster, ousting the formerly competing VGI-Cow and yubee. Please include this in your guide so that mortals shake in their boots when they hear my trollboots approaching.
Peace~
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 02 2009 16:07 GMT
#24
On September 03 2009 00:56 fanatacist wrote:
I am the current #1 poster, ousting the formerly competing VGI-Cow and yubee. Please include this in your guide so that mortals shake in their boots when they hear my trollboots approaching.


No need to put into guide. Common sense dictates it.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 16:14:46
September 02 2009 16:14 GMT
#25
[image loading]
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 02 2009 16:20 GMT
#26
vGI-CoW win

lol

(fan is a kick ass poster though)
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 02 2009 16:40 GMT
#27
On September 03 2009 00:56 fanatacist wrote:
I am the current #1 poster, ousting the formerly competing VGI-Cow and yubee. Please include this in your guide so that mortals shake in their boots when they hear my trollboots approaching.
Where are your Blizzcon pictures, kid?

Also, don't call people dumb shit like "kid" and "baby."
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 02 2009 16:44 GMT
#28
Lol nice cow

[image loading]
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 02 2009 16:45 GMT
#29
On September 03 2009 01:40 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2009 00:56 fanatacist wrote:
I am the current #1 poster, ousting the formerly competing VGI-Cow and yubee. Please include this in your guide so that mortals shake in their boots when they hear my trollboots approaching.
Where are your Blizzcon pictures, kid?

Also, don't call people dumb shit like "kid" and "baby."

I'm busy bro

No I can't stop nooooooooooo
Peace~
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
September 02 2009 17:01 GMT
#30
I call people kid all the time.
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
September 02 2009 17:12 GMT
#31
twelve morons found
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 17:48:42
September 02 2009 17:25 GMT
#32
I think this should be called "tips for newcomers" not TL guide lol

Add link to 10 commandments anyways, all "no 1st" etc even if not mentioned there directly are just shorter version of 10 TL commandments in this thread imo

Chill would be probably happy about adding link to Strategy Forum Guidelines thread too

  • If progaming in Korea is news to you go Ultimate Progaming FAQ thread
    http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=75492

  • Try to use search button / liquipedia / google before making thread with questions
    Include what you were able to find in your Original Post - post you start new topic with

  • If you create thread with YouTube link, add (write) more content to it. There is YT thread for lone links... maybe except for example collection of 50 Blizzcon videos.

  • If you want to make thread about something more personal, rather choose new blog entry instead of new thread in general or any other section

    edit
  • Add [Spoiler] tag in thread title and click "[s]" button when you want to reveal match / book / movie / etc results after marking your text to [spoiler] spoiler it[/spoiler]

    (It doesn't work in this post because I used [spoiler] twice and [/spoiler] once)


What the hell am I doing during uni integration trip
wtf srsly o.O
wwww
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 02 2009 17:39 GMT
#33
On September 03 2009 02:25 beetlelisk wrote:
I think this should be called "tips for newcomers" not TL guide lol

Add link to 10 commandments anyways, all "no 1st" etc even if not mentioned there directly are just shorter version of 10 TL commandments in this thread imo

Chill would be probably happy about adding link to Strategy Forum Guidelines thread too

  • If progaming in Korea is news to you go Ultimate Progaming FAQ thread
    http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=75492

  • Try to use search button / liquipedia / google before making thread with questions
    Include what you were able to find in your Original Post - post you start new topic with

  • If you create thread with YouTube link, add (write) more content to it. There is YT thread for lone links... maybe except for example collection of 50 Blizzcon videos.

  • If you want to make thread about something more personal, rather choose new blog entry instead of new thread in general or any other section


What the hell am I doing during uni integration trip
wtf srsly o.O


If more people agree with this I'll begin the slow process of rewriting.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
September 02 2009 17:59 GMT
#34
O me

?!

hi there
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