ESL One Katowice 2015 - Page 55

On March 15 2015 10:33 Souma wrote:
They've been figured out because they've been figured out. If they were just underperforming I'd say they were underperforming. It showed in both games that NiP knew what nV was up to.

On March 15 2015 10:48 Faruko wrote:

then NiP was figured out million times before? they didnt do anything particularly different then other matches, they were just hitting their shots and thats it, if nV wins that game by just hitting their shots, would you say they were figured out ?

if anything they did some REALLY questionable things (like forest going B on inferno instead of A) agaisnt TSM as CT

On March 15 2015 11:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2z2r6x/why_did_nip_recruit_allu/

LOOOOL

On March 15 2015 10:19 Faruko wrote:
https://twitter.com/nV_SmithZzCSGO/status/576915344738091011

Actually, thats not a bad idea lol

On March 15 2015 11:40 Stancel wrote:


It's been brought up several times, but 50% of the reason why kennyS seem like he 1v9s every game on Titan is because the team plays around him, but NV wouldn't (other 50% being he's just that good)

On March 15 2015 11:28 Zergneedsfood wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2z2r6x/why_did_nip_recruit_allu/

LOOOOL


I don't think they were figured out as much as this tournament exposed that Happy isn't as good of a strat caller as some might think he is, and so when his team isn't on their A game, they falter on even some critical rounds, even rounds they traditionally win, like anti-eco/pistol rounds. In the NiP game specifically it was just super uncharacteristic to see them losing inexcusable anti-ecos on the 10-14 scoreline. Now....to be fair the NiP magic was fucking crazy today.

Think back to the original LDLC when Happy was actually doing strat calls instead of lurking and getting massive frags. He had a shit team compared to the ones now, but what was interesting about that team was Happy's ability to make rounds happen with far inferior skill. Under him a shit player like Uzi was considered by some to be one of the most "improved" players because he would have clutch performances. After Uzi was dropped, we really haven't heard from him again, while Maniac/Apex have never really impressed the way they did on LDLC. The reason is, I think, because Happy actually did a lot of strat calling and maintained a lot of control over his team to enable them to get the things that he wanted done.

I think since nV have such a massively skilled team, Happy's more comfortable with letting his experienced players playing loose in positions that favor their strengths, which arguably I would say is the right call, because it'd be silly to get people like NBK/Shox and tell them that they have to play a certain way when they're much better when you just unleash them on the enemy. It also frees up Happy to do some crazy things, and you saw that at MLG X Games when he was dropping 30 bombs when traditionally in game leaders just...never get those numbers

Obviously, the downside is if these players just have an off game, and in this case it was everyone on nV not having good games (Shox, NBK, Happy, Kioshima all had pretty meh~ showings while Smithzz maintained a mellow level of consistency), it can hurt their performance. Usually one player will just go full ham and fuck the enemy team single handedly, but it just didn't happen today.

On March 15 2015 11:51 Souma wrote:

The whole "nV was just underperforming/not hitting their shots" thing is very, very lazy analysis. I mean NiP blatantly demonstrated that they anti-stratted nV. Think of it this way: NiP didn't pick nV's best map just because they thought they'd be able to out-aim the Frenchmen.

I think you guys should listen to sgares's analysis more during the casting; it's very informative. As he mentioned, NiP was just playing very perfect Counter-Strike for many of the rounds, and not only did NiP know what nV was up to, but even sean knew what they almost always did.

How will it be to face the home town favorite on the big stage?

Pronax: We’ve never had the support of the crowd. If we face NiP in Sweden the audience always cheer for them. So we’re used to the situation.

Source: http://esport.aftonbladet.se/csgo/pronax-id-rather-crowd-no-crowd/

On March 15 2015 13:20 Souma wrote:
I really feel bad for Fnatic. :|



I dunno who to root for in the finals, so here's hoping for some good games.