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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18858 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-19 13:16:40
March 19 2017 13:16 GMT
#321
Man, word on this is so scattered that it's making my purchase choice rather difficult. I have no past with ME games, but I love sci fi and RPGS and have been looking to scratch that itch for a while. Will this game do it?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-19 13:30:01
March 19 2017 13:19 GMT
#322
Splurge the $5 and play the trial? You get 10% off of the game (with that EA Vault stuff) on top if you decide to get it, so no wasted money - if you don't like it, you only "wasted" $5 (you still played 10 hours of ME:A, and have the option to play other games too).

edit: so far, if you can live with sub-par face animations, i'd actually say yeah, from what i've seen (well, the trial), the game at its core is fun. Exploration, combat, atmosphere. But it's subjective - and $5 really, i mean.. Well.

As something to remember: people went completely apeshit and hammered Witcher 3 for the "downgraded graphics". It just seems to be a trend that if you personally have a disappointing experience with something, it automatically makes it horrible for everyone. I wouldn't (in fact, didn't) give a shit about people slamming the game, nor about people who so far thoroughly enjoy it - form your own opinion for $5, one burger less this month, and you get a precise idea.

edit2: that being said, if you haven't played the first three MEs, you might wanna consider getting those for cheap. While differing in quality (some are better than others), all of them are very enjoyable.
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Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
March 19 2017 15:03 GMT
#323
I recommend buying ME 2 and 3 first (only get one if you do not mind really outdated graphics).
You can have them quite cheep and they are a blast to play.
I would really wait on MEA and maybe get it cheeper or wait for bug fixes that they will hopefully do unless you are already a really great fan of the universe...
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-19 15:17:25
March 19 2017 15:12 GMT
#324
The face animations won't get fixed across the board, that's already official.

Also being a fan of the universe has quite literally nothing to do with ME:A, in fact, it is just another thing that people could (actually, do) rub themselves on because it doesn't "refer enough" to older games.

The trial is simply the smartest option. So smart, that i actually wished that every (AAA) game would offer me the first couple of hours for $5 and 10% off if i decide to buy it. Would've prevented shitbuys like Dishonored 2 etc.

edit: and it really rubs me the wrong way when people act like this game is unplayable in its current state. It's not. Stop dramatising stuff. There's plenty people out there who don't give a shit if they can't chose "the exact skin color i want", or expressions partially(!) are derpy.

It just seems to be a trend that if you personally have a disappointing experience with something, it automatically makes it horrible for everyone.
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
March 19 2017 15:19 GMT
#325
I am going to play ME 3 first. ME 1 was good and ME 2 was amazing.
Might but Andromeda as soon as major problems are fixed because i love the universe.
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-19 15:29:26
March 19 2017 15:20 GMT
#326
Just get ME 1-3, all of them are good sci fi RPGs.

ME 1 has obviously the worst combat (in my opinion) and some other flaws (like the generic buildings for the side quests, the inventory managment and well, also the open chests mini game), but its atmosphere is so dense, it sucks you right in and doesnt really let you out.
Obviously the graphics are outdate as its based on the good old unreal 3 engine, but the game still looks acceptable, textures are big problem for it nowadays, but the characters design and facial animations (huh huh huh) still stand for themself.

All games should cost maximum of 10$/€ as keys, if you say, you like sci fi RPGs, then you should really replay all 3 of em starting with the first.

Also look out for the mods, there are some good ones, if you play ME3, use this mod:
http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/350/?tab=2&navtag=http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/ajax/modfiles/?id=350&pUp=1

Also my face when I made Parasini and Andoles kill each other for the first time ever in a ME 1 run in 2016 and never knew that this was even possible.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22409 Posts
March 19 2017 15:32 GMT
#327
On March 20 2017 00:12 m4ini wrote:
The face animations won't get fixed across the board, that's already official.

Also being a fan of the universe has quite literally nothing to do with ME:A, in fact, it is just another thing that people could (actually, do) rub themselves on because it doesn't "refer enough" to older games.

The trial is simply the smartest option. So smart, that i actually wished that every (AAA) game would offer me the first couple of hours for $5 and 10% off if i decide to buy it. Would've prevented shitbuys like Dishonored 2 etc.

edit: and it really rubs me the wrong way when people act like this game is unplayable in its current state. It's not. Stop dramatising stuff. There's plenty people out there who don't give a shit if they can't chose "the exact skin color i want", or expressions partially(!) are derpy.

Show nested quote +
It just seems to be a trend that if you personally have a disappointing experience with something, it automatically makes it horrible for everyone.

The reason that the trial is so great is the very reason many companies don't offer it.
They want the day 1 sucker buy for their "shit" game.

+ Show Spoiler +

High quality Bioware writing right there...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
March 19 2017 15:33 GMT
#328
On March 20 2017 00:12 m4ini wrote:
The face animations won't get fixed across the board, that's already official.

Source? I remember Bioware saying it wont be fixed at day 1, not that it wont be fixed at all. Not that I think that they will be fixed at all, but if the shitstorm is strong enough, who knows.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
March 19 2017 15:55 GMT
#329
I finally beat ME2 for the first time the other night, I had beaten ME1 4 or 5 times on xbox 360 many years ago before it broke.

Just getting into ME3 now as well (full of errors and bugs because I messed up the texture mod so I lost 6 hours to a reinstall Q_Q)

Its great. I don't think I'll finish it before ME:A comes out but hopefully before friday I can hop into ME:A. I havent bought a new game in a while and ME1/2/3 have been sitting on my PC for months now, and with the new job starting monday I want to get into ME:A with the hype, and then pay for it with my first paycheck :D

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Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
March 19 2017 15:56 GMT
#330
On March 20 2017 00:33 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 00:12 m4ini wrote:
The face animations won't get fixed across the board, that's already official.

