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just gauging intertest here. I know supercell already has a forum for this, and we dont have the same capacity for posting replays and whatnot here, but I really like the game and figured maybe fellow TLers might enjoy talking about the game here.
This is a work in progress, but I am a mid level town hall 9 and have a fair bit of experience with a lot of difference attack strategies so I thought maybe a guide would be a good place to start? For now this thread can just be a general discussion type deal until I get some content put together.
Mod staff: I dont know if this is copyright infringment or anything like that on supercell given that they already operate an active forum, if it is please close. I dont want to get anybody in trouble.
what is the game? + Show Spoiler +Clash of Clans is a free downloadable game that allows a player to compete with other players by building a base, training an army, and launching attacks against other players. As some social media have labled it, it is a "fremium" game in that spending money, while not essential, will speed along a players progress in the game
how is it played? + Show Spoiler +as mentioned, CoC is played by launching strategic attacks against the bases of other players by training and upgrading troops, as well as building and upgrading the defensive structures of one's own base. There are sublte strategic elements to the game; troops are slaves to their ai, which means that once deployed, the player has no control over where the troops will go. Most troops are programmed to bash the enemy structure that it is closest to, others target defensive structures first or target enemy loot (gold and elixer) first. This leads to no one attack being similar to another: because every base is different, the AI of every attack will yeild different results.
My clan: "T.H.E. SOUL" looking for 80+ exp, preferably no rushed town halls. Pm me or leave a post if you want to join! Teamliquid.net clan: "TLMS" Neverexpo's clan: "Loot Bandits" 420 Spartans GG enterprises
Leave a post or pm me if you want me to list your clan for recruiting
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lol I played this for a while. It just started taking way too long so I stopped. Was fun while it lasted though.
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Yeah once you hit a certain point each upgrade takes like 5+ days, a couple of friends stopped playing for that same reason
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Yup.they basically tell you if you want to speed things up..spend money.
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Surprised there wasn't a thread on this already. I spent about 40$ on this game, played for almost a year. I feel I got pretty good value out of my money spent. I spent it on unlocking my builders and for a few speed ups (mostly because I had a ton of either gold/elixer/DE that made me a sitting duck, so I wanted to free up a builder so I wouldn't lose all my stored up resources). Most of the time though I just let the buildings/research finish. Right now pekka level 3 upgrade takes a total of 12 days and its not a big deal.
I don't like how they keep nerfing barching in the patches, because that's my go to for farming. Ugh. TH 9 upgrade completes in a few days. I've maxed all my TH8 buildings/research except collectors to 12 (don't really rely on them), dark rax troop upgrades (hero is currently upgrading to max level 10) and walls (I need about 139 more lvl 8 walls). Since there is a gem boost discount on rax, spell fact, hero these few days, I'm gonna try to upgrade most of my walls before TH9 completes.
Not sure what I'll do once TH9 but I imagine I'll immediately upgrade my lab so I can get level 6 barchers, my camps so I can barch better, and then start saving up for some xbows once I've built out the extra lvl 1 defenses I unlock
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On December 27 2014 12:43 fishjie wrote: Surprised there wasn't a thread on this already. I spent about 40$ on this game, played for almost a year. I feel I got pretty good value out of my money spent. I spent it on unlocking my builders and for a few speed ups (mostly because I had a ton of either gold/elixer/DE that made me a sitting duck, so I wanted to free up a builder so I wouldn't lose all my stored up resources). Most of the time though I just let the buildings/research finish. Right now pekka level 3 upgrade takes a total of 12 days and its not a big deal.
I don't like how they keep nerfing barching in the patches, because that's my go to for farming. Ugh. TH 9 upgrade completes in a few days. I've maxed all my TH8 buildings/research except collectors to 12 (don't really rely on them), dark rax troop upgrades (hero is currently upgrading to max level 10) and walls (I need about 139 more lvl 8 walls). Since there is a gem boost discount on rax, spell fact, hero these few days, I'm gonna try to upgrade most of my walls before TH9 completes.
Not sure what I'll do once TH9 but I imagine I'll immediately upgrade my lab so I can get level 6 barchers, my camps so I can barch better, and then start saving up for some xbows once I've built out the extra lvl 1 defenses I unlock
Nice, good job on your th8. Seems like we are pretty close.
I agree on the barching nerfs, that 4th mortar is killing me. A few minions help, mine are lvl 5 and they add a little more firepower to an underpowered composition
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I'm almost done with th9, just have to farm 7m gold (eek) for my second lvl 3 xbow-- going to try to get that done while there's the 1 gem boost. Then it's finishing up collectors to 12, and another couple months on walls.
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I almost maxed TH9 with skull walls before selling my account (gem prices are ridicilous so theres black market). I liked the game untill everything started to cost millions.
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When you start to measure your investment into this game by the weeks. You know that youre investing too much lol.
I took it off notifications for a while now. But occasionally just upgrade my walls when Im bored at school, thats about it.
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How do you go about selling an account?
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I've been playing this game for 3 months (give or take a week) and I'm kind of having fun with it. My TH7 upgrade is almost complete. I guess this is the part where the game is actually fun. I have no remaining upgrades, full storages, more than half full clan castle (resourcewise), mines and collectors have been banking for a good time too. My friend tells me to have fun playing while I still can.
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You're in the sweet spot for raiding with your army supply, try to max out everything (walls too) before going to th8
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How much does this game 'really' cost? Like hearthstone is a 'free' 400$ game.
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It depends on how you play, really. As long as you're patient about upgrading and don't feel the need to upgrade everything all at once, you shouldn't feel pressured to buy gems. They're easy enough to come by in-game by clearing out obstacles consistently and getting achievements, it just all takes a lot of time. If you absolutely must have a strong base and strong army right away once you start playing, well...then who knows how much you could dump into the game for buying gems to speed things up.
