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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
September 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#3421
I should probably introduce myself too

well. it's pretty obvious what mine is anyways.. I use this username almost everywhere.. (zhurai)

mouse only here too. and single finger because using the 2nd finger for streams somehow actually messes up my timing for everything...
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 22:03:05
September 06 2012 22:02 GMT
#3422
wanted to play but my rank compared to everyone elses is godawful and it feels like im taking up a spot that someone more competent could be playing with

^ glad to know im not the only one who uses mouse only with 1 finger know i'll probably have to switch to 2 fingers or keyboard at some point but it's interesting to see how far i can get as it is
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
September 06 2012 22:09 GMT
#3423
On September 07 2012 07:02 Denzil wrote:
wanted to play but my rank compared to everyone elses is godawful and it feels like im taking up a spot that someone more competent could be playing with

^ glad to know im not the only one who uses mouse only with 1 finger know i'll probably have to switch to 2 fingers or keyboard at some point but it's interesting to see how far i can get as it is

hmm... I'm currently able to play most hards except for I guess like 190+bpm ones... and can do (relatively) 150 and below bpm for insanes

I can probably do some streams with one finger anyways though.
I'm not too big on getting SS anyways though. I don't even have SS's for easy's ffs (because I get 1-2 random 100's every game) so I can settle for S's... ah well

(I generally get like S for easy, S-A for normals, S-C (generally B though) for hards, and C-B for insanes (I quit out if I have <75% accuracy usually though))
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Tankz123
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark228 Posts
September 06 2012 22:15 GMT
#3424
hmm, i guess it could be fun to play with others as well
my username is "nichlaes" (im not very creative) - tablet zx'er abusing the game yo
McFortran
Profile Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
September 06 2012 22:24 GMT
#3425
I did mouse only for a while. Eventually you'll get to maps that are impossible to single-click fast enough (this was my first map like this), and alternating left/right click is required. The problem I had with this is my mouse would move while doing this, making it very difficult to hit the notes (I did end up beating that song on mouse only, but it took me 1000 tries).

The switch to mouse+keyboard is very easy if you only bother using the keyboard on streams that are too fast to single-click. It's probably better to try to switch entirely to keyboard though. Currently I use left-click on most things, and there are certainly maps that are very difficult for me to do because of this.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 22:31:16
September 06 2012 22:30 GMT
#3426
mouse only is best and makes you badass

source: mochi is mouse only and he's rank 300
+ Show Spoiler +
ranks 1-299 are also mouse only. true story


edit: i got more evidence to support my case. ebacho uses kb and he sux.
Flameling
Profile Joined July 2010
United States413 Posts
September 06 2012 22:40 GMT
#3427
I used mouse only until I realized that my mouse clicks are way too hard to do fast maps.

Zowie Mico underpowered -.-
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 06 2012 22:43 GMT
#3428
On September 07 2012 07:24 McFortran wrote:
I did mouse only for a while. Eventually you'll get to maps that are impossible to single-click fast enough (this was my first map like this), and alternating left/right click is required. The problem I had with this is my mouse would move while doing this, making it very difficult to hit the notes (I did end up beating that song on mouse only, but it took me 1000 tries).

The switch to mouse+keyboard is very easy if you only bother using the keyboard on streams that are too fast to single-click. It's probably better to try to switch entirely to keyboard though. Currently I use left-click on most things, and there are certainly maps that are very difficult for me to do because of this.


the thing is i've tried some mouse keyboard for songs with ridiculous beats but i have no idea what i'm doing

is there a beat to follow or am i just tika takaing as hard as humanly possible while following the beats?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
September 06 2012 22:59 GMT
#3429
It is always better to listen to the beat. While going through the song you should be able to feel out the quarter note tempo while you are playing normally with your mouse and from there feel out the faster 8th and 16th not tempos.

And I have come to the conclusion that click/x still works for me and I actually do get better at it if I play streamy maps. But I don't like stream maps so I never get better at it >.< I don't have any problems with the supposed downsides, I just have the same ones everyone has. Learning what speed to move the mouse at during the stream. Plus I like alternating hands, it feels so cool. It really doesn't matter how you play this game at all.
http://i.imgur.com/IPxgv.png
McFortran
Profile Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
September 06 2012 23:28 GMT
#3430
On September 07 2012 07:43 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:24 McFortran wrote:
I did mouse only for a while. Eventually you'll get to maps that are impossible to single-click fast enough (this was my first map like this), and alternating left/right click is required. The problem I had with this is my mouse would move while doing this, making it very difficult to hit the notes (I did end up beating that song on mouse only, but it took me 1000 tries).

The switch to mouse+keyboard is very easy if you only bother using the keyboard on streams that are too fast to single-click. It's probably better to try to switch entirely to keyboard though. Currently I use left-click on most things, and there are certainly maps that are very difficult for me to do because of this.


the thing is i've tried some mouse keyboard for songs with ridiculous beats but i have no idea what i'm doing

is there a beat to follow or am i just tika takaing as hard as humanly possible while following the beats?


When I was first doing stream maps, I basically just hit z/x as fast as possible, saw how it worked, then adjusted from there. Eventually I learned the timings based on sight (I don't understand rhythm at all, I play almost as well without sound as I do with).

