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I used to think I was losing at PvP because I was a bad player, then I realized it was just because I had my guns turned off.
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On August 08 2014 06:27 Shootemup. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 02:50 KwarK wrote:On August 08 2014 01:05 Shootemup. wrote:On August 07 2014 18:39 419 wrote:
if a brawl fight is such that you can literally turn off guns for 30s and have it not tip the balance of the fight there's a chance that it wasn't video-worthy in the first place I think that's a fair assessment, but the way Kwark put his message out there was not really conducive to discussion. The fact that other people can legitimately appreciate that is the problem. You have to wonder how bad a player has to be to literally not notice the fact that their guns aren't firing for 30s. Presumably they're looking at the screen where useful information such as what their ship is doing and how much health the enemy ship has are displayed prominently. If you want to actually convince people on /r/eve that the video is bad (which I assume you do since you posted there) then I would suggest commenting in a less hostile way so you don't just get downvoted. It's sort of like real life in a way. If you go to your coworkers and tell them they are retards for doing x then they will ignore you because you are being a dick. If you tell them "hey, you shouldn't do x for y and z reasons" then they will be more open to your suggestions because you were polite about it.
How do you tell someone their god isn't real while being really nice and diplomatic about it? Oh I'm terribly sorry, sir. You see, we've figured out that natural laws explain every mystery we've come across in the universe. It's so unfortunate, but they also tell us that even if your god exists, he is sitting idly by watching children suffer and be raped by pedophiles - because if he wasn't, his presence would leave an unavoidable measurable and verifiable impact on the environment. I don't mean to offend, but there's no rational reason to accept the existence of this particular god over Othinn or Zeus or Shiva.
It just doesn't work. Some forms of criticism are unavoidably antagonistic in nature. If someone put an EVE video up where you watched them make a sandwich on their webcam while they waited to turn their guns on, it would be funny. But given the context of the situation, it's ridiculous to put something like that in a video trying to demonstrate skillful play, and it's every bit worthy of criticism.
I've gotta say I'm quite turned off by your attitude. For all the criticisms you could throw at KwarK, being brutally honest is one at the very bottom of my list. The world would be a better place without all the slimy pandering and fake friendliness that occurs in "polite" society.
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"No No hes just so good that he stopped shooting to taunt his opponent and started shooting again just in time to kill him while having enough tank to fight any reinforcements. Hes that good guys."
Something someone actually said when I mentioned in in bni jabber when it was linked.
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On August 08 2014 12:10 DefMatrixUltra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 06:27 Shootemup. wrote:On August 08 2014 02:50 KwarK wrote:On August 08 2014 01:05 Shootemup. wrote:On August 07 2014 18:39 419 wrote:
if a brawl fight is such that you can literally turn off guns for 30s and have it not tip the balance of the fight there's a chance that it wasn't video-worthy in the first place I think that's a fair assessment, but the way Kwark put his message out there was not really conducive to discussion. The fact that other people can legitimately appreciate that is the problem. You have to wonder how bad a player has to be to literally not notice the fact that their guns aren't firing for 30s. Presumably they're looking at the screen where useful information such as what their ship is doing and how much health the enemy ship has are displayed prominently. If you want to actually convince people on /r/eve that the video is bad (which I assume you do since you posted there) then I would suggest commenting in a less hostile way so you don't just get downvoted. It's sort of like real life in a way. If you go to your coworkers and tell them they are retards for doing x then they will ignore you because you are being a dick. If you tell them "hey, you shouldn't do x for y and z reasons" then they will be more open to your suggestions because you were polite about it. How do you tell someone their god isn't real while being really nice and diplomatic about it? Oh I'm terribly sorry, sir. You see, we've figured out that natural laws explain every mystery we've come across in the universe. It's so unfortunate, but they also tell us that even if your god exists, he is sitting idly by watching children suffer and be raped by pedophiles - because if he wasn't, his presence would leave an unavoidable measurable and verifiable impact on the environment. I don't mean to offend, but there's no rational reason to accept the existence of this particular god over Othinn or Zeus or Shiva. It just doesn't work. Some forms of criticism are unavoidably antagonistic in nature. If someone put an EVE video up where you watched them make a sandwich on their webcam while they waited to turn their guns on, it would be funny. But given the context of the situation, it's ridiculous to put something like that in a video trying to demonstrate skillful play, and it's every bit worthy of criticism. I've gotta say I'm quite turned off by your attitude. For all the criticisms you could throw at KwarK, being brutally honest is one at the very bottom of my list. The world would be a better place without all the slimy pandering and fake friendliness that occurs in "polite" society.
You can ask Jed, Aeth, Body, or even Kwark if I am super polite and overly friendly, they will tell you I am not. I can be as brutally honest as Kwark, but he was complaining about downvotes on Reddit. My entire point was that having a nicer tone will get you more upvotes. If Kwark wants to keep being brutally honest more power to him, but he should expect downvotes if he keeps doing that.