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On January 03 2015 09:34 RoieTRS wrote: How much does this game 'really' cost? Like hearthstone is a 'free' 400$ game. You don't have to spend a dime on the game if you are patient, but if you really get into the game than the temptation to speed it along with gems is terrible. But as the guy above me said, if you can resist the urge and stay patient, you'll be just fine and the game will be 100% free.
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On my way to TH6.
I like it because I can literally play in 5 minute batches throughout the day instead of investing lots of time sitting down to play for an hour or two all in one shot.
Losing battles is also really forgiving. Until I'm Th9/10 I really don't care all that much about ranking anyway, it's all about farming dat money to upgrade my base for now.
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Yup you're right. Trophies really don't matter.
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Actively played this game since May 2014. Its been a fantastic mobile game for me. I have a lot of down time at work which makes this a perfect time killer for me.
My current clan is top notch- we war twice a week and our record is 51 wins 8 losses.
HIGHLY recommend this game!
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On January 03 2015 09:34 RoieTRS wrote: How much does this game 'really' cost? Like hearthstone is a 'free' 400$ game.
It really depends. I spent 40$ on it so far. I might drop another 5$ in the future. The big usage of gems is to gem your resources to full and to gem your buildings to completion, and those are the most expensive. I don't use those. I save my gems for when there are bonuses to collectors or barracks (like right now), or once in a while I'll spend 40-50 gems to complete a structure so I can immediately start on another. If you have the patience to wait 10+ days for an upgrade or building to complete, then the game is free. I've got no problem with that but I imagine a lot of the kids who play the game are young and impatient.
Funny story. We played this clan persian club. They seemed to be from the middle east because their names were all in arabic. And we were winning like 24-0 in the 10v10. At the last 5 minutes, they mass dragoned all our stuff and won the game. One member of our clan actually rage quit as a result. We were speculating they must have been arabian princes who had vast wealth to gem their army instantaneously at the last minute and pwn us and they go around pwning/trolling people for the lulz. Even though we got owned, that was my favorite clan war ever!
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oh also trophies do matter in that I find that you need to be around gold 3 to find bases with lots of DE (500-1k per attack). that was my experience at th8. now that i'm th9, i can't afford to go any lower. otherwise you have to hit next way too many times.
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I guess ile throw a clan recruiting section into the op. List your clan name, trophy requirement, and desired player recruit level and well see what happens!
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On January 03 2015 11:45 fishjie wrote: oh also trophies do matter in that I find that you need to be around gold 3 to find bases with lots of DE (500-1k per attack). that was my experience at th8. now that i'm th9, i can't afford to go any lower. otherwise you have to hit next way too many times.
Ya but Gold 3 is easy to hit. Hell, if you play enough, you can climb pretty high just sniping the Town Halls of farming bases (yes, I know you won't be farming many resources this way). A TH4 made it into Champion League by doing that.
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He's got a point though you do want to hang around gold league to find good bases to raid, anything below that and your gonna have a tough time finding resources
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Installed, played for an hour and uninstalled. This is exactly the type of game that i would get addicted to like ogame back in the days. God dammit i hate you because i know ill end up playing it anyway.
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Don't fight it man. Play the game.
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On January 03 2015 12:33 Nemireck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 11:45 fishjie wrote: oh also trophies do matter in that I find that you need to be around gold 3 to find bases with lots of DE (500-1k per attack). that was my experience at th8. now that i'm th9, i can't afford to go any lower. otherwise you have to hit next way too many times. Ya but Gold 3 is easy to hit. Hell, if you play enough, you can climb pretty high just sniping the Town Halls of farming bases (yes, I know you won't be farming many resources this way). A TH4 made it into Champion League by doing that.
Agreed on gold 3 being easy to reach. I hit Gold 2 mostly from successful defenses after hitting a nice combination of people farming themselves down and others swarming my collectors and getting next to nothing to show for it.
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On January 03 2015 11:02 Nemireck wrote: On my way to TH6.
I like it because I can literally play in 5 minute batches throughout the day instead of investing lots of time sitting down to play for an hour or two all in one shot.
Losing battles is also really forgiving. Until I'm Th9/10 I really don't care all that much about ranking anyway, it's all about farming dat money to upgrade my base for now. Indeed. Trophies don't matter for now. If I got all resources and got 0 stars, I surrender immediately just to lower my trophies.
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On January 03 2015 12:36 Aveng3r wrote: He's got a point though you do want to hang around gold league to find good bases to raid, anything below that and your gonna have a tough time finding resources
Sure, and I guess my point is that Goldish is so easy to hit that my statement still holds true. Simply by being TH7+ and using a proper base layout, defenses alone should keep you in that mid-Gold range.
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Anyone here in a decent clan for a relatively new TH7 & 8 accounts?
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Ok here is what I have done on TH9 so far. I upgraded before my collectors were maxed out. only 50% of my walls were level 8 skulls.
builder 1 -> xbows builder 2 ->,spell fact, lab (my lab was still upgrading pekkas to level 3 when I hit th9) builder 3-> level 1 defenses builder 4->archer queen upgrades builder 5->army camps then DE drill so now all the new defenses i built should reach their th9 max, army camps are maxed, barchers are level 6. i'm upgrading my clan castle, and that will be my last defense upgrade for the next few weeks. i'm gonna switch to maxing off my collectors, especially DE drill.
not sure whether to get lvl 6 giants or lvl 6 balloons next. lvl 6 balloons will help in war, nothing like trolling lowbies by garissoning lvl 6 balloons in the lower bases for the lulz.
I feel like I have completed "part 1". part 2 is upgrading all my defenses to th9 max. haven't really upgraded any walls since th8, and it may be a while since everything so pricey, and i'm always using all 5 builders.
