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EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-16 06:55:05
June 16 2007 06:49 GMT
#61
For PC there's no competition:
Baldur's gate 2
Fallout 2

For console:
Final Fantasy Series
Chrono series.

EDIT:
Diablo isn't a true rpg, it's just hack and slash. WC3 has more role playing elements then Diablo and could be easily considered an rpg with some rts game play.
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
June 16 2007 06:52 GMT
#62
real life
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
June 16 2007 06:55 GMT
#63
On June 16 2007 05:13 user39 wrote:
xenogears!
Dendra
Profile Joined July 2006
Croatia801 Posts
June 16 2007 07:03 GMT
#64
meh dunno why ppl put planescape torment as no1, game is 2short, you can pass it in 2days and at one point you can take a look at some crystal ball to start a conversation, endless times, each time conversation ends you gain experience, then you come at "last impossible" boss and kill him because your regeneration rate is beyond his dmg capabilities :D septerra core>planescape torment i think, if we look at original RPG's unlike the classical but godlike good baldur's gate / icewind dale series.
Believing isnt seeing.Seeing is believing,but may not be reality.
Zeto
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2290 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-16 07:10:59
June 16 2007 07:07 GMT
#65
On June 16 2007 15:46 Boblion wrote:
Zeto you made an awesome post. Thanks for the links
I tried netHack but i think it is very too hard ( you cant save if i remember so i think only hardcore players can like this kind of game).

Btw i m wondering if some people think like me that diablo is nearly closer to Hack'n Slash than rpg ?



You're welcome!

In Nethack and most other roguelike games you save if you exit, and you continue when you come back, BUT you can't save during the game, then load it when you die. Most people prefer it that way. Yes it's very hard and very challenging, you only get one life, but I don't think it's such a bad thing since it's no big deal starting over - you learn and still have fun.

As for Diablo... well it is hack'n'slash, so is nethack and roguelikes - they're rpg/action games. The thing is in rpg games the line between rpg and action has been blurred from the start. If you want a pure rpg game you'd probably want to play a pencil and paper dungeons and dragons game

The difference in diablo's hack'n'slash style is that it's all in real time, you walk through a dungeon and click your mouse twice, kill something, keep going until you kill more shit, while in rpgs like baldur's gate and nethack it's turn-based. So yeah just depends how you like it, I personally prefer turn-based since those games generally have more depth to them. You can stop and think about what you want to do and it just makes it more fun since the game pretty much makes you think in more difficult settings. While in Diablo and Diablo2 style of gameplay it's more about action and less about tactics, you just slash through shit without thinking, the most you have to remember to do is drink a fucking potion. Not meant to flame Diablo just speaking the truth, I know many would find turn-based gameplay boring. I think that's why some people might not think of diablo as a real rpg, but it is, you're still a hero fighting monsters through dungeons, it's just done differently by blizzard, and that's why it got so popular.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 16 2007 07:12 GMT
#66
On June 16 2007 10:39 I_are_n00b wrote:
What!?!?!?! Star Ocean: Till the End of Time? Are you kidding me? Great battle system, but everything else was pretty mediocre. Generic storyline, bad voice acting, sub par minigames and lousy 99 floor dungeons as a way to add content -_-. Decent music though.

I think these are probably the best for their generation of games:

CT -> FF7 -> FFX


most rpgs don't even add much or any content when the game is over
i mean the game already had alot of content to start with... if it adds anything I don't understand what u are complaining about.

I thought the story was great. yes the voice acting was bad... but if ur playing an rpg for the voice acting ur a weird guy


and the battle system was fucking amazing.. shouldn't that be the number one concern when choosing a game, anyways?
bumpirate
Profile Joined June 2007
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-16 07:22:07
June 16 2007 07:15 GMT
#67
you dont know lineage? you dont know rpg.
...
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-16 07:30:09
June 16 2007 07:21 GMT
#68
On June 16 2007 16:03 Dendra wrote:
meh dunno why ppl put planescape torment as no1, game is 2short, you can pass it in 2days and at one point you can take a look at some crystal ball to start a conversation, endless times, each time conversation ends you gain experience, then you come at "last impossible" boss and kill him because your regeneration rate is beyond his dmg capabilities :D septerra core>planescape torment i think, if we look at original RPG's unlike the classical but godlike good baldur's gate / icewind dale series.


i think that icewind dale serie are just average/good. Even if it shares the same universe and engine with Baldur's gate ( ubergreat game ) i think the storyline is very weak and it turns in a diablo like which is very sad because the ADD rules + Baldur's Gate engine arent good for hack'n slash imo. I had huge expectations for this game but i was a bit disapointed ( I finished icewindale but i didnt play to icewind dale 2).