They have to so they can keep shit posting and memes to a minimum.
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I'm pretty sure KwarK does not expect reddit to like anything he has to say. I think he is just commenting like "ohlook, reddit reddited again".
On a similar note, if we made a pie chart of this thread's posts, I think there might be a "People Are Improbably Stupid" category at 30-40%.
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On August 08 2014 12:40 Shootemup. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 12:10 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On August 08 2014 06:27 Shootemup. wrote:On August 08 2014 02:50 KwarK wrote:On August 08 2014 01:05 Shootemup. wrote:On August 07 2014 18:39 419 wrote:
if a brawl fight is such that you can literally turn off guns for 30s and have it not tip the balance of the fight there's a chance that it wasn't video-worthy in the first place I think that's a fair assessment, but the way Kwark put his message out there was not really conducive to discussion. The fact that other people can legitimately appreciate that is the problem. You have to wonder how bad a player has to be to literally not notice the fact that their guns aren't firing for 30s. Presumably they're looking at the screen where useful information such as what their ship is doing and how much health the enemy ship has are displayed prominently. If you want to actually convince people on /r/eve that the video is bad (which I assume you do since you posted there) then I would suggest commenting in a less hostile way so you don't just get downvoted. It's sort of like real life in a way. If you go to your coworkers and tell them they are retards for doing x then they will ignore you because you are being a dick. If you tell them "hey, you shouldn't do x for y and z reasons" then they will be more open to your suggestions because you were polite about it. How do you tell someone their god isn't real while being really nice and diplomatic about it? Oh I'm terribly sorry, sir. You see, we've figured out that natural laws explain every mystery we've come across in the universe. It's so unfortunate, but they also tell us that even if your god exists, he is sitting idly by watching children suffer and be raped by pedophiles - because if he wasn't, his presence would leave an unavoidable measurable and verifiable impact on the environment. I don't mean to offend, but there's no rational reason to accept the existence of this particular god over Othinn or Zeus or Shiva. It just doesn't work. Some forms of criticism are unavoidably antagonistic in nature. If someone put an EVE video up where you watched them make a sandwich on their webcam while they waited to turn their guns on, it would be funny. But given the context of the situation, it's ridiculous to put something like that in a video trying to demonstrate skillful play, and it's every bit worthy of criticism. I've gotta say I'm quite turned off by your attitude. For all the criticisms you could throw at KwarK, being brutally honest is one at the very bottom of my list. The world would be a better place without all the slimy pandering and fake friendliness that occurs in "polite" society. You can ask Jed, Aeth, Body, or even Kwark if I am super polite and overly friendly, they will tell you I am not. I can be as brutally honest as Kwark, but he was complaining about downvotes on Reddit. My entire point was that having a nicer tone will get you more upvotes. If Kwark wants to keep being brutally honest more power to him, but he should expect downvotes if he keeps doing that. They have to so they can keep shit posting and memes to a minimum.
Ask and ye shall receive!
Once on my birthday Tango told me to eat a bag of shit!
Then on Christmas, the birthday of our dear lord and savior Jesus Christ, Tango told me to go fuck myself.
Needless to say I was very devastated on both occasions.
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On August 09 2014 12:03 s0Li wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2014 12:40 Shootemup. wrote:On August 08 2014 12:10 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On August 08 2014 06:27 Shootemup. wrote:On August 08 2014 02:50 KwarK wrote:On August 08 2014 01:05 Shootemup. wrote:On August 07 2014 18:39 419 wrote:
if a brawl fight is such that you can literally turn off guns for 30s and have it not tip the balance of the fight there's a chance that it wasn't video-worthy in the first place I think that's a fair assessment, but the way Kwark put his message out there was not really conducive to discussion. The fact that other people can legitimately appreciate that is the problem. You have to wonder how bad a player has to be to literally not notice the fact that their guns aren't firing for 30s. Presumably they're looking at the screen where useful information such as what their ship is doing and how much health the enemy ship has are displayed prominently. If you want to actually convince people on /r/eve that the video is bad (which I assume you do since you posted there) then I would suggest commenting in a less hostile way so you don't just get downvoted. It's sort of like real life in a way. If you go to your coworkers and tell them they are retards for doing x then they will ignore you because you are being a dick. If you tell them "hey, you shouldn't do x for y and z reasons" then they will be more open to your suggestions because you were polite about it. How do you tell someone their god isn't real while being really nice and diplomatic about it? Oh I'm terribly sorry, sir. You see, we've figured out that natural laws explain every mystery we've come across in the universe. It's so unfortunate, but they also tell us that even if your god exists, he is sitting idly by watching children suffer and be raped by pedophiles - because if he wasn't, his presence would leave an unavoidable measurable and verifiable impact on the environment. I don't mean to offend, but there's no rational reason to accept the existence of this particular god over Othinn or Zeus or Shiva. It just doesn't work. Some forms of criticism are unavoidably antagonistic in nature. If someone put an EVE video up where you watched them make a sandwich on their webcam while they waited to turn their guns on, it would be funny. But given the context of the situation, it's ridiculous to put something like that in a video trying to demonstrate skillful play, and it's every bit worthy of criticism. I've gotta say I'm quite turned off by your attitude. For all the criticisms you could throw at KwarK, being brutally honest is one at the very bottom of my list. The world would be a better place without all the slimy pandering and fake friendliness that occurs in "polite" society. You can ask Jed, Aeth, Body, or even Kwark if I am super polite and overly friendly, they will tell you I am not. I can be as brutally honest as Kwark, but he was complaining about downvotes on Reddit. My entire point was that having a nicer tone will get you more upvotes. If Kwark wants to keep being brutally honest more power to him, but he should expect downvotes if he keeps doing that. They have to so they can keep shit posting and memes to a minimum. Ask and ye shall receive! Once on my birthday Tango told me to eat a bag of shit! Then on Christmas, the birthday of our dear lord and savior Jesus Christ, Tango told me to go fuck myself. Needless to say I was very devastated on both occasions.