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^similar position. ive got one or two traps to upgrade, a couple things to research a dna whole buttload of walls.
ive got: 132 lvl 7 92 lvl 8 26 lvl 9
T_T
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If anyone wants to join some tl people playing apply to clan TLMS and message opshot. We accept everyone.
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haha, the old maplestory crew?
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oh geez, yall done with path of exile?
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lol the pain of the walls at level TH 8 :p
I'm just finishing off my Tesla's to max on TH 8 and it's taking a week... SIGH
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I just started a new clan, "Surgemus" ("we will rise" in latin), and I would love to join together with some fellow TL'ers. Clan is only at 2 people right now, but we're generous and we're up to fight once we have 10 total!
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Im currently in 420 spartans, mid TH9 (maxed war troops, working on my lego's, mostly TH8 defences)
At that level it's good to do walls before defences to keep your MMR low and your attacking ability high for war
420 spartans is a 100% hardcore 3* only warring clan though recently i've been getting tired so i might take a break in a TL clan if there is one hah
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pls vince we don't like hoppers once you're in TLMS you're in 4lyfe
we also adopt the 3-star-or-nothing mentality. we have many potatoes. if you join you'll prob be #1 or #2. we war back-to-back nonstop. we've been really active though, our wars are like 28/30 on 10-man and 42/45 on 15-man (haven't lost yet!)
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On March 09 2015 23:15 OpticalShot wrote: pls vince we don't like hoppers once you're in TLMS you're in 4lyfe
we also adopt the 3-star-or-nothing mentality. we have many potatoes. if you join you'll prob be #1 or #2. we war back-to-back nonstop. we've been really active though, our wars are like 28/30 on 10-man and 42/45 on 15-man (haven't lost yet!)
3 starring is REALLY trivial at TH8 and TH7 though At th9 3 starring other maxxed th9's is really hard
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Hey guys sorry to bump but I think somebody from here tried to join us recently and my roommate rejected u, sorry about that! If you want to join (T.H.E. SOUL) plz feel free everybody is welcome!
Edit: we are now clan level 2 and on our way to level 3, we war nonstop and have been winning most of them recently.
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On March 10 2015 21:08 BrTarolg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 23:15 OpticalShot wrote: pls vince we don't like hoppers once you're in TLMS you're in 4lyfe
we also adopt the 3-star-or-nothing mentality. we have many potatoes. if you join you'll prob be #1 or #2. we war back-to-back nonstop. we've been really active though, our wars are like 28/30 on 10-man and 42/45 on 15-man (haven't lost yet!) 3 starring is REALLY trivial at TH8 and TH7 though At th9 3 starring other maxxed th9's is really hard I'm right with you on this. My troops are to the point where I can 3 star any th8 or below without fail, th9 really is the tipping point where you can make yourself hard to get that 3rd star on.
My gowipe lavaloonian and hog attacks are all maxed, I'm working on learning the gowiwi now
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I launched my first dragon assault on other TH7's and yeah it's basically foolproof.
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Avenger it was me that tried to join your clan but now I'm in TMLS fyi.. we should merg the clans and have a full tl clan of 40+
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Just sent a join request to TLMS
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it's good to have u fet. All team liquid people are welcome to join TLMS
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On March 13 2015 22:28 OpticalShot wrote: I launched my first dragon assault on other TH7's and yeah it's basically foolproof. When I was TH7, getting dragon attacked made me cringe in pure anger. 10 level 2 dragons against only 2 air defenses of maximum level 5? Give me a freaking break.
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Looking for a clan to join, who's currently recruiting?
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Clan "TLMS" is the TL Clan
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Abenson is our new war hero.
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And some of us are failing at wars. I'm BRZ
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wars with TH7 and below are just asking to be dragon rushed. it's so cheesy and boring, and there's not much you can do.
wars become really fun when you're at max TH8 and above. it can become stressful too if you're in a competitive clan.
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Clan: WhatAreClanWars | #R2OYQ8
Back to back war clan. 97-42-5. If you are competitive you will like it. Must be active of course.
PM me if you want to join and we can see about setting up an invite.
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wow naonao rejected me from TLMS u guys suck
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On April 01 2015 01:36 naonao wrote: No hablo
Well i can't rejoin now so ur loss
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You requested saying your our real leader and called us nubs.. not very smart guy
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All Team liquid people are welcome to join clan TLMS just plz be respectful
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That's cause i was the TLMS guild founder
If you don't want me i wont join it's fine
Compared to the amount of abuse tlms has hurled at me in the past i'm pretty sure this join msg is nothing lol
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On April 01 2015 02:44 pheenx wrote: All Team liquid people are welcome to join clan TLMS just plz be respectful
Brtarolg is the original founder of the guild in Maple lol
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On April 01 2015 02:59 BrTarolg wrote: That's cause i was the TLMS guild founder
If you don't want me i wont join it's fine
Compared to the amount of abuse tlms has hurled at me in the past i'm pretty sure this join msg is nothing lol
What abuse?
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dramalamashamalayadingdong?
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elgible for next war in 1d5h. We do not appreciate clan hoppers.
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On April 01 2015 03:45 naonao wrote: elgible for next war in 1d5h. We do not appreciate clan hoppers.
I just wanted to visit
I'm the co-leader of 420 spartans lol
if u want i can carry you hard in war but prob no point since i'd be your no1 anyway
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Everyone on team liquid forums is welcome to join clan TLMS just make sure you put in your request that u saw us on tl otherwise you will be denied. We are a team liquid only clan
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I will add all clans who are recruiting to the OP that have posted in here when I get back home tonight
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I'll surprise you guys by saying that I managed to get the name Supercell.
Will be joining TLMS soon. TH7.
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I'm a new player at TH5 and I just got raided by someone that was using Dragons, Barbarian King and Archer Queen. I know it's based on league standing where I'm somehow just below him but it's still painful.
Applied to join the clan too.
