I think they know about him but there are simply better heroes to fill the role so he doesn't get picked. There are other great heroes that aren't picked too, take hell bringer for example, used to be staple now he's forgotten. The same with soul stealer etc.

Personally, I'd love to see some team man up and pick salforis, slither, hell bringer, soul stealer and lego to go against your typical zephyr + healers push strat which seems to dominate dreamhacks.

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

December 17 2012 01:52 GMT

#33103

Hellbringer was mostly picked a lot because he was a lot stronger back then, he's been nerfed sooo much.

IMO solstice is okay... but not even close to TDL or draconis. She doesn't farm as fast as those carries and she is really weak late when it's day, kinda okay during the night though.

also

yay just hit 1900 ^^

semantics

10040 Posts

December 17 2012 01:52 GMT

#33104

On December 17 2012 08:28 Boblion wrote:
He is a good pub stomper but at the competitive level is kinda garbage tier like bh and Dm tbh :O

edit: or maybe they have to discover him ;D

Pub stompers are always like that ra, zepher etc usually have some sorta decent jungleingability to curb out of bad lanes and just power though a game.

Manit0u

Poland17257 Posts

December 17 2012 06:22 GMT

#33105

On December 17 2012 10:52 Zoler wrote:
Hellbringer was mostly picked a lot because he was a lot stronger back then, he's been nerfed sooo much.

I think he's still decent support. You get long range initiation, magic armor reduction a slow and a nice dot. I agree though that they probably overdid it a bit. Unholy shackles are superb though, much better than his previous channeled AoE slow, removing painful bond is drastic though

AntiGrav1ty

Germany2310 Posts

December 17 2012 14:51 GMT

#33106

Problem with HB is that he needs levels to be effective. His effectiveness in teamfights and his laning pressence are dependant on levels. A low level and low farmed HB is not of much use compared to the other supports. Lvl 2-3 dot or slow are mediocre at best in teamfights. He lacks reliable stun or burst damage.

Even when he was picked alot he was mainly used as solo hero and not as support. Right now you can't possibly solo HB effectively and he's a subpar support. If HB is picked he should not be played as support in my opinion.

Manit0u

Poland17257 Posts

December 17 2012 15:09 GMT

#33107

You could always use him as some awkward suicide. He can heal himself nicely with life void and gets the levels.

AntiGrav1ty

Germany2310 Posts

December 17 2012 15:20 GMT

#33108

As a suicide he's gonna get completely gimped. Hb is gonna get pushed out of the lane or ganked and killed easily. No escape, no stun, very squishy. If he doesn't get the creeps back to his tower he's not gonna get anything.

I could see him run solo shortlane against their suicide or even a duallane. But the question is always if there are better heroes for that job and usally there are a number better options.

Talking about competitive or players of the same (high) level facing each other of course. On low mmr or unorganized games hero balance is completely different anyways. Pretty much anything can work there if played better.

Boblion

France8043 Posts

December 17 2012 15:23 GMT

#33109

I kinda think like AntiGrav1ty. The only good thing about HB is his ult and his 600 range, everything else is below average. Why would you pick him as a suicide when you can get bub, kotf, ws or plague ? All those guys are wayyyyyyyyy better choices.

Manit0u

Poland17257 Posts

December 17 2012 23:25 GMT

#33110

On December 18 2012 00:23 Boblion wrote:
I kinda think like AntiGrav1ty. The only good thing about HB is his ult and his 600 range, everything else is below average. Why would you pick him as a suicide when you can get bub, kotf, ws or plague ? All those guys are wayyyyyyyyy better choices.

Because the chick avatar on HB is awesome

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

December 17 2012 23:39 GMT

#33111

How do you guys feel about HoN getting hacked?

Boblion

France8043 Posts

December 18 2012 00:02 GMT

#33112

I'm really scared to lose my two 1600 free accounts.

Manit0u

Poland17257 Posts

December 18 2012 01:08 GMT

#33113

Meh, the only reason I haven't been jumping through numerous free accounts is because of the elitist feeling my gold shield and plenty alt avatars give me.

Not the end of the world and not very concerned about it. Like I mentioned in the other thread, people who have something to fear from that are well-known players, GMs and other HoN celebrities. I don't believe anyone would go through the trouble of logging into all of the accounts just to see if there's anything valuable there or a way to do something malicious. Easily 90% of the accounts that got their passwords broken are some free accs people used once or twice. If there are any real accounts with stuff of value that have been cracked, you have no real way of knowing which of them would it be in the sea of garbage.

Boblion

France8043 Posts

December 19 2012 21:55 GMT

#33114

I think that the new hero has the potential to break solstice standard of OP.
Discuss.

I also feel that he will make both rally (already kinda useless lol) and moraxus obsolete.