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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 03:38:29
July 19 2009 03:37 GMT
#821
FL does not have an income tax. The CA tax rate for everything over 1m is 10.3%.

We're just talking state here, federal is the same in both places :-)
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
July 19 2009 08:24 GMT
#822
On July 19 2009 12:05 poor newb wrote:
is it true that odom can end up making more money in miami because of the lack of tax there


It's not as big a difference as it's being made out to be.

By the way, people keep talking about the state tax issue in Texas and Florida. That is not as big a deal as you think — the players are taxed per game at the rates in the states they play. Meaning, when the Heat come and play the Lakers, Wade et al get taxed at California rates. When the Lakers go to Dallas, they get taxed at Texas rates. Basically, to play in a state with no income tax impacts only 50% of your checks, and while there are some savings it’s not as dramatic as some lead to believe.


Link: http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/07/15/odom-summer-league-notes-part-deux/
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 19 2009 13:46 GMT
#823
Pretty sure neither Odom and Ariza cared for money as a first priority, I don't think Buss is going to splurge on either of them and neither did Odom/Ariza. Sure they want to get paid, but they want to stay in LAL too. Their agents on the other hand...don't seem to understand that there is a slow economy out there.
Get it by your hands...
eStoniaNBoY
Profile Joined December 2002
Switzerland439 Posts
July 19 2009 15:50 GMT
#824
All they needed was solidarity from their team leader. I bet Phil would of followed and would of taken less and Lamar would be already signed. No egos would of been hurt and they all would of shown that they care about Lamar being in LA. At the moment the guy probably feels like he is not wanted there. We all would feel like shit if we would be in this situation.

Instead of all taking the weight together they pulled Lamar into this shit and now pretty much show him the finger.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 19 2009 17:22 GMT
#825
On July 20 2009 00:50 eStoniaNBoY wrote:
All they needed was solidarity from their team leader. I bet Phil would of followed and would of taken less and Lamar would be already signed. No egos would of been hurt and they all would of shown that they care about Lamar being in LA. At the moment the guy probably feels like he is not wanted there. We all would feel like shit if we would be in this situation.

Instead of all taking the weight together they pulled Lamar into this shit and now pretty much show him the finger.


You do realize that Phil wouldn't have come back if he didn't get serious dough right? And Odom's agent here (along with Ariza's) are shouldering the blame for their off-season failures, neither one wants to go from a perennial championship contender to lottery land especially one is developing into a quality role player (that is all Ariza will be, a much better Bruce Bowen) and one is getting up in years. It makes no sense for Odom to go to Miami since Riley is pretty much set on developing their young players, he'll be past his prime by the time they come into form, and Wade might jet next summer. Ariza, sweet, your agent got you no more money and landed you on a Tracy-less, Yao-less, Artest-less Rockets, now you'll get exposed for having relatively no offense outside of 3 pointers (he doesn't finish well at all despite all his nice dunks) while relying on others on the floor to create offense for you.
Get it by your hands...
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 19 2009 18:06 GMT
#826
Odom isn't past his prime, he's like 29 lol.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 19 2009 18:30 GMT
#827
On July 20 2009 03:06 Ace wrote:
Odom isn't past his prime, he's like 29 lol.


Read again, he's going to be past his prime by the time Miami's youngsters start contending.
Get it by your hands...
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 19 2009 18:34 GMT
#828
which ones are you referring to? If you mean Beasley and Chalmers they are already going to be at the contention level this season.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 19 2009 18:44 GMT
#829
Beasley and Chalmers are going to be at contention level next season ? what ??? I strongly doubt that.
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 19 2009 19:22 GMT
#830
On July 20 2009 03:44 Xeris wrote:
Beasley and Chalmers are going to be at contention level next season ? what ??? I strongly doubt that.

This right here
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 19 2009 19:45 GMT
#831
On July 20 2009 03:34 Ace wrote:
which ones are you referring to? If you mean Beasley and Chalmers they are already going to be at the contention level this season.


lol? Wade is carrying the team literally right now, neither of the two have shown that the can provide consistent help to him.
Get it by your hands...
eStoniaNBoY
Profile Joined December 2002
Switzerland439 Posts
July 19 2009 19:46 GMT
#832
After all this would Odom be motivated to come off the bench?

It would of been better to the Lakers to settle it all at once without putting one of their players in very shit place. They made the right stuff with Artest getting him in instantly but they should of signed Odom also quickly. With all measures and get it settled.

Phil is interested to get his name in the history books probably. And the contract year was all about his health. He knows Lakers organization all the way up to dating Jeanie Buss so I think he knows that if the Lakers win the championship they get the most money. And some of it will drop to Jackson`s pocket or his and Jeanie`s pocket anyway.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 22:04:17
July 19 2009 21:57 GMT
#833
A friend says:

Hawks > Celtics in this upcoming season playoffs. He says he will bet money. I told him summer isn't over. I am willing to take this bet.

