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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33709 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 18:55:20
February 07 2010 18:50 GMT
#1641
Hail Drogba o_o

Stupid African cup, I wanted Drogba to take scoring title this season T_T
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 19:07:12
February 07 2010 18:55 GMT
#1642
12 for 12 against Arsenal!
Drogba loves the arse

for the scoring title
Rooney - 21 goals - 24apps
Drogba - 17 goals - 20apps

If Rooney can keep his amazing form he definitely deserves it
Making history not reliving it.
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
February 07 2010 21:00 GMT
#1643
Drogba so much better than Rooney. Drogba shows up in big games. Rooney puts in 3 against Wolves and Portsmouth and whoever else doesn't matter.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
February 07 2010 21:14 GMT
#1644
On February 08 2010 06:00 Fzero wrote:
Drogba so much better than Rooney. Drogba shows up in big games. Rooney puts in 3 against Wolves and Portsmouth and whoever else doesn't matter.


That's actually pretty true now that i think about it. :O
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
February 07 2010 21:37 GMT
#1645
On February 08 2010 06:14 AngryLlama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 06:00 Fzero wrote:
Drogba so much better than Rooney. Drogba shows up in big games. Rooney puts in 3 against Wolves and Portsmouth and whoever else doesn't matter.


That's actually pretty true now that i think about it. :O

Same here haha

Rooney also takes Man U penalties which does make Drogbas stats for the season a bit more impressive
Making history not reliving it.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
February 07 2010 22:35 GMT
#1646
yea but rooney asists more than drogba ,he's not a straight up "9" , more like a second striker
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 22:39:14
February 07 2010 22:38 GMT
#1647
On February 08 2010 07:35 ilj.psa wrote:
yea but rooney asists more than drogba ,he's not a straight up "9" , more like a second striker


yea exactly

i dont think anyone is going to argue that rooney is a better out and out striker than drogba but to say he doesnt "show up" in big matches is a mind boggling statement and makes me wonder if you have watched them at all lately

well, perhaps you've just read the stats summary
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
February 07 2010 22:52 GMT
#1648
What? Rooney doesnt show up in big games? When DOESN'T Rooney show up? Did you see him against Arsenal? The epic league cup semi final against Man City? Even when C. Ronaldo was playing for Man U stats show that they have scored more goals and won more matches when Rooney was playing than they did with Ronaldo. Drogba is class and as a lone front man has a physical edge over Rooney (but only slightly) and probably better in the air but these are horrible statements to make based on half a season of goal scoring stats.

This WC is Rooney's.
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 07 2010 23:00 GMT
#1649
Roma is 16-3 in their last 19 games. And they win even when they play like shit (like against Fiorentina today). Awesome. And at the same time Lazio are failing really hard. :D

Di Natale for the national team please!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 07 2010 23:22 GMT
#1650
Holgerius its so funny every now and then u come up with some italian stuff and no one cares, answers or discuss, yet u keep on doing it

its adorable

xD
hatred outlives the hateful
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
February 07 2010 23:25 GMT
#1651
On February 08 2010 08:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Holgerius its so funny every now and then u come up with some italian stuff and no one cares, answers or discuss, yet u keep on doing it

its adorable

xD


ive decided i like him tbh, hes p cute :3
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
February 08 2010 02:27 GMT
#1652
On February 08 2010 07:52 FireBlast! wrote:
What? Rooney doesnt show up in big games? When DOESN'T Rooney show up? Did you see him against Arsenal? The epic league cup semi final against Man City? Even when C. Ronaldo was playing for Man U stats show that they have scored more goals and won more matches when Rooney was playing than they did with Ronaldo. Drogba is class and as a lone front man has a physical edge over Rooney (but only slightly) and probably better in the air but these are horrible statements to make based on half a season of goal scoring stats.

This WC is Rooney's.


What a surprise. Someone from the UK overrates Rooney.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33709 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 04:28:33
February 08 2010 04:28 GMT
#1653
On February 08 2010 07:52 FireBlast! wrote:
What? Rooney doesnt show up in big games? When DOESN'T Rooney show up? Did you see him against Arsenal? The epic league cup semi final against Man City? Even when C. Ronaldo was playing for Man U stats show that they have scored more goals and won more matches when Rooney was playing than they did with Ronaldo. Drogba is class and as a lone front man has a physical edge over Rooney (but only slightly) and probably better in the air but these are horrible statements to make based on half a season of goal scoring stats.

This WC is Rooney's.


Rooney always runs hard and puts in a big effort long after the rest of his weaker minded teammates have given up...

But you can't really say he gets better as the stage becomes important. My understanding of ManU for the last few years throughout the C.Ronaldo/Rooney era has been that their individual talent gets them through all of the weaker opponents, and their boring English discipline gets them through the hard games. (To be fair, you can say this about quite a few of the top teams)
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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 04:42:53
February 08 2010 04:41 GMT
#1654
On February 08 2010 08:00 Holgerius wrote:
Roma is 16-3 in their last 19 games. And they win even when they play like shit (like against Fiorentina today). Awesome. And at the same time Lazio are failing really hard. :D

Di Natale for the national team please!

roma didn't desrverd that win, pisses me off as a fiorentina supporter :[

btw Di natale isn't already in the national team? ~_~
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
February 08 2010 05:09 GMT
#1655
On February 08 2010 11:27 Fzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 07:52 FireBlast! wrote:
What? Rooney doesnt show up in big games? When DOESN'T Rooney show up? Did you see him against Arsenal? The epic league cup semi final against Man City? Even when C. Ronaldo was playing for Man U stats show that they have scored more goals and won more matches when Rooney was playing than they did with Ronaldo. Drogba is class and as a lone front man has a physical edge over Rooney (but only slightly) and probably better in the air but these are horrible statements to make based on half a season of goal scoring stats.