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I co-lead a pretty small clan called "Loot Bandits", we only have about 12 players but we're all very active/friendly and friends in real life. Looking for a couple more players who are active and down to play 2-3 clan wars a week. Looking for players above 1200 trophies but if you're active and willing to progress we will accept lower. Apply on the game or msg me here for more info
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Hmmm why don't you bring your group to tlms.. we have enough space and we war non stop! There is to many loot bandits to even pick out witch one is yours fyi...
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Everyone from team liquid forums is welcome to join clan TLMS no matter how new you are. Make sure to say your from to in your request
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pheenx is basically our marketing
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Lol
I added 2 clans to the OP, tlms and loot bandits
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Is the roffles in tlms the same roffles that used to post here a lot?
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On April 11 2015 01:31 Aveng3r wrote: Is the roffles in tlms the same roffles that used to post here a lot? He is who you think he is.
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I wanna try a war or two with the TL crew. I'm Th9 maxed defenses, working on walls 9 and heroes at the moment. But I can't stay , I'm in a dedicated clan atm! :D
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Idk if we are letting hoppers in lol maybe u should have kept that to yourself
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On April 11 2015 01:28 Aveng3r wrote: Lol
I added 2 clans to the OP, tlms and loot bandits thanks mate appreciate it
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On April 11 2015 01:28 Aveng3r wrote: Lol
I added 2 clans to the OP, tlms and loot bandits What do u mean op? I'm a noob idk wut u mean
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On April 14 2015 23:13 pheenx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 01:28 Aveng3r wrote: Lol
I added 2 clans to the OP, tlms and loot bandits What do u mean op? I'm a noob idk wut u mean I believe it stands for original post
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well my th9 structures and troops are all maxed out and I have about 35 walls left to upgrade to lvl 9. Beyond that I would like to get all my walls to lvl 10 but idk how long my resolve will hold out until I just upgrade to th10
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So am I doing harm for our clan if I mess up my attack in clan war and 0 star it? Like are the attacks limited per clan or per player?
So I know if I'l refrain from clan wars for now or just keep learning via failure. Don't want to be the dick losing us wars.
Edit: Appreciated guys, I'l put these tips to use.
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Everyone gets a set # of atks, so if you screw up it's no big deal. No pressure, it doesn't matter if you lose. Don't worry your clan leader doesn't care whether or not you screw up your attack or not. Best to just keep trying.
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Attack limited to twice per war per player. Activity, in the form of using both attacks (hopefully meaningfully), is the most important aspect!
Keep at it and you'll get better at estimating and planning out your 3-star attacks. A good benchmark is to attack the opponent of the same war rank - for example, if you are #23, scout #23 and see if you can put together a plan to 100% it. We're not strict on "you must attack your #" so feel free to attack up/down as you see fit.
One tip, especially if you're in the lower half of the clan war #, is to use both attacks early in the war so that upper half people can clean up towards the end if necessary.
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So my clan, 420 spartans, just got into a war with clashheads :o
I think we will lose this one since we just had a bunch of new recruits but will be interesting...
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Clan GG Enterprises looking for a few more members. Bunch of people from the uk who know each other IRL mainly, pretty much just me with the Starcraft fetish! On average newer th7s but higher and lower welcome, feel free to join, war twice a week. My aka is Peebus.
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If you're th7 and above, theres no worry about losing wars since you just dragon every single th7. Guaranteed 3* unless you screw up really bad.
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Some people try really hard to screw up those dragon attacks. It's like girls when I was a teen, everyone around me told me to just give them the D, it was so easy but for some reason they just wouldn't take it...
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On April 16 2015 13:07 SagaZ wrote: Some people try really hard to screw up those dragon attacks. It's like girls when I was a teen, everyone around me told me to just give them the D, it was so easy but for some reason they just wouldn't take it... Haha it's nothing like that.. Dragon ftw EZ
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glad to see you guys are active in CoC Would gladly join a TL based clan, but both my accounts are in a steady clan I am co-leading currently..
Would be glad to send one over for a war or two, for fun, but I would not be staying for long.. (accounts are th8 and th9). If you don't mind such hopping, let me know ^^
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We aint no hoppy bros. We potato 4 lyfe. TLMS hype!
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yea TLMS, where we win wars without needing anyone above level 80
Skillz are what we got
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On April 16 2015 20:02 HaruRH wrote: yea TLMS, where we win wars without needing anyone above level 80
Skillz are what we got
well that's cause the matchmaking usually matches you together with others such as yourself.. =D
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We don't have a single TH9 and we're still gonna win teams with TH9 with our dragon taming skillz
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We're basically a bunch of dragon cheesers and potatoes, the two being not mutually exclusive. We love potatoes and war.
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How often does the TL-clan war? My brother and I are in a super crappy clan right now...would be nice to win a war now and again.
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On April 16 2015 22:37 aseq wrote: How often does the TL-clan war? My brother and I are in a super crappy clan right now...would be nice to win a war now and again.
every damned day
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we war back to back. no breaks. #warmonger
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You guys don't have a single th9 in the TL clan?
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On April 16 2015 22:37 aseq wrote: How often does the TL-clan war? My brother and I are in a super crappy clan right now...would be nice to win a war now and again. As soon as a war ends we start another.. we are non stop
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No th9 yet becuz we aren't rushing them.. fyi but brz should be doing it soon
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On April 17 2015 03:53 NrG.NeverExpo wrote: whats potato lol On second thought, maybe won't show that video
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Potato means potato duhhh expo change your name btw you have used that name for to many years jking
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On April 17 2015 03:32 pheenx wrote: No th9 yet becuz we aren't rushing them.. fyi but brz should be doing it soon Yeah I've just been super busy at work lately so haven't been playing. Basically maxed out TH8 except walls
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I played this game for 1 week.. i was afraid that i'll get into addict.So i stopped.
