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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34483 Posts
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
On August 30 2011 04:22 Firebolt145 wrote: it would get sg'd so fast it's funny. New game, see how long you can fly around jita or another trade hub before a suicide gank attempt is made. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34483 Posts
On August 30 2011 04:42 Body_Shield wrote: New game, see how long you can fly around jita or another trade hub before a suicide gank attempt is made. Totally worth 20b. | ||
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psycroptic
Canada115 Posts
anyway, no hard feelings on my end. will find a corp more suited to my charming personality and ravishing hairstyle...thanks for the EvE education and all the other random shit anyone did for me...see you in space. En Taro Tassadar PS. im just waiting my 24 hours out, had to drop roles. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
On August 30 2011 09:25 psycroptic wrote: im dropping corp. i decided i didn't want to stick around anymore after a corp member threatened to petition me for 'botting'. i was indeed petitioned and will probably get my account (my alt) banned. i don't care so much about the account (although it basically has just as many skillpoints as my main), its more the principle. i guess i learned my lesson about admitting things like that...but I didn't expect to get burned by my own corp. if it had been my main account that was actually a part of the corp i would have understood the reaction more. anyway, no hard feelings on my end. will find a corp more suited to my charming personality and ravishing hairstyle...thanks for the EvE education and all the other random shit anyone did for me...see you in space. En Taro Tassadar PS. im just waiting my 24 hours out, had to drop roles. ETT nuuu... that sucks to hear man. Some spiteful people out there, kinda rubs me the wrong way someone would report you for that, dick move imo by them no matter who it was. Was fun kicking it with you on teamspeak even though I haven't been on much lately, if you ever need an EvE favor dont be afraid to hit me up. Be easy. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
If someone in corp reported the somewhat serious transgressions against the EULA that I've performed, and I got banned for it, I would shrug my shoulders and start over. Breaking CCP's rules isn't a sin by any means, but if you get banned for it you shouldn't get annoyed, no matter the circumstances. It's a risk, and getting banned is always a possibility. | ||
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
Are you the type of people to report your neighbor for smoking weed or something too? L A M E | ||
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psycroptic
Canada115 Posts
On August 30 2011 10:00 motbob wrote: shrug my shoulders and start over that is what i am doing On August 30 2011 10:00 motbob wrote: I'm sorry that you cheated and got banned. If you had told me you were botting I might have reported you, too. If someone in corp reported the somewhat serious transgressions against the EULA that I've performed, and I got banned for it, I would shrug my shoulders and start over. Breaking CCP's rules isn't a sin by any means, but if you get banned for it you shouldn't get annoyed, no matter the circumstances. It's a risk, and getting banned is always a possibilities. and this is why im leaving the corp. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
The idea that a tight-knit group shouldn't report each other for crimes ("keep it in the family" "don't air our dirty laundry") has always seemed flawed to me. If a person is a threat to society in some way I have no problem removing that person from society. And your pot analogy is flawed for obvious reasons. If you tell me you are smoking pot of course I will say nothing. If you tell me you are stealing pot from other people I might very well report you. and this is why im leaving the corp. Be more specific, please. Are you leaving because you don't like the fact that I don't agree with what you are doing? Are you leaving because you feel that I should support corpmates in everything they do, even if I see it as morally wrong? | ||
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psycroptic
Canada115 Posts
On August 30 2011 10:18 motbob wrote: My point isn't that we should all report each other on EULA violations (since that wouldn't work out so well for me lol!). My point is that if you do get reported, why are you getting mad? It was a risk you took breaking the EULA. Why does CCP have a rule against botting? It's because it gives people an unfair advantage, causes inflation, etc. That sort of thing rubs me the wrong way, and apparently it rubbed the person who reported Tassadar the wrong way! This is an eventuality that Tassadar should have known was easily possible. The idea that a tight-knit group shouldn't report each other for crimes ("keep it in the family" "don't air our dirty laundry") has always seemed flawed to me. If a person is a threat to society in some way I have no problem removing that person from society. And your pot analogy is flawed for obvious reasons. If you tell me you are smoking pot of course I will say nothing. If you tell me you are stealing pot from other people I might very well report you. but i'm not mad...at all...im just leaving the corporation. you don't have to be mad to leave a corporation, you know. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On August 30 2011 10:21 psycroptic wrote: but i'm not mad...at all...im just leaving the corporation. you don't have to be mad to leave a corporation, you know. Oh. Then, looking back on your previous posts, it looks like you're leaving because of the "principle" of your corpmates ratting on you. Well, I guess that fits. Your corpmate likely acted on principle ("botting is morally wrong") just as you are acting on principle ("betraying corpmates is morally wrong"). Seems like we've got a bunch of principled people in this corp. | ||
