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Robert Ohlen talks on DH, says "I was f*cked" - Page 6

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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 30 2014 00:35 GMT
#101
On October 30 2014 09:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 09:23 aseq wrote:
Is there no DH (former) employee who can shed more light on the situation? Going by this interview it sounds like his father should never see his grandchildren again, but with all the employees siding with his dad, I think we should really know more about this before judging.


I don't think Robert has children, no?


According to the article either him or his wife have 4 kids

"His wife is a student at the London School of Economics and he has four children to support."
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 30 2014 00:50 GMT
#102
On October 30 2014 06:43 Oakenshield wrote:
"Before I die I want to make a Dreamhack U.S."

-Robert Ohlen revealing a prophecy to Hotbid in their 2013 interview.


dun dun DUN



I doubt it means anything but the possibility of him working with MLG in the future against his former employer is pretty funny.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 30 2014 00:58 GMT
#103
On October 30 2014 09:35 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 09:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 30 2014 09:23 aseq wrote:
Is there no DH (former) employee who can shed more light on the situation? Going by this interview it sounds like his father should never see his grandchildren again, but with all the employees siding with his dad, I think we should really know more about this before judging.


I don't think Robert has children, no?


According to the article either him or his wife have 4 kids

"His wife is a student at the London School of Economics and he has four children to support."


Wowzers.

Coming from a family four, that shit's rough!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 30 2014 00:59 GMT
#104
On October 30 2014 09:50 Heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 06:43 Oakenshield wrote:
"Before I die I want to make a Dreamhack U.S."

-Robert Ohlen revealing a prophecy to Hotbid in their 2013 interview.


dun dun DUN

https://twitter.com/MLGSundance/status/527578526963466240

I doubt it means anything but the possibility of him working with MLG in the future against his former employer is pretty funny.


I'd be very surprised if this worked out for a variety of reasons.
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aeligos
Profile Joined January 2013
United States172 Posts
October 30 2014 01:24 GMT
#105
HomeStory is where its at people.

TakeTV ftw!!
libera te tvtemet ex inferis A.'.A.'.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 30 2014 02:03 GMT
#106
It's still hard to decipher what the hell really happened lol.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
October 30 2014 02:04 GMT
#107
I'm guessing dreamhack is worth millions, tens of millions, maybe more?

So his father better have some damn good reasons for withholding 50% of the shares, other than his opinion about his son. Maybe not legally, but morally he's basically stealing millions of dollars.
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 02:31:33
October 30 2014 02:29 GMT
#108
On October 30 2014 11:04 igotmyown wrote:
I'm guessing dreamhack is worth millions, tens of millions, maybe more?

So his father better have some damn good reasons for withholding 50% of the shares, other than his opinion about his son. Maybe not legally, but morally he's basically stealing millions of dollars.

Well but you also have to see the other side. Where did he get the money to buy 50% of DH in the first place? If his dad gave him the money for it, it's not as much as stealing as is getting it back. Not saying this is what happened and that I agree with the movement either way, just a thought. My father got the money to buy his/my house from his father, and he just gave him the money no strings attached, but it's in his right to ask for the money back.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
October 30 2014 02:30 GMT
#109
It's hard to tell what will really happen to him now.

This kind of financial strain on a family can create conflict between a man and his wife.

But if conflict doesn't destroy their relationship, it will make it stronger.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
October 30 2014 05:51 GMT
#110
I really hope that Robert finds a way to stay in esports, as long as he can make enough to support his family. People like him and Carmac really help a tournament have a unique personality.
BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 06:32:42
October 30 2014 06:27 GMT
#111
So basically, Robert gave away all his shares and therefore his legal ownership of DH to his father for free. He calls it for "tactical, legal" reasons, but for all legal reasons, he lost DH right then and there regardless of his father's motivations in the future, with no leverage to hold nor collateral from his father, all because he had some "tacit understanding".

In any other (rest) business, this move is at best comical and at worst suicidal.

As much he insists that DH and his father fucked him over, it only happened because he fucked himself over first. And this is just only knowing his side of the story. Have to wonder his father's and DH's side of the story is.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
October 30 2014 06:56 GMT
#112
On October 30 2014 15:27 BirdKiller wrote:
So basically, Robert gave away all his shares and therefore his legal ownership of DH to his father for free. He calls it for "tactical, legal" reasons, but for all legal reasons, he lost DH right then and there regardless of his father's motivations in the future, with no leverage to hold nor collateral from his father, all because he had some "tacit understanding".

In any other (rest) business, this move is at best comical and at worst suicidal.

As much he insists that DH and his father fucked him over, it only happened because he fucked himself over first. And this is just only knowing his side of the story. Have to wonder his father's and DH's side of the story is.

If fucking youself equals trusting the guy that brought you into the world, then you're right. But only then.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 30 2014 07:20 GMT
#113
On October 30 2014 09:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 09:23 aseq wrote:
Is there no DH (former) employee who can shed more light on the situation? Going by this interview it sounds like his father should never see his grandchildren again, but with all the employees siding with his dad, I think we should really know more about this before judging.


I don't think Robert has children, no?

4 