This WC is Rooney's.


What a surprise. Someone from the UK overrates Rooney.


I'd argue that everyone outside of the UK underrates Rooney.

Actually I'm a die hard gooner (woe is me since 2 weeks ago ) and being Korean I feel absolutely no affinity with the English national team. So it really, really hurts me to say I rate a Man U player (other than Park and Scholes who you cant hate) but this season really shouldnt be the one to put Rooney finally in the spotlight when he's been awesome every season. I do think he's still underrated like he has been such a long time, he's easily on par with Kaka, Messi and Ronaldo.

now to wash my mouth with soap
DIE MAN U DICKHEAD TWATS

Victoria Concordia Crescit
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
February 08 2010 05:25 GMT
#1656
On February 08 2010 13:28 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 07:52 FireBlast! wrote:
What? Rooney doesnt show up in big games? When DOESN'T Rooney show up? Did you see him against Arsenal? The epic league cup semi final against Man City? Even when C. Ronaldo was playing for Man U stats show that they have scored more goals and won more matches when Rooney was playing than they did with Ronaldo. Drogba is class and as a lone front man has a physical edge over Rooney (but only slightly) and probably better in the air but these are horrible statements to make based on half a season of goal scoring stats.

This WC is Rooney's.


Rooney always runs hard and puts in a big effort long after the rest of his weaker minded teammates have given up...

But you can't really say he gets better as the stage becomes important. My understanding of ManU for the last few years throughout the C.Ronaldo/Rooney era has been that their individual talent gets them through all of the weaker opponents, and their boring English discipline gets them through the hard games. (To be fair, you can say this about quite a few of the top teams)


Actually in retrospect I think its hard to judge who a "big stage performer" is. It's all a matter of how you perceive a player.

For example Arshavin was in the spotlight throughout the Euros and carried Zenit to UEFA win, came to Arsenal and scored 4 at Anfield. Earlier this season he scored stunners against Liverpool and Man U away, but the recent weeks he's been anonymous and missed every chance he got against Man U and Chelsea, which probably have been the two most important matches for his club.

Maybe it just comes down to the form a player is in while they play big games? But still I've never seen Rooney go missing in a match and it's hard for him to given his in-built work rate.
Victoria Concordia Crescit
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 08 2010 06:21 GMT
#1657
Drogba single handedly destroyed Arsenal twice this season and maaaaaaaybe have scored more important goals than Rooney. But I don't think it's fair to just say Rooney is overrated and Drogba is better simply because it's so hard to make these kinds of judgments in football. But I do think it's fair to say that Rooney is more important to Utd than Drogba is to Chelsea.

Arsenal really dug their own grave this season. You can say the Van Persie injury was unlucky but they simply did not show up in the important games and would more than occasionally underperform vs much weaker sides. I really don't think Denilson/Walcott/Bendtner and especially Traore are very good. I like Rosicky, Diaby and even Song much more. Eduardo has not been good this year after the leg injury. Almunia is terrible, I don't know why there are not even rumours of Arsenal buying a new goalkeeper. The back four are solid though Clichy has gotten burnt since coming back from injury. Overall they simply lack quality in a lot of places. When Chelsea/Man Utd play narrow vs them, they just don't have the quality to create chances like vs relegation sides.
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
February 08 2010 06:59 GMT
#1658
There's still the slightest of hopes for Arsenal, we have a really easy run of fixtures until the end of season after this month's disgusting onslaught, who knows what Man City, Villa, Liverpool, Tottenham can do to Man U/Chelsea on the right day? And theyre still to meet each other (draw plz x10)

I just hope Wenger signs some players this summer who can make guaranteed impact, five seasons of anticlimax is more than enough. Theres a lot he can do with 40 million this summer (bye Cesc )

Half the Bordeaux team would be nice
Victoria Concordia Crescit
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
February 08 2010 10:57 GMT
#1659
On February 08 2010 15:59 FireBlast! wrote:


Half the Bordeaux team would be nice



I want Alou Diarra to be signed by Real Madrid, so they would build a meat mincing machine out of the three Diarras on their midfield just for the wtf factor.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 08 2010 15:02 GMT
#1660
On February 08 2010 08:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Holgerius its so funny every now and then u come up with some italian stuff and no one cares, answers or discuss, yet u keep on doing it

its adorable

xD

I haven't given up the hope that one day you people will grow enough intellectually to reach my superior level of football appreciation and therefore start comprehending the beauty of the supreme league.

On February 08 2010 13:41 ilj.psa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 08:00 Holgerius wrote:
Roma is 16-3 in their last 19 games. And they win even when they play like shit (like against Fiorentina today). Awesome. And at the same time Lazio are failing really hard. :D

Di Natale for the national team please!

roma didn't desrverd that win, pisses me off as a fiorentina supporter :[

btw Di natale isn't already in the national team? ~_~

Ya, based on the play Fiorentina totally deserved to get 3 points. Football is however, which was (IMO of course) fortunate in this game, not a judgement sport. All that matters is that you score more goals than your opponent. It's a great strenght to be able to get those 1-0 victories despite playing like shit.

Di Natale has been included in the last couple of squads, bu he hasn't been included all the time during Lippi's regime, in Confederations Cup for instance. But when I come to think of it, I believe Di Natale was injured back then. Well, I just hope he's in Lippi's plans for the World Cup. He's fucking brilliant.

On February 08 2010 08:25 uberMatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 08:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Holgerius its so funny every now and then u come up with some italian stuff and no one cares, answers or discuss, yet u keep on doing it

its adorable

xD


ive decided i like him tbh, hes p cute :3

Not everyone hates me, woo hoo! :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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