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Yea I think most of us have only been playing for a month or two so we're all still like th7-8.
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What are your guys preferred war attacks? I got my golem to lvl 4 recently so I've been using gowipe quite a lot, and my witches are going up to lvl 2 now so Ile probably try some gowiwi too.
I saw a hog attack the other day where the guy uses a single golem and a jump spell to soak up damage and distract the defending aq before the hogs go in and I think I'm gonna try that now
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Dragons seem to be really good up until a certain point, somewhere around the end of TH9. 4 Lvl 7-8 air defences really take good care of them, and it starts to get hard to get to those too.
I'm level 116, TH10, and I never get attacked by dragons. Most common is definitely golem/pekka/witch/wizard with freeze and sometimes jump spells.
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On April 20 2015 07:25 aseq wrote: Dragons seem to be really good up until a certain point, somewhere around the end of TH9. 4 Lvl 7-8 air defences really take good care of them, and it starts to get hard to get to those too.
I'm level 116, TH10, and I never get attacked by dragons. Most common is definitely golem/pekka/witch/wizard with freeze and sometimes jump spells.
Purely dragons in war are good up until th8. I am th9 and have never been even 2 starred by dragons since hitting th9. Dragons + loons though, are viable at th10 even in challenger, and can get 2 stars on most th10's, even if they are maxed. There's a video about it in youtube.
But yeah, for me, in war GoWiPe, GoWiWi, GoWiHo and lavaloonian are the ones that show up most.. Dragons become obsolete, so they are seen very rarely.
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Just got to clan level 4, holy cow it's gonna take a while to get to lvl 5
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On April 15 2015 07:39 Aveng3r wrote: well my th9 structures and troops are all maxed out and I have about 35 walls left to upgrade to lvl 9. Beyond that I would like to get all my walls to lvl 10 but idk how long my resolve will hold out until I just upgrade to th10
Wow, are you me?
Right now I have 35 more walls to level 9 as I'm typing this post, all my defenses maxed. Troops I'm working on Hogs 5, lava hound 2 afterwards, then minions to level 5 I want to do some level 10 walls but definitely will max heroes which are super low and then proceed.
But I want them inferno towers..
On April 20 2015 01:35 Aveng3r wrote: What are your guys preferred war attacks? I got my golem to lvl 4 recently so I've been using gowipe quite a lot, and my witches are going up to lvl 2 now so Ile probably try some gowiwi too.
I saw a hog attack the other day where the guy uses a single golem and a jump spell to soak up damage and distract the defending aq before the hogs go in and I think I'm gonna try that now
Right now, I'm using GoGiWiWi, which is a variation of GoWiWi: 220 camp space: 13 wizard (52) 14 giants (70) 2 golems (60) 2 witches (24) 6 wallbreakers (6) = 212 space (fill with arch, wiz)
clan castle (30) = seven level 6 wizards (28) + 2 archers (2)
Spell: 2 heal, 1 rage, 1 jump or 3 heal, 1 jump
Like the GoWiWi and GoWiPe, this attack is guaranteed 2* attacks on beefy TH9's at best. I've only been able to 3* one TH9 that was reletively maxed using this strategy, but it was because the stars aligned and troop AI was in my favor.
I also think GoWiWiPe has some potential for SPECIFIC 3* bases
2 golem (60) 6 witches (72) 19 wizards (76) 2 wallbreakers (4) 2 minions (4) 4 archers (4)
2 heal 1 rage 1 jump clan castle (30) = level 5 pekka (25) + 1 wiz 6 (4) + 1 archer (1)
However, hogs and variations of it such as the HoLoWiWi, HoLo, GoHo can 3* any TH9 base if executed correctly. The same applies for LavaLoon strategies, but I have no experience with either lava hounds or hogs in wars.
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Hmm, I really don't think maxing out everything, including walls, is even close to optimal. Sure, you lose some attack prowess, but don't underestimate those extra 3 collectors at TH10. Also, TH10 still get 90% vs TH9 which isn't bad at all, it's only TH8 where they are suffering, but those generally have a lot fewer resources anyway, since their upgrades are cheaper.
Also, your defence is a lot weaker at TH9 since you can't get inferno towers (or lvl 8 'special towers') so you'll lose more savings as well. It's probably too hard to come up with any math to calculate anything sensible, but my gut feeling says you're better off getting all building upgrades and your walls to lvl 8, then upgrading town hall, instead of spending months of watching hogs jump over your walls anyway.
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aseq im still gonna do heroes till 20, 25. my AQ is level 9 and BK is level 10...lol
so i suppose ill do as many lava walls as I can before I move on
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Got all walls to lvl 9, don't know how long my resolve will hold until I get to th10..
I have all my troops maxed out except for valks, and while I know they can do some serious damage on defense if the attacker doesn't pull cc troops out first, I don't think im gonna upgrade them at all. I'd rather just dump all the de into heroes
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Man I'm having a hard time getting all the walls to lv 8... the sheer grindiness of this is really demotivational. What's driving you guys to get to all lv 9 walls and beyond?
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Is it worth for a total noob to join the TL clan? I've been meaning to find a new phone game lol.
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Got a lotta noobs in TLMS. Feel free to join.
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On May 01 2015 11:31 Lost My Will To Live wrote: Got a lotta noobs in TLMS. Feel free to join.
I apparently need 10k gold to rebuild clan... thing, I'll be there eventually lol
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On May 01 2015 08:17 spritzz wrote: Man I'm having a hard time getting all the walls to lv 8... the sheer grindiness of this is really demotivational. What's driving you guys to get to all lv 9 walls and beyond?
so I know I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this, but I was around the update where we could upgrade walls with elixir starting at level 6. After I finished skulls using both elixir and gold, it was easy from that point on even after the wall upgrade was patched.
