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Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
February 03 2010 13:08 GMT
#1221
Awes
and for a second I thought the goonies were gone foe good
Dota 3hard5me
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
February 03 2010 13:33 GMT
#1222
On February 03 2010 22:08 Nub4ever wrote:
Awes
and for a second I thought the goonies were gone foe good


Nah, Goonfleet will always stay together because they have something else (Something Awful) that bonds them other than just eve.

It would be like if all the 1000+ posters of TL made an alliance. It wouldn't be destroyed very easily.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
February 04 2010 08:57 GMT
#1223
And it seems EVE has come full circle:

[image loading]


The fact most goons are taking this in stride and making even more fun of themselves sure makes for good entertainment.
Oh, my eSports
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
February 04 2010 09:38 GMT
#1224
On February 03 2010 19:40 Ace wrote:
damn wtf happened? I used to follow this thread but I'm gonna guess GS got wiped out in like...1 month by 2 super alliances?

Wiped out by their own stupidity. Forgot to pay the sov bill, lost control of their system assets, overrun by opportunistic enemy alliances, threw in the towel without much of a fight.
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
Eeevil
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands359 Posts
February 04 2010 22:39 GMT
#1225
Karttoon's post

http://www.kugutsumen.com/content.php?39-goonswarm-breaking-news-update

IT alliance grabs Goon territory. (no wai!)

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20100204.png.

Goons got Delve, jacked off there, flew bombers aand left.
Goons are really bad at Eve.
Dance like a butterfly, sting like an Intercontinental Ballistic Nuclear Missle.
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
February 04 2010 23:09 GMT
#1226
[personal opinion]

Karttoon was always the best. He was the true face of goonery. Mittens was too much of a try-hard, what with all the espionage and waking up in the middle of the night screaming about spies in fridges. But Karttoon reflected the values of a griefer perfectly.

Even though I quit the game a long time ago I still go back and watch videos of battleships smartbombing miners. That was the best way to play the game.

[/personal opinion]
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 05 2010 05:44 GMT
#1227
GoonSwarm is disbanded, the fuck?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
February 05 2010 19:14 GMT
#1228
Wow. I kind of wish I'd kept up with this thread, so I knew how this bomb would affect the whole situation.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 05 2010 19:18 GMT
#1229
IT is now BoB again.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
February 05 2010 19:31 GMT
#1230
On February 06 2010 04:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
IT is now BoB again.


The goon implosion was 1 day off from being exactly a year to the day from the BoB implosion. Sucks kartoon couldn't wait another day lol.
OMG you nasty gurl
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
February 05 2010 19:54 GMT
#1231
On February 04 2010 18:38 number1gog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2010 19:40 Ace wrote:
damn wtf happened? I used to follow this thread but I'm gonna guess GS got wiped out in like...1 month by 2 super alliances?

Wiped out by their own stupidity. Forgot to pay the sov bill, lost control of their system assets, overrun by opportunistic enemy alliances, threw in the towel without much of a fight.


That's completely accurate, but I don't like analyses like this. It's a game who cares :S

Kk.
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
February 05 2010 20:12 GMT
#1232
On February 06 2010 04:54 Kwidowmaker wrote:

That's completely accurate, but I don't like analyses like this. It's a game who cares :S



Internet spaceships r srs bizniz!


ParanoiaDHerO
Profile Joined July 2009
United States183 Posts
February 06 2010 02:34 GMT
#1233
One of the best game reads I've seen in a long time. I wish it would of been further updated.
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
February 06 2010 02:52 GMT
#1234
Throughout the thread we all posted updates on the war. I'd recommend at read-through.
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
February 06 2010 03:08 GMT
#1235
Now that the war is over... Iono whats next? we gonna talk about GBC takin over NC?
Dota 3hard5me
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
February 06 2010 03:30 GMT
#1236
On February 06 2010 05:12 kuresuti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2010 04:54 Kwidowmaker wrote:

That's completely accurate, but I don't like analyses like this. It's a game who cares :S



Internet spaceships r srs bizniz!


I don't get this post are you making a joke or a point? This is literally the dumbest meme ever
Kk.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
February 06 2010 03:57 GMT
#1237
On February 06 2010 04:54 Kwidowmaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2010 18:38 number1gog wrote:
On February 03 2010 19:40 Ace wrote:
damn wtf happened? I used to follow this thread but I'm gonna guess GS got wiped out in like...1 month by 2 super alliances?