Discuss/Advice.

Edit: I would like nothing better than to see him lose a bet, NBA or not.

What should conditions be if:
A) One of the teams doesn't make playoffs. K in fairness, what if both don't make it - _-v
B) Don't play each other in playoffs.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 19 2009 22:25 GMT
#834
Celtics will buttpound on the Hawks.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 19 2009 22:36 GMT
#835
well... bet is off if they don't play in the playoffs? that's the only viable option.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 19 2009 22:37 GMT
#836
On July 20 2009 04:46 eStoniaNBoY wrote:
After all this would Odom be motivated to come off the bench?

It would of been better to the Lakers to settle it all at once without putting one of their players in very shit place. They made the right stuff with Artest getting him in instantly but they should of signed Odom also quickly. With all measures and get it settled.


They tried to... they offered him $27 million almost immediately after free agency opened up, and he didn't take it.
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
July 20 2009 01:52 GMT
#837
Last time the Hawks played the Celtics they won every of their home games. It is definitely possible that the Hawks improve with the Celtics getting worse, giving the Hawks a chance.

The potential match up I am dreaming about is Cleveland vs Miami, and Cleveland vs Orlando. That's if Wade gets a supporting cast. And vs. Orlando it is interesting to see LB + Shaq vs Dwight + Carter. Shaq vs Dwight should be good based on last season. It'd be awesome if Carter is better than last season, motivated by playing on a contender for the first time.
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b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 11:41:08
July 20 2009 02:10 GMT
#838
On July 19 2009 17:24 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 12:05 poor newb wrote:
is it true that odom can end up making more money in miami because of the lack of tax there


It's not as big a difference as it's being made out to be.

Show nested quote +
By the way, people keep talking about the state tax issue in Texas and Florida. That is not as big a deal as you think — the players are taxed per game at the rates in the states they play. Meaning, when the Heat come and play the Lakers, Wade et al get taxed at California rates. When the Lakers go to Dallas, they get taxed at Texas rates. Basically, to play in a state with no income tax impacts only 50% of your checks, and while there are some savings it’s not as dramatic as some lead to believe.


Link: http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/07/15/odom-summer-league-notes-part-deux/


Florida doesn't get taxed, this means that 40~ games are taxed-free in playing for Miami alone. Whereas if he signed with Lakers, those 40 home games are taxed. Also, Texas doesn't have any taxes, so that's a couple more free games. That's over 50% games that aren't taxed. Someone calculated that if both Lakers and Miami offered 34M, LO will get an additional 3.5M more than Lakers

that article didn't account for home games

On July 20 2009 07:37 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 04:46 eStoniaNBoY wrote:
After all this would Odom be motivated to come off the bench?

It would of been better to the Lakers to settle it all at once without putting one of their players in very shit place. They made the right stuff with Artest getting him in instantly but they should of signed Odom also quickly. With all measures and get it settled.


They tried to... they offered him $27 million almost immediately after free agency opened up, and he didn't take it.


They didn't offer 27M until like 10~ days ago. They were originally offering around 7-8M iirc
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 20 2009 19:47 GMT
#839
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 20 2009 06:57 Ack1027 wrote:
A friend says:

Hawks > Celtics in this upcoming season playoffs. He says he will bet money. I told him summer isn't over. I am willing to take this bet.

Discuss/Advice.

Edit: I would like nothing better than to see him lose a bet, NBA or not.

What should conditions be if:
A) One of the teams doesn't make playoffs. K in fairness, what if both don't make it - _-v
B) Don't play each other in playoffs.


At 1-1 odds take the bet without looking back. Bos is far better, deeper, more experienced and making huge efforts to win NOW.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
72AND10
Profile Joined January 2009
United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 20:13:43
July 20 2009 20:13 GMT
#840
On July 20 2009 06:57 Ack1027 wrote:
A friend says:

Hawks > Celtics in this upcoming season playoffs. He says he will bet money. I told him summer isn't over. I am willing to take this bet.

Discuss/Advice.

Edit: I would like nothing better than to see him lose a bet, NBA or not.

What should conditions be if:
A) One of the teams doesn't make playoffs. K in fairness, what if both don't make it - _-v
B) Don't play each other in playoffs.


I'm sure both parties would want to insure themselves for injuries. I'm talking about starters and possibly 6th men (decide for yourselves which players qualify).

Example: Last summer, a bet was made for which team would win if they played each other in the playoffs - the Bulls or Celtics. Well if you placed your money on the Celtics, here they are going up against a young energized Bulls team without KG. If KG played in that series, I'm almost certain it wouldn't have gone 7 games.

The last thing anyone wants is to lose a bet because the team he or she bet on is missing a key player. Unless you believe that injuries are a part of the game and a risk that should be included when making a bet.
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