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On August 09 2014 12:19 Body_Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2014 12:03 s0Li wrote:On August 08 2014 12:40 Shootemup. wrote:On August 08 2014 12:10 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On August 08 2014 06:27 Shootemup. wrote:On August 08 2014 02:50 KwarK wrote:On August 08 2014 01:05 Shootemup. wrote:On August 07 2014 18:39 419 wrote:
if a brawl fight is such that you can literally turn off guns for 30s and have it not tip the balance of the fight there's a chance that it wasn't video-worthy in the first place I think that's a fair assessment, but the way Kwark put his message out there was not really conducive to discussion. The fact that other people can legitimately appreciate that is the problem. You have to wonder how bad a player has to be to literally not notice the fact that their guns aren't firing for 30s. Presumably they're looking at the screen where useful information such as what their ship is doing and how much health the enemy ship has are displayed prominently. If you want to actually convince people on /r/eve that the video is bad (which I assume you do since you posted there) then I would suggest commenting in a less hostile way so you don't just get downvoted. It's sort of like real life in a way. If you go to your coworkers and tell them they are retards for doing x then they will ignore you because you are being a dick. If you tell them "hey, you shouldn't do x for y and z reasons" then they will be more open to your suggestions because you were polite about it. How do you tell someone their god isn't real while being really nice and diplomatic about it? Oh I'm terribly sorry, sir. You see, we've figured out that natural laws explain every mystery we've come across in the universe. It's so unfortunate, but they also tell us that even if your god exists, he is sitting idly by watching children suffer and be raped by pedophiles - because if he wasn't, his presence would leave an unavoidable measurable and verifiable impact on the environment. I don't mean to offend, but there's no rational reason to accept the existence of this particular god over Othinn or Zeus or Shiva. It just doesn't work. Some forms of criticism are unavoidably antagonistic in nature. If someone put an EVE video up where you watched them make a sandwich on their webcam while they waited to turn their guns on, it would be funny. But given the context of the situation, it's ridiculous to put something like that in a video trying to demonstrate skillful play, and it's every bit worthy of criticism. I've gotta say I'm quite turned off by your attitude. For all the criticisms you could throw at KwarK, being brutally honest is one at the very bottom of my list. The world would be a better place without all the slimy pandering and fake friendliness that occurs in "polite" society. You can ask Jed, Aeth, Body, or even Kwark if I am super polite and overly friendly, they will tell you I am not. I can be as brutally honest as Kwark, but he was complaining about downvotes on Reddit. My entire point was that having a nicer tone will get you more upvotes. If Kwark wants to keep being brutally honest more power to him, but he should expect downvotes if he keeps doing that. They have to so they can keep shit posting and memes to a minimum. Ask and ye shall receive! Once on my birthday Tango told me to eat a bag of shit! Then on Christmas, the birthday of our dear lord and savior Jesus Christ, Tango told me to go fuck myself. Needless to say I was very devastated on both occasions.
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More harsh words by Tango
Invite tango to a party to participate in some lovely games of dota
"TANGO WANGO is now playing Dota 2. Click here to join.
TANGO WANGO: gonna skip, want to end the dotaing on a good note" - Tango "Shootemup" Wango
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Hey Kwark I think this one is for you.
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United States44361 Posts
Can't afford it yet. Too illiquid.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
I have no idea if that ship is overvalued or not.
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United States44361 Posts
No way of telling what someone would pay for something like that, there is no market history etc. I just forgot to double package my Stain cashout JF. Oops.
http://evepraisal.com/e/3117534
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There are only 4 of them in eve, a trillion ish might actually be under valuing it.
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United States44361 Posts
Plenty of things rarer than that, from corpses of people who quit to large rigged frigs with unusual combinations. Rarity isn't as important as the perception.
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On August 10 2014 17:49 Jaaaaasper wrote:
There are only 4 of them in eve, a trillion ish might actually be under valuing it.
Hence the 2800 PLEX you pay in addition.
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