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
I don't think hes mad at all that he got caught... I'd be fucking furious if someone in the corp reported me for ANYTHING. I guess that's just my nature, and my trust in the corp im in. These are the ships I fly with and die with etc... why the fuck would they run and tell the "police". One person isn't going to cause inflation. ETT's feelings aside, if anyone in the corp reported me for something, I would out of spite dedicate 100 percent of my allotted assets and time to make their life miserable. Whether that would mean sabotaging their pvp or pve ops, getting them killed, just generally destroying their rep etc. ETT taking the high road here, I'm still disgusted anyone in the corp would rat on another member. "community corp" also known as, home of the snitches, dont trust other people corp? | ||
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TritaN
United States406 Posts
On August 30 2011 10:10 psycroptic wrote: that is what i am doing and this is why im leaving the corp. Well, with the whole "it's EVE" thing, and of course the laughably misguided sense of e-honor that some people have with regards to exploits/botting in video games for personal gain... You had yourself a recipe for disaster by admitting it in GA chat. You shouldn't have really treated this corp as an actual corp - meaning, you know, with a sense of loyalty or anything. Never give anyone else ammo to use against you for no reason. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On August 30 2011 10:29 Pufftrees wrote: You would report someone for stealing trees from others? ahah I don't think hes mad at all that he got caught... I'd be fucking furious if someone in the corp reported me for ANYTHING. I guess that's just my nature, and my trust in the corp im in. These are the ships I fly with and die with etc... why the fuck would they run and tell the "police". One person isn't going to cause inflation. ETT's feelings aside, if anyone in the corp reported me for something, I would out of spite dedicate 100 percent of my allotted assets and time to make their life miserable. Whether that would mean sabotaging their pvp or pve ops, getting them killed, just generally destroying their rep etc. ETT taking the high road here, I'm still disgusted anyone in the corp would rat on another member. "community corp" also known as, home of the snitches, dont trust other people corp? WTF. There are limits to trust in EVE, always. You do not trust just anyone in corp with 10b, you do not trust just anyone with details of EULA violations, you do not even, currently, trust just anyone with basic ops channel access! The trust we extend to one another in this corporation is quite generous and I trust my corpmates with things I would never ever ever EVER trust people with elsewhere in EVE. Billions of isk are bandied about daily. Trade secrets that are worth billions of isk are discussed openly in corp chat. You know this first-hand. However, just because I take liberties with trust in intracorp situations does not mean that the trust extended is limitless! I would never disclose EULA violations publically if it were not necessary. As far as ETT's situation goes, I am saying that when ETT extended an extremely high amount of trust to his corpmate, and was betrayed, that this is not something to become enraged or huffy about! What I am trying to say is that in situations where trust is betrayed, the correct attitude to have is that the entirety of the blame, or close to the entirety, is on the person who extended the trust in the first place. Let me provide an example that makes what I just said less ridiculous. Once, I loaned a 1b CNR to a corpmate. He ran off with it. In that situation, the entirety of the blame was on me -- the person i loaned the CNR to was not an active member either in-game or on TL. It was stupid to extend to him the level of trust that I did. I didn't even ban him from this website when it happened. The trust that is extended to corpmates when assets are lent to them is the same trust that is extended when informing them of EULA violations. | ||
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
I'm just upset if someone whos relatively a veteran in the corp, reported another. If so, fuck that guy. | ||
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Viceorvirtue
United States273 Posts
I dont believe motbob or pufftrees were there when it happened but that was the series of events. It was not just an immediate petition or anything. Heck ETT probably couldve just lied through his teeth and nobody wouldve been the wiser. | ||
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KwarK
United States41963 Posts
On August 30 2011 10:21 psycroptic wrote: but i'm not mad...at all...im just leaving the corporation. you don't have to be mad to leave a corporation, you know. It's a dick move but it's just one guy, not the entire corp. But apparently this is all done. I spend an evening playing sc2 and I miss all the drama. Personally what I would do here is stay in corp and assassinate the guy from time to time (when it didn't get in the way of ops). In fact, smartbombing pirate implants is probably the way I'd go. | ||
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DiracMonopole
United States1555 Posts
Personally what I would do here is stay in corp and assassinate the guy from time to time (when it didn't get in the way of ops). In fact, smartbombing pirate implants is probably the way I'd go. I dont think anyone in the corp uses them, being that we are now null sec sov holders and all. | ||
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JJoNeEightY
United States509 Posts
Whose omens will I kill now? | ||
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