On September 07 2012 07:59 Camail wrote:
And I have come to the conclusion that click/x still works for me and I actually do get better at it if I play streamy maps. But I don't like stream maps so I never get better at it >.< I don't have any problems with the supposed downsides, I just have the same ones everyone has. Learning what speed to move the mouse at during the stream. Plus I like alternating hands, it feels so cool. It really doesn't matter how you play this game at all.


Moving the mouse at the correct speed is the hardest part for me. In particular, the stream maps with larger spacings are very difficult for me. Also, the coolest thing ever is when I take my hand off the keyboard to scratch my nose, and hit a group of fast notes by alternating left/right click.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
September 07 2012 02:06 GMT
#3431
On September 07 2012 08:28 McFortran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:43 Denzil wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:24 McFortran wrote:
I did mouse only for a while. Eventually you'll get to maps that are impossible to single-click fast enough (this was my first map like this), and alternating left/right click is required. The problem I had with this is my mouse would move while doing this, making it very difficult to hit the notes (I did end up beating that song on mouse only, but it took me 1000 tries).

The switch to mouse+keyboard is very easy if you only bother using the keyboard on streams that are too fast to single-click. It's probably better to try to switch entirely to keyboard though. Currently I use left-click on most things, and there are certainly maps that are very difficult for me to do because of this.


the thing is i've tried some mouse keyboard for songs with ridiculous beats but i have no idea what i'm doing

is there a beat to follow or am i just tika takaing as hard as humanly possible while following the beats?


When I was first doing stream maps, I basically just hit z/x as fast as possible, saw how it worked, then adjusted from there. Eventually I learned the timings based on sight (I don't understand rhythm at all, I play almost as well without sound as I do with).

Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:59 Camail wrote:
And I have come to the conclusion that click/x still works for me and I actually do get better at it if I play streamy maps. But I don't like stream maps so I never get better at it >.< I don't have any problems with the supposed downsides, I just have the same ones everyone has. Learning what speed to move the mouse at during the stream. Plus I like alternating hands, it feels so cool. It really doesn't matter how you play this game at all.


Moving the mouse at the correct speed is the hardest part for me. In particular, the stream maps with larger spacings are very difficult for me. Also, the coolest thing ever is when I take my hand off the keyboard to scratch my nose, and hit a group of fast notes by alternating left/right click.


1954 plays - Alex S. - Party With Pinkie [Collab] , you alternated on this right?
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 06:08:08
September 07 2012 06:07 GMT
#3432
Oh wow I was so surprised I was able to FC. I usually suck at maps like this

[image loading]

still didnt get any pp though..
McFortran
Profile Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
September 07 2012 11:49 GMT
#3433
On September 07 2012 11:06 Xafnia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 08:28 McFortran wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:43 Denzil wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:24 McFortran wrote:
I did mouse only for a while. Eventually you'll get to maps that are impossible to single-click fast enough (this was my first map like this), and alternating left/right click is required. The problem I had with this is my mouse would move while doing this, making it very difficult to hit the notes (I did end up beating that song on mouse only, but it took me 1000 tries).

The switch to mouse+keyboard is very easy if you only bother using the keyboard on streams that are too fast to single-click. It's probably better to try to switch entirely to keyboard though. Currently I use left-click on most things, and there are certainly maps that are very difficult for me to do because of this.


the thing is i've tried some mouse keyboard for songs with ridiculous beats but i have no idea what i'm doing

is there a beat to follow or am i just tika takaing as hard as humanly possible while following the beats?


When I was first doing stream maps, I basically just hit z/x as fast as possible, saw how it worked, then adjusted from there. Eventually I learned the timings based on sight (I don't understand rhythm at all, I play almost as well without sound as I do with).

On September 07 2012 07:59 Camail wrote:
And I have come to the conclusion that click/x still works for me and I actually do get better at it if I play streamy maps. But I don't like stream maps so I never get better at it >.< I don't have any problems with the supposed downsides, I just have the same ones everyone has. Learning what speed to move the mouse at during the stream. Plus I like alternating hands, it feels so cool. It really doesn't matter how you play this game at all.


Moving the mouse at the correct speed is the hardest part for me. In particular, the stream maps with larger spacings are very difficult for me. Also, the coolest thing ever is when I take my hand off the keyboard to scratch my nose, and hit a group of fast notes by alternating left/right click.


1954 plays - Alex S. - Party With Pinkie [Collab] , you alternated on this right?


Yes, that also took me about 1000 tries to beat, but then I went for a FC with mouse only. Most of those plays lasted under 10 seconds.
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
September 07 2012 15:58 GMT
#3434
I'm definitely an advocate for the Mouse+ZX style.

I started mouse only, but I found it was really holding me back a lot. I found that having to click the mouse as well as move it with the same hand interfered a lot. Having to use the different sets of muscles I think made it much harder to be precise with the mouse as well as the timing. Also, the fact that you're using the same hand for both means that you cannot mentally separate the operations of moving your hand and clicking. Now, when I made the switch to Mouse+ZX I did get worse for a short time, but I improved quite quickly. Using both hands instead of 1 hand makes things a lot easier. I noticed it in stepmania when I switched from 1 hand to 2 hand styles as well. And anyone with a functioning brain knows 1 hand beatmania is far harder than the standard 2 hand style.