Source? I remember Bioware saying it wont be fixed at day 1, not that it wont be fixed at all. Not that I think that they will be fixed at all, but if the shitstorm is strong enough, who knows.


In my opinion this issue deserves a shit storm, because otherwise there would be no motiviation for them to fix anything or do better in possible sequels.
It is just unfathombale how the main characters could pass through their internal reviews, quality control and external monitoring without raising red flags ...
How could they screw this up? The main character is the red line that runs through the entire game. It is the most important aspect of the game and it is that bad ...

In general all human females in the game look like they have been hit with the Niqab of uglyness to make them uninteresting and weak. This game could have been programmed by ISIS to make the players who actually want to play female characters hide them in their space suits ...
This is eithur blunt incompetence or malicous intent to model females across the board like this.
The staff that was in charge of character modelling, managing and quality control and game design should be layed off immediatly...
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 19 2017 16:02 GMT
#331
But . . . but . . . I like Cora.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
March 19 2017 16:32 GMT
#332
Its really not that bad .... the problem is the way the faces were rigged for animation and the fact they don't move. I mean ME1 had some janky ass animations but they looked ok because the shoulders and neck moved.

From what I've seen they just messed up the small things which make talking to people face to face seem okay.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 19 2017 16:48 GMT
#333
The knives seem to be out for this game, that is for sure. The faces look silly, but the blow back seems out out of control.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22409 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-19 16:56:41
March 19 2017 16:55 GMT
#334
On March 20 2017 01:48 Plansix wrote:
The knives seem to be out for this game, that is for sure. The faces look silly, but the blow back seems out out of control.

Because this is has been a long string of disappointments from Bioware. From DA:2 and DA:I to ME:3's ending and now a failure of basic animation so obvious it should have never been allowed to pass beyond the animation department, meaning they knowingly skimped on it.

It makes people wonder how more glaring failures there are past the trial.

That and the internet has a hard on for AAA studio's failing
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 19 2017 17:00 GMT
#335
Yeah, seems misguided. DA:2 was clearly a game being rushed out the door by EA to meet a financial quarter. ME:3 ending was meh, but I never felt the rage. The DA:I was fine. But people gunna be pissed if they are still mad about ME:3.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 19 2017 17:33 GMT
#336
I just see a lot of the hate as people jumping on the bandwagon because its the cool thing to do right now. The original ME trilogy was not without its flaws and bad animations but that didn't stop it from being some of peoples best games they've ever played. Like someone said, I think just because other stuff isn't really animated like hand movements, body movements, like in the original trilogy, we notice the bad facial animations more because we aren't as distracted by the other stuff.

Andromeda is not without its flaws, thats for sure, but its a pretty good game, just like the old games. I'd say the combat is the best its ever been. I'd compare it to ME1, slow to start, but once it gets going its good. The trial did its job on me because I can't wait.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
March 19 2017 17:39 GMT
#337
On March 20 2017 02:00 Plansix wrote:
Yeah, seems misguided. DA:2 was clearly a game being rushed out the door by EA to meet a financial quarter. ME:3 ending was meh, but I never felt the rage. The DA:I was fine. But people gunna be pissed if they are still mad about ME:3.


DA:I was not fine, it was severely flawed in several key aspects such as storytelling, character developement and so on, they sacrificed deepness for size. Bioware openly admittes this and promised improvements come MEA.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55579 Posts
March 19 2017 17:40 GMT
#338
So uh... I preordered the game and played the trial. And now I have a question. The trial was 40-something GB, the full game is supposed to be 55-ish GB. After downloading the full trial, my ME Andromeda folder is 45 GB, but Origin says I have fully preloaded the full version of the game as well.

So like... am I in for a 10 GB download on launch day?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-19 17:53:44
March 19 2017 17:50 GMT
#339
DA:I was fine for you specifically. The game was utter rubbish for me. Tactical component crushed to please console controls, irresponsive, full of pointless content with a story that wasn't remarkable enough to keep me interested and finish the game, like any other RPG i played from bioware before, and the combat, which would had been the only saving grace for me, was really really bad, bland and repetitive.


I just see a lot of the hate as people jumping on the bandwagon because its the cool thing to do right now.

Yep, and to defend it is the hipster thing to do. Silly labelling is silly. People are hating on it because what we had seen from the animations is completely trash, specially if we compare it to a 2007 videogame. That's 10 years, and we are speaking about a cinematic RPG here.

And i say this as someone who has it did reserve after the trial, because the combat looks promising, and that weights more for me at this point, but i won't claim people are just hating because it's cool to hate. C'mon. They have some legit reasons to criticize it.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-19 18:17:02
March 19 2017 18:11 GMT
#340
Nobody is complaining about legitimate complains, of which there are many.

Hell, nobody would actually give a shit if you couldn't stand it so much that you can't play it. The problem are people who think they're so important that their opinion of something goes so far that it's enough to make a blanket statement like "don't get it, it's shit".

Nobody here is actually defending the flaws, every single posting i've seen (and written) is acknowledging the problems, except the "hipsters" as you call them (first time ever heard that comparison) realise that they have fun with the game despite the flaws. Whereas you have others, getting a raging boner telling you how bad and disappointing it is and you totally should stay away from it. See the difference? And that's actually considered "medium hardcore" now, the real fans go after a girl who they think is solely responsible for the entire animation system. Obviously.

So like... am I in for a 10 GB download on launch day?


According to Bioware, you already should have downloaded the full client, nothing more. That's how in understand it anyway. Not even a day 1 patch, that's already applied.
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