Barch is the best way to farm, if you're not using giant/arch/barb
Level 10 is definitely a grind though. Got 7 of them done but only will continue doing them as I finish up my heroes.
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Haven't posted in a while. One archer tower away from MAXING my defense buildings (well except the new air sweeper that just got released yesterday). Then its a long grind to complete all my hero upgrades, dark elixer upgrades, and wall upgrades. I heard TH10 SUCKS for loot, so I'm going to stay in TH9 for a while.
Last war I sucked, BK was upgrading, so I only got 0 and 1 stars respectively, I was 1% off from getting 1 and 2 stars. I'm the top base in the clan, so normally I can get two two stars on one and two. I feel like there's no real way for me to increase the power of my GoWiPe, as my pekkas and wiz are maxed. I can max golems but that's about it, and upgrade heroes. But upgrading heroes means can't use them in war. UGH.
edit: at this point because of the grind, i'm winding down my play time. we war twice a week, and i call it good. i don't even raid that much anymore
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wheee finished my skull walls... hopefully my heroes will hit 20 around the same time i finish my legos.
will probably go to th10 sometime during the summer.
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I'm wondering how to raid as a TH 10. Everything will cost close to 8 million gold or elixer to upgrade I imagine. There is a 50% penalty hitting TH9 and an additional 50% for hitting TH8. My bread and butter are TH8 right now in crystal 3 / gold 1 who have crap walls / defenses. Losing that source of income will suck when I do TH10. TH9 bases, with the exception of the rare freemiums, will have xbows which makes everything trickier. Barch probably won't be nearly as effective. And the freemium TH9 are so rare because everyone hits those, from TH8 to TH10. I'm thinking if I push higher up into crystal 1 the loot will get worse, but the bonus will compensate. Maybe that's how I'll get my upgrades in.
Right now crystal 3 pays out 30k in loot, and crystal 2 pays out 50k. In crystal 2 range there aren't very many easy bases with lots of resources, so I dropped back to gold 1 and crystal 3 range.
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Is tlms invite only? I see a clan with 33 people but I can't join
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Just send a request and mention TL
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On May 02 2015 13:25 infinity21 wrote: Just send a request and mention TL
Says I have to have 400 trophys, which I obviously don't ^_^
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i dont know what to say about that
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United States9647 Posts
anyone have an idea for solid TH8 bases with the new air sweeper?
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On May 02 2015 07:37 fishjie wrote: I'm wondering how to raid as a TH 10. Everything will cost close to 8 million gold or elixer to upgrade I imagine. There is a 50% penalty hitting TH9 and an additional 50% for hitting TH8. My bread and butter are TH8 right now in crystal 3 / gold 1 who have crap walls / defenses. Losing that source of income will suck when I do TH10. TH9 bases, with the exception of the rare freemiums, will have xbows which makes everything trickier. Barch probably won't be nearly as effective. And the freemium TH9 are so rare because everyone hits those, from TH8 to TH10. I'm thinking if I push higher up into crystal 1 the loot will get worse, but the bonus will compensate. Maybe that's how I'll get my upgrades in.
Right now crystal 3 pays out 30k in loot, and crystal 2 pays out 50k. In crystal 2 range there aren't very many easy bases with lots of resources, so I dropped back to gold 1 and crystal 3 range. Not correct. TH10 has the following resource penalties: vs TH10: 100% vs TH9: 90% vs TH8: 50% vs TH7: 25%
So really, what you're going to be missing is the easy TH8 bases. I'm in crystal 2, but there are plenty of TH9 bases there (I'd say about 1/3), and there's only the occasional TH8. The bonus does indeed make a big difference, I'm getting 65k/65k/300, but there aren't very many unguarded town halls to snipe (there are a decent amount in crystal 3).
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Canada6330 Posts
Mid-TH8 here. Air sweeper lvl1 is kind of underwhelming... and 3d is sort of steep going 1->2 so it's on hold in my upgrade priorities.
Apparently I'm doing it wrong because the air sweeper ended up kind of pushing the dragons in to my AA's in some side angle push action (as opposed to dragons wandering the outer edges of my base while taking free hits).
For me it's a good 2x2 placeholder because only 3 teslas and WTB symmetry.
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Yeah, from what I've seen, it doesn't do a great deal. I think they just wanted to strengthen anti-air a little bit as at the top level, you would see hound/balloon all the time. The sweeper is best vs balloon, as it can hit multiple and they're really slow (10 vs 16 movement speed for dragons).
I had expected it to have fewer cheaper upgrades at first, so they could balance the sweeper later on, but they've already put in a lvl 6 upgrade for 7.2m. Odd.
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http://i.imgur.com/4sF8AGf.jpg
Hi,
How would you attack? We're doing a TH10-less clan war so I'm pretty nervous as I'm to attack him. Normally I'd go for a lazy 2 star GoWiWi but I want to try a 3*.
What would be a good troop combination with spells? My concern is the queen in the center. I was honestly thinking HoLo or HoLoWiWi. A lot of the defenses in the outer ring can be exposed by a loon or two.
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On May 03 2015 10:13 aseq wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2015 07:37 fishjie wrote: I'm wondering how to raid as a TH 10. Everything will cost close to 8 million gold or elixer to upgrade I imagine. There is a 50% penalty hitting TH9 and an additional 50% for hitting TH8. My bread and butter are TH8 right now in crystal 3 / gold 1 who have crap walls / defenses. Losing that source of income will suck when I do TH10. TH9 bases, with the exception of the rare freemiums, will have xbows which makes everything trickier. Barch probably won't be nearly as effective. And the freemium TH9 are so rare because everyone hits those, from TH8 to TH10. I'm thinking if I push higher up into crystal 1 the loot will get worse, but the bonus will compensate. Maybe that's how I'll get my upgrades in.