Wiped out by their own stupidity. Forgot to pay the sov bill, lost control of their system assets, overrun by opportunistic enemy alliances, threw in the towel without much of a fight.


That's completely accurate, but I don't like analyses like this. It's a game who cares :S



Chess is also a game. Is it wrong to thoroughly analyze possibly one of the best models we have of factors affecting enthusiasm and participation? It's interesting stuff.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 06 2010 04:36 GMT
#1238
On February 06 2010 12:08 Nub4ever wrote:
Now that the war is over... Iono whats next? we gonna talk about GBC takin over NC?


Right now the main fighting ground is providence. CVA + their buddies are getting steamrolled by AAA. CVA was famous for their NRDS (not red dont shoot) policy which allowed newbs to get into a rather safe 0.0 space without having to worry about anything as long as they obey the rules set by CVA.

Few days ago CVA decided to dabble with AAA sov, AAA responded by taking D-G which was the main entrance from their space to cva space. In the battle for D-G cva lost a huge capfleet to the superior AAA forces.

AAA offered CVA to give the system back as long as CVA would stop any aggression towards them (afaik CVA attacked AAA at the same time they got attacked by goons like a year ago? If anyone else got more info here, go for it.)

CVA didn't accept these conditions which made AAA like "k, cu."

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject: Providence thread, 04/02/10

All hostile SBU's dead in every system. No -A- systems threatened at the moment.

9UY is besieged and since downtime the hostiles have not made a play to even move into the system. We are RI'ing other random and somewhat insignificant POS's in order to have something to do while our support fleet ganks small ships moving here and there in providence.

First important timers come out tomorrow.


9UY was CVAs capital, it has fallen without any capital resistance. The remaining people evac'd their assets to highsec as far as possible.


Personally I'm hoping that CVA somehow get's their space back, it was one of the most fun parts of 0.0 to roam in. Their pilots/ratters/FCs simply sucked hard but they got insane numbers for defense with extremely short response times.

RIP CVA. :\
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
February 06 2010 05:09 GMT
#1239
Lol that reminds me back when evol was still in hisec and we kept on raiding CVA space and even it a machariel kill which got us set to red xS funny how they rages when we killed em =\
Dota 3hard5me
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 05:23:21
February 06 2010 05:21 GMT
#1240
On February 06 2010 12:57 Try wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2010 04:54 Kwidowmaker wrote:
On February 04 2010 18:38 number1gog wrote:
On February 03 2010 19:40 Ace wrote:
damn wtf happened? I used to follow this thread but I'm gonna guess GS got wiped out in like...1 month by 2 super alliances?

Wiped out by their own stupidity. Forgot to pay the sov bill, lost control of their system assets, overrun by opportunistic enemy alliances, threw in the towel without much of a fight.


That's completely accurate, but I don't like analyses like this. It's a game who cares :S



Chess is also a game. Is it wrong to thoroughly analyze possibly one of the best models we have of factors affecting enthusiasm and participation? It's interesting stuff.


It's not the analysis I have a problem with - I said it was completely accurate - it's that it feels jingoistic. Now I think I imagined it, but I saw goon resentment in that summary. Please excuse me for that, there's been a lot in the past few pages.

As for your comparison with chess analysis, I don't think any meaningful connection exists. Superficially, yes, we have people who know the game commenting and making predictions. However, there's, I think, three key differences. One, EVE is far more ambiguous and intricate than chess, so it is impossible to take a detailed look at past events. What we are left with is battle reports by vitamin-D deficient jingoists and sov maps. Two, every method of prediction and analysis seems to rely in part on some kind pseudo-psychology, and there is no one with any kind of expertise giving analysis. In my mind the chief populariser for analysis of 0.0 warfare is the Mitanni, and his knowledge of psychology extends as far as 3 books and a college course. Three, there's no objective frame of reference. The only people who know half a shit at the very least about 0.0 politics and warfare are the ones who are engaged in it. Chess analysis is something that comes centuries of tradition of third party analysis, whereas EVE 0.0 analysis is really bad fan-fic
Kk.
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