For Baldur's gate lovers, there is a mod which allows you to play Baldur's Gate 1 with Baldur's Gate 2 improved engine, higher levels new classes and so on but i dont remember its name T-T.

edit: @zeto i understand your point of view
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
June 16 2007 07:28 GMT
#69
Baldurs Gate 2: Shadow of Amn
that's singelplayer game I have ever played
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5758 Posts
June 16 2007 07:40 GMT
#70
Final Fantasy 7 and Final Fantasy 8!!
Breavman
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden598 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-16 07:45:04
June 16 2007 07:44 GMT
#71
Anyone played Realmz? It's an old turn based RPG, originally for Mac, with simple graphics and no animations at all. But it has a great fighting system and many different scenarios with fun storylines. Some guy made it all on his own and he must have been a genius because I think it beats all "real" games.

Other than that, I have to say the first Baldurs Gate. The second one is good too but I feel too much like a kid in a candy store when playing it, running around and trying to get all cool items. The first one has a better storyline which gives a better sense of adventure and it feels more serious.
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
June 16 2007 08:15 GMT
#72
Final Fantasy VII - unsurpassed console RPG // Xenogears comes close, but is completely different (philosophical elements, religious/system critique).. don't really wanna compare those two.. just teh pure awesomeness and best games you're gonne be playin on console. FFX, VIII in comparison are just soap-bullshit not nearly as classy as VII or XG.
For PC I'd pick Baldur's Gate Shadows of Amn and Plancescape Torment.. the latter havin such a funny/deep storyline that it has even been turned into a book (one commerce and another one fan based.. the fan based is of course better). Planescape unfortunately lacks a bit in gameplay, but if you like lengthy novel-like games, you won't be disappointed.
Haven't played Fallout nor 2 which has been named quite a few times already.. maybe I should check up on that one.
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-16 08:35:18
June 16 2007 08:20 GMT
#73
On June 16 2007 16:21 Boblion wrote:


Hey Wurst...

@Zeto: I also like Nethack but I don't really consider it a RPG (just as Diablo). Nethack for me is some kind of difficult "puzzle game" because you really have to think about your situation, your items, and how to best advance.
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
June 16 2007 08:23 GMT
#74
Nethack was so damn hard...
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-16 08:38:21
June 16 2007 08:36 GMT
#75
On June 16 2007 17:20 Brutalisk wrote:


Hey Wurst...

.


Sry man i'm the KING Wurst. ;D
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
atarianimo
Profile Joined June 2007
United States82 Posts
June 16 2007 08:37 GMT
#76
To me, FF7 is a little overrated and FF8 is a little underrated. I think my favorite RPG of all time was Chrono Trigger, but I haven't really played any of the "western" RPGs (aside from Fable and WC3 )
.kaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
1963 Posts
June 16 2007 10:18 GMT
#77
On June 16 2007 04:22 [IrIs]YellOw wrote:
What is the best RPG game ever in your opinon?

Mine is Star Ocean Till The End of Time. Also Kingdom Hearts, it is a shame that Final Remix didn't release in Europe...


Star Ocean: Second Story >>>>>>>>> Till the end of time
Sorry but it's the truth =/.
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Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
June 16 2007 11:24 GMT
#78
Xenogears. I enjoy FF games, Fallout, and Diablo 2 as well.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
June 16 2007 12:26 GMT
#79
Anyone played Dark Sun: Shattered Lands?

I played that like a billion years ago and just restarted it. I found out that you can max all your stats when creating a char lol talk about imba.
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
June 16 2007 12:29 GMT
#80
On June 16 2007 16:15 bumpirate wrote:
you dont know lineage? you dont know rpg.


Lineage was the shit during open beta. So much things to do on talking island lol. I was so damn happy when I tamed my first doberman. Then it died to some shelob later -_-
When a shelob appears its every man for himself lol. Those were the days.
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