Right now crystal 3 pays out 30k in loot, and crystal 2 pays out 50k. In crystal 2 range there aren't very many easy bases with lots of resources, so I dropped back to gold 1 and crystal 3 range. Not correct. TH10 has the following resource penalties: vs TH10: 100% vs TH9: 90% vs TH8: 50% vs TH7: 25% So really, what you're going to be missing is the easy TH8 bases. I'm in crystal 2, but there are plenty of TH9 bases there (I'd say about 1/3), and there's only the occasional TH8. The bonus does indeed make a big difference, I'm getting 65k/65k/300, but there aren't very many unguarded town halls to snipe (there are a decent amount in crystal 3).
oh its only a 10% penalty for attacking a base one TH level lower than yours?
Hmmm.... maybe i'll upgrade to TH10 rather than later. Will get to skull walls first
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On May 14 2015 02:30 Fazers wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4sF8AGf.jpgHi, How would you attack? We're doing a TH10-less clan war so I'm pretty nervous as I'm to attack him. Normally I'd go for a lazy 2 star GoWiWi but I want to try a 3*. What would be a good troop combination with spells? My concern is the queen in the center. I was honestly thinking HoLo or HoLoWiWi. A lot of the defenses in the outer ring can be exposed by a loon or two.
Just do 3x or 4x lava + loons, probably a 50/50 shot of 3 or 2 stars
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On May 14 2015 02:30 Fazers wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4sF8AGf.jpgHi, How would you attack? We're doing a TH10-less clan war so I'm pretty nervous as I'm to attack him. Normally I'd go for a lazy 2 star GoWiWi but I want to try a 3*. What would be a good troop combination with spells? My concern is the queen in the center. I was honestly thinking HoLo or HoLoWiWi. A lot of the defenses in the outer ring can be exposed by a loon or two. Logowiwi. 3 golems, 3 witches, 9 wiz 9 wb and 8 loons, wiz in ur cc.
Pick one side to deploy on and use ur wallbreakers to make sure ur golems and witches get into the first wall layer, then use a jump spell to get everything into the middle. Drop loons where air defenses won't get em.
I've been destroying maxed th9s with this recently
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On May 15 2015 03:35 Aveng3r wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 02:30 Fazers wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4sF8AGf.jpgHi, How would you attack? We're doing a TH10-less clan war so I'm pretty nervous as I'm to attack him. Normally I'd go for a lazy 2 star GoWiWi but I want to try a 3*. What would be a good troop combination with spells? My concern is the queen in the center. I was honestly thinking HoLo or HoLoWiWi. A lot of the defenses in the outer ring can be exposed by a loon or two. Logowiwi. 3 golems, 3 witches, 9 wiz 9 wb and 8 loons, wiz in ur cc. Pick one side to deploy on and use ur wallbreakers to make sure ur golems and witches get into the first wall layer, then use a jump spell to get everything into the middle. Drop loons where air defenses won't get em. I've been destroying maxed th9s with this recently
Good stuff. I fucked up my HoLoWiWi and got 1*, but we're winning by a lot right now.
What about spell comp? 1jump 3 heals?
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On May 15 2015 04:12 Fazers wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 03:35 Aveng3r wrote:On May 14 2015 02:30 Fazers wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4sF8AGf.jpgHi, How would you attack? We're doing a TH10-less clan war so I'm pretty nervous as I'm to attack him. Normally I'd go for a lazy 2 star GoWiWi but I want to try a 3*. What would be a good troop combination with spells? My concern is the queen in the center. I was honestly thinking HoLo or HoLoWiWi. A lot of the defenses in the outer ring can be exposed by a loon or two. Logowiwi. 3 golems, 3 witches, 9 wiz 9 wb and 8 loons, wiz in ur cc. Pick one side to deploy on and use ur wallbreakers to make sure ur golems and witches get into the first wall layer, then use a jump spell to get everything into the middle. Drop loons where air defenses won't get em. I've been destroying maxed th9s with this recently Good stuff. I fucked up my HoLoWiWi and got 1*, but we're winning by a lot right now. What about spell comp? 1jump 3 heals? 2 heal 2 rage for me, maybe a jump if u think u need it
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On May 15 2015 09:14 Aveng3r wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 04:12 Fazers wrote:On May 15 2015 03:35 Aveng3r wrote:On May 14 2015 02:30 Fazers wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4sF8AGf.jpgHi, How would you attack? We're doing a TH10-less clan war so I'm pretty nervous as I'm to attack him. Normally I'd go for a lazy 2 star GoWiWi but I want to try a 3*. What would be a good troop combination with spells? My concern is the queen in the center. I was honestly thinking HoLo or HoLoWiWi. A lot of the defenses in the outer ring can be exposed by a loon or two. Logowiwi. 3 golems, 3 witches, 9 wiz 9 wb and 8 loons, wiz in ur cc. Pick one side to deploy on and use ur wallbreakers to make sure ur golems and witches get into the first wall layer, then use a jump spell to get everything into the middle. Drop loons where air defenses won't get em. I've been destroying maxed th9s with this recently Good stuff. I fucked up my HoLoWiWi and got 1*, but we're winning by a lot right now. What about spell comp? 1jump 3 heals? 2 heal 2 rage for me, maybe a jump if u think u need it Got the 3* for the first time I ever did on my second attack, vs another maxed TH9.
Any other TH9 strats that's not full out air attack?
