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RunningRyan
Profile Joined October 2016
1 Post
October 26 2016 08:39 GMT
#201
My thoughts as the rest...where and when are these competitive rankings? sounds like fun! :3
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6165 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-26 10:00:44
October 26 2016 10:00 GMT
#202
On October 26 2016 17:31 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 16:49 FaCE_1 wrote:
On October 26 2016 16:34 Salteador Neo wrote:
Arvius is most likely the best. Have been watching his civ 5 stream for a long time. Guy is just a beast at everything turn based. He is 100% the best xcom single player. Also would make a good leader.

I would say FiltyRobots is better but it's hard to argue on the skill in Civiliztion

but I also agree that MGT is currentyl pretty far from being a great player.


I agree its super hard to tell who is better but then again i cant imagine FilthyRobot being better because Arv is just too damn involved. He studies the games until he trivializes them, like he did with xcom long war. He is an aggro player but knows when to simcity too, and always keeps tabs on whats going on with the other players.
Then again im biased because FR is too whiny for me so I stopped watching him. Always complains and never accepts his mistakes. All around solid player tho.
My second fav is Baba. Such a nice guy and still with a casual attitude towards about a game he has more than 4-5k hours in. His style is way different too, he is more passive/simcity/wonderwhoring. Probably wins even more often than Arv.
Yoorus probably fights with FR for the third best player spot in my head. Super aggro player for sure. I think he is russian or very close so poker players can probably relate heh.

Yoorus is from Poland , the master race in Civ 5

n_n
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
October 26 2016 19:13 GMT
#203
On October 26 2016 16:57 MrGameTheory wrote:
I understand Anzleon's Twitch stream just poured in after he just conceded. Welcome guys. Anzleon won his first duel with me, was caught breaking the rules in his second duel when he deleted a unit when he was -14 gold with 0 gold in reserve (https://www.twitch.tv/anzleon/v/97033165 Look at 1:34.22) and he just lost his 3rd duel just now. In the last duel Anzleon agreed to play a larger map so that there could be more building and he had the ability to review all settings before the match started. It is fine and fun to support your favorite streamer, but try to keep the trolling to a minimum. We are here to have a good time and to try and expand competitive civilization. We are only in our 5th day of Civilization VI and there will be plenty of great games to come. Anzleon has 7,000 hours of Civ V and is an amazing player. I look forward to more matches with Anzleon, NQ players, and other passionate players so stay tuned because we are only getting started.


Why are you guys not playing on NQ fruity mod? It prevents any rules issues.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
October 26 2016 19:22 GMT
#204
Who knew Civ could have so much drama, maybe it can be ESPORTS after all.

'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 26 2016 19:53 GMT
#205
this still seems really odd. Don't Civ games take hours to finish? Granted, you could put a timer in place but I dunno, never played the game.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Ellestar
Profile Joined November 2015
Russian Federation6 Posts
October 26 2016 23:22 GMT
#206
On October 26 2016 16:57 MrGameTheory wrote:
I understand Anzleon's Twitch stream just poured in after he just conceded. Welcome guys. Anzleon won his first duel with me, was caught breaking the rules in his second duel when he deleted a unit when he was -14 gold with 0 gold in reserve (https://www.twitch.tv/anzleon/v/97033165 Look at 1:34.22) and he just lost his 3rd duel just now. In the last duel Anzleon agreed to play a larger map so that there could be more building and he had the ability to review all settings before the match started. It is fine and fun to support your favorite streamer, but try to keep the trolling to a minimum. We are here to have a good time and to try and expand competitive civilization. We are only in our 5th day of Civilization VI and there will be plenty of great games to come. Anzleon has 7,000 hours of Civ V and is an amazing player. I look forward to more matches with Anzleon, NQ players, and other passionate players so stay tuned because we are only getting started.

If they were an official ladder games, Anzleon would have had one win and two technical defeats. Unfortunately, they weren't ladder games, so it's two wins and one cancelled game

And seriously, who are you and where you put a real MrGameTheory? Do you use polyjuice potion, and keep the real one in a closet, or something? You were like the biggest proponent of trolling with your cocky attitude in entire Civ 4 community (it was almost real, someone actually believed it's your real personality). And now you're all about "try to keep the trolling to a minimum" and boring stuff like that. Where is all that old fun stuff? You're getting old, man I really enjoyed reading your posts
Knowledge is Power
Ellestar
Profile Joined November 2015
Russian Federation6 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-27 00:05:17
October 26 2016 23:48 GMT
#207
On October 26 2016 14:43 Hidious wrote:
Mr Game Theory is a complete fruad. No one in the nq group has ever heard of this guy. He hasn't played civ 5 in 5 years. He doesn't even stream his games. The achievements he claims he has are all from websites no one has used in forever. The NQ group doesn't even have rankings because they found that rankings in civ just did not work because people would unfairly team up on people and it just made for an unfair gameplay experience. Maybe he was good a long time ago, but they guy only has like 600 hours of civilization 5 gameplay when others have upwards of 4000 +. How can you say he is a legend when he hardly plays the game?

He was a monster in Civ 4. And there was a ladder and a regular tournament back then, see my post #173. So Civ 5 stuff is not even competitive, it doesn't count.

Achievements did happen as far as i know. Actually, noone else even considered such a ridiculous things as playing 1v5 vs ladder players (even if it was a bit easier than it sounds given team mechanics of Civ 4, it is really ridiculous thing to try, let alone actually win it). And MrGameTheory was winning against other top duelists. I didn't like duels, so i don't think we played, or at least i don't remember it (i played less than 10 duels in Civ 4 anyway...), but i know he got some wins against all top ones. Not sure about exact win/losses though.