Also, I tried that map you linked McFortran.... That is a perfect example of why every person who produces nightcore should be shot.
Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
September 07 2012 16:45 GMT
#3435
On September 07 2012 20:49 McFortran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 11:06 Xafnia wrote:
On September 07 2012 08:28 McFortran wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:43 Denzil wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:24 McFortran wrote:
I did mouse only for a while. Eventually you'll get to maps that are impossible to single-click fast enough (this was my first map like this), and alternating left/right click is required. The problem I had with this is my mouse would move while doing this, making it very difficult to hit the notes (I did end up beating that song on mouse only, but it took me 1000 tries).

The switch to mouse+keyboard is very easy if you only bother using the keyboard on streams that are too fast to single-click. It's probably better to try to switch entirely to keyboard though. Currently I use left-click on most things, and there are certainly maps that are very difficult for me to do because of this.


the thing is i've tried some mouse keyboard for songs with ridiculous beats but i have no idea what i'm doing

is there a beat to follow or am i just tika takaing as hard as humanly possible while following the beats?


When I was first doing stream maps, I basically just hit z/x as fast as possible, saw how it worked, then adjusted from there. Eventually I learned the timings based on sight (I don't understand rhythm at all, I play almost as well without sound as I do with).

On September 07 2012 07:59 Camail wrote:
And I have come to the conclusion that click/x still works for me and I actually do get better at it if I play streamy maps. But I don't like stream maps so I never get better at it >.< I don't have any problems with the supposed downsides, I just have the same ones everyone has. Learning what speed to move the mouse at during the stream. Plus I like alternating hands, it feels so cool. It really doesn't matter how you play this game at all.


Moving the mouse at the correct speed is the hardest part for me. In particular, the stream maps with larger spacings are very difficult for me. Also, the coolest thing ever is when I take my hand off the keyboard to scratch my nose, and hit a group of fast notes by alternating left/right click.


1954 plays - Alex S. - Party With Pinkie [Collab] , you alternated on this right?


Yes, that also took me about 1000 tries to beat, but then I went for a FC with mouse only. Most of those plays lasted under 10 seconds.


Maybe if it wasn't such a bad map I would play it more...
http://i.imgur.com/IPxgv.png
MegaManEXE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
September 07 2012 16:45 GMT
#3436
cool people use all playstyles at once, everyone else is a nooblord

[image loading]
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4200 Posts
September 07 2012 17:25 GMT
#3437
On September 08 2012 01:45 MegaManEXE wrote:
everyone else is a nooblord

that's me
( ・´ー・`)
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 20:07:30
September 07 2012 20:07 GMT
#3438
On September 08 2012 01:45 Camail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 20:49 McFortran wrote:
On September 07 2012 11:06 Xafnia wrote:
On September 07 2012 08:28 McFortran wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:43 Denzil wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:24 McFortran wrote:
I did mouse only for a while. Eventually you'll get to maps that are impossible to single-click fast enough (this was my first map like this), and alternating left/right click is required. The problem I had with this is my mouse would move while doing this, making it very difficult to hit the notes (I did end up beating that song on mouse only, but it took me 1000 tries).

The switch to mouse+keyboard is very easy if you only bother using the keyboard on streams that are too fast to single-click. It's probably better to try to switch entirely to keyboard though. Currently I use left-click on most things, and there are certainly maps that are very difficult for me to do because of this.


the thing is i've tried some mouse keyboard for songs with ridiculous beats but i have no idea what i'm doing

is there a beat to follow or am i just tika takaing as hard as humanly possible while following the beats?


When I was first doing stream maps, I basically just hit z/x as fast as possible, saw how it worked, then adjusted from there. Eventually I learned the timings based on sight (I don't understand rhythm at all, I play almost as well without sound as I do with).

On September 07 2012 07:59 Camail wrote:
And I have come to the conclusion that click/x still works for me and I actually do get better at it if I play streamy maps. But I don't like stream maps so I never get better at it >.< I don't have any problems with the supposed downsides, I just have the same ones everyone has. Learning what speed to move the mouse at during the stream. Plus I like alternating hands, it feels so cool. It really doesn't matter how you play this game at all.


Moving the mouse at the correct speed is the hardest part for me. In particular, the stream maps with larger spacings are very difficult for me. Also, the coolest thing ever is when I take my hand off the keyboard to scratch my nose, and hit a group of fast notes by alternating left/right click.


1954 plays - Alex S. - Party With Pinkie [Collab] , you alternated on this right?


Yes, that also took me about 1000 tries to beat, but then I went for a FC with mouse only. Most of those plays lasted under 10 seconds.


Maybe if it wasn't such a bad song I would FC it.


FTFY

:D
Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
September 07 2012 20:10 GMT
#3439
Love and tolerate, yo.
http://i.imgur.com/IPxgv.png
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
September 07 2012 22:51 GMT
#3440
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