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On May 21 2015 01:13 Fazers wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 09:14 Aveng3r wrote:On May 15 2015 04:12 Fazers wrote:On May 15 2015 03:35 Aveng3r wrote:On May 14 2015 02:30 Fazers wrote:http://i.imgur.com/4sF8AGf.jpgHi, How would you attack? We're doing a TH10-less clan war so I'm pretty nervous as I'm to attack him. Normally I'd go for a lazy 2 star GoWiWi but I want to try a 3*. What would be a good troop combination with spells? My concern is the queen in the center. I was honestly thinking HoLo or HoLoWiWi. A lot of the defenses in the outer ring can be exposed by a loon or two. Logowiwi. 3 golems, 3 witches, 9 wiz 9 wb and 8 loons, wiz in ur cc. Pick one side to deploy on and use ur wallbreakers to make sure ur golems and witches get into the first wall layer, then use a jump spell to get everything into the middle. Drop loons where air defenses won't get em. I've been destroying maxed th9s with this recently Good stuff. I fucked up my HoLoWiWi and got 1*, but we're winning by a lot right now. What about spell comp? 1jump 3 heals? 2 heal 2 rage for me, maybe a jump if u think u need it Got the 3* for the first time I ever did on my second attack, vs another maxed TH9. Any other TH9 strats that's not full out air attack? a clan member used a golem hog attack, where the idea was to use a golem and a jump spell to distract the queen before deploying hogs. As far as I saw it worked great against maxed th9s
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So how do people control Clash/phone games in general.
Two thumbs feels most natural to me but with smallish HTC One S screen and manthumbs it's a bit clumsy.
Placing phone on some surface and using both index fingers seems more effective but it looks and feels dumb and I don't always have a surface available.
Then there's the 3rd chose of holding phone with one hand and controlling with 1 index finger but that seems ineffective.
As you can guess I've not done much phone gaming since the original NOKIA Snake.
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I usually only check stuff / donate on my phone. When I want to attack, I'll change to iPad mini and use 2 thumbs (sometimes boost rax and put on twitch stream / series / movie in the background).
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Canada6330 Posts
I rotate my phone landscape. Hold with left hand. Do everything with right hand, mostly index + middle. When deploying barcher I double touch+hold+drag and depending on max zoom and base layout, use fingers 2+3 or 2+4 whichever I feel more comfortable. I am old man gaming. Also I consider myself pretty dexterous as I am also a pianist.
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Do you guys think it's worth it to completely max a th9?
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On May 24 2015 09:05 Aveng3r wrote: Do you guys think it's worth it to completely max a th9?
depends in what sense (though that might be a dumb thing to say)
loot at th10 sucks pretty bad, so at a minimum get all your defenses and troops maxxed out. maybe you dont need all lvl 10 walls and you might want to stop at a certain point for heroes, but basically otherwise yes.
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The consensus is that you need heroes as high as you can just to be able to farm in th10
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I've got about 30 walls to lvl 10 and heroes are 13 and 10, I'm gonna stay th9 till I max one of them first
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I think that's way over the top. I've been in TH10 since level 100, there has been no problem farming. My walls weren't even level 8 at that time (mind you, there was no walls from elixir at that time). I went up as soon as I couldn't spend my elixir.
People forget that the loot penalty for a TH10 vs a TH9 is 10%. And that you get that extra dark elixir drill, which makes heroes level faster. And 2 inferno towers, which ensure people don't raid your base when you're farming.
As it is now, you can dump your elixir, so I'd go up as soon as your building upgrades are done. I wouldn't spend my gold on walls (post level 8).
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I definitely agree that it a little over the top and that extra drill will really help with the heroes, I just really like the idea of a th10 with lvl 10 walls and 2 inferno towers. I think that is a really really tough cookie to crack in the wars
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Aveng3r, I'm in the same boat as you.
My queen is 11, King is 10.
Have ~50 level 10 walls.
THIS IS SOOOOO BORING. But I have several clanmates in TH10 right now that have mixed opinions - some seem to fill their storages over time quite nicely, and some say the loot is bad.
Idk what to do. But heroes are still too low, thats for sure.
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Hehe, I don't even have 30 level 10 walls. I even have some level 8 walls to upgrade as well. So you guys are way ahead of me. But those don't matter that much in a war, people will break or jump them anyway. My heroes are 29 and 26 though. Good luck with that 200 * 3 million .
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Aseq what trophy range to u raid in? I usually hang out around 1700 or so but recently I've been barching around 2200
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On May 26 2015 18:26 aseq wrote:Hehe, I don't even have 30 level 10 walls. I even have some level 8 walls to upgrade as well. So you guys are way ahead of me. But those don't matter that much in a war, people will break or jump them anyway. My heroes are 29 and 26 though. Good luck with that 200 * 3 million .
i just think lava looks sexy. i dont think ill upgrade to zaps though, rofl
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I'm currently raiding in 2300-2400. But I'm by no means an expert on that. The best may be slightly lower, about crystal 3. I think i'm noticing that the higher you go, way fewer people forget to empty their collectors. Which is what I'm living off. Lower than 2000 and you start to see more TH8's which you (if TH10) don't want. When I don't pay attention to trophies and I just raid for loot (making that 1 star purely for the loot bonus when possible) I tend to go up in trophies slowly.
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Just got back into masters for the first time in a while, I think I'm gonna try for champ and see if I can make it
Near maxed th9,only thing I have left is walls to lvl 10 and heroes
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Clan lvl 5 is nice! There's only 10 of us that war so it took a while but it was well worth the wait
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I'd like a 2nd spell factory
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On June 29 2015 02:08 SagaZ wrote: I'd like a 2nd spell factory Or reductions of spell build times. I think building 5 spells should cost about the same length of time as a full army from 4 barracks (I'd say about 1.5 hours instead of the 3 hours it takes me now).
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thought I would check in here real quick and see if there were any war players looking for a team. looking for non rushed bases with plenty of offensive capabilities
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I know this thread wasn't active for a long time. Still I want to ask, are there any active CoC players on TL? I started playing a year ago and would like to join an active clan. I am th9, no rushed th. My gf also would like to join. Sie is th8, a bit less active than me.
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Does anyone still play this shit? I'm looking for a new clan that is casual but still participates in wars. Thanks!
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