And yep, some tournament perfomance happened as well, you can check some history here, for example. Another link in post #173
http://www.civplayers.com/index.php?section=smf&board=83.0

Civ 5 was a joke anyway, so playing 600 hours... Wow, that's an achievement by itself, i played only 171 hours. And zero hours MP.

Anyone who watched MGT theory play against Arvius would know that not only is he not one of the best players, he makes rather noobish mistakes. The guy tried to rush someone with warriors.

Cockiness and lack of preparation. Totally what i would have expected from MrGameTheory. He thought he'll autowin by default

And that's a lack of knowledge. Given that game is released several days ago, it's kinda not really surprising, no?

Today he set a duel match to a 6 player landmass thinking Arvius woudn't notice and it worked. Who the hell plays a duel on a 6 player landmass? It's unplayable and he only did it to try to get an advantage being able to settle more land without arvius noticing the map is larger.

Well, it is totally different. If it was a serious match, i would have called it quits (for preparation time) in a starting screen because it does require different strategy, and that requires time...

But i checked a stream, Arvius's mouse cursor was over "small" map size like 3 times when he obviously was checking settings. I guess this time Arvius got cocky and didn't think he will need to plan the strategy so to defeat MrGameTheory. And btw MrGameTheory is known for some crazy fast ICS, so that's exactly what he did this time. Again, no surprises here.

On October 26 2016 14:43 Hidious wrote:Why would you want a guy who isn't even good to be the leader of a competitive team? TL is supposed to be the New England Patriots not the Cleveland Browns.

Actually, MrGameTheory was a leader of a good competitive team in Civ 4.
Knowledge is Power
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1183 Posts
October 26 2016 23:53 GMT
#208
Whoa, I'm gonna have to try and keep up with this scene and learn the game, and also buy it now.
Flash should fear Sacsri
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
October 27 2016 01:44 GMT
#209
Can someone link some sort of standings or grids that MATTER before we call out people as frauds or actually good at the game?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Ellestar
Profile Joined November 2015
Russian Federation6 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-27 09:50:28
October 27 2016 09:48 GMT
#210
On October 27 2016 10:44 lestye wrote:
Can someone link some sort of standings or grids that MATTER before we call out people as frauds or actually good at the game?

Results of international tournaments aren't good enough for you? I already gave you links.

http://www.civplayers.com/index.php?section=smf&board=83.0
http://civ4players.proboards.com/board/8/civ4-world-championship-cup

Just search for "Theory" in these threads:
http://www.civplayers.com/index.php?section=smf&topic=7153.0
http://www.civplayers.com/index.php?section=smf&topic=7154.0
http://www.civplayers.com/index.php?section=smf&topic=7155.0

Duels are duels. Cton is FFA with banned diplomacy. Ironman is like Cton but without a time limit IIRC. And MrGameTheory mostly competed in these events, usually reserved for a strongest duelists (other matches were team games IIRC).

And he was a leader of his clan too in this clan tournament.
Knowledge is Power
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
October 27 2016 10:29 GMT
#211
Are there any vods/videos of professional matches? This is the first time I hear of pro Civ 5 matches :O
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Ellestar
Profile Joined November 2015
Russian Federation6 Posts
October 27 2016 14:13 GMT
#212
On October 27 2016 19:29 Kotreb wrote:
Are there any vods/videos of professional matches? This is the first time I hear of pro Civ 5 matches :O

There was a Civ 5 ladder.
http://www.civplayers.com/index.php?section=standings&league=3
Knowledge is Power
MrGameTheory
Profile Joined October 2016
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-27 19:03:46
October 27 2016 19:03 GMT
#213
MrGameTheory Interview on Civilization VI -
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
October 28 2016 11:51 GMT
#214
On October 26 2016 01:03 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 01:00 Acrofales wrote:
On October 26 2016 00:58 Khalum wrote:
You can delete your first settler on turn one!

Interesting. Delete settler, conquer neighbouring civ with single warrior, win anyway!


Anybody remember that AoE 1 scenario where you got one priest and the whole map was divided between these two enemy factions and it was like, good luck! Go convert dudes! Happy wololoing!

Ya lmao that was such a classic
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 28 2016 23:09 GMT
#215
On October 27 2016 23:13 Ellestar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 19:29 Kotreb wrote:
Are there any vods/videos of professional matches? This is the first time I hear of pro Civ 5 matches :O

There was a Civ 5 ladder.
http://www.civplayers.com/index.php?section=standings&league=3


The FFA ladder is the most up-to-date and has plenty of familiar players listed.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3519 Posts
October 30 2016 14:37 GMT
#216
I don't think the game will succeed as an e-sport because Firaxis doesn't give a shit about bugs, exploits, or anything resembling decent balance. It came out almost two weeks ago and there are no signs they will even attempt to make the game decent for multiplayer.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
October 31 2016 02:11 GMT
#217
There was supposed to be an announcement on October 29th about the two new Liquid Civ VI progamers. Did I miss that? Have they been announced yet?
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-31 02:20:46
October 31 2016 02:20 GMT
#218
On October 30 2016 23:37 goswser wrote:
I don't think the game will succeed as an e-sport because Firaxis doesn't give a shit about bugs, exploits, or anything resembling decent balance. It came out almost two weeks ago and there are no signs they will even attempt to make the game decent for multiplayer.

Of all the reasons Civ isn't going to work as an esport, bugs and things like that are at the bottom of the list I think.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
October 31 2016 12:24 GMT
#219
Seems way too premature....
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
October 31 2016 15:55 GMT
#220
I've tried to watch Civ 6 multiplayer streams, and it is extremely boring.

Of course, a tournament stream might be different, but just the gameplay alone doesn't scream excitement or anticipation.

The only time it gets exciting is in the very late game, when players have 5-6 cities to manage with lots of decisions to make and time runs out.

But that is like several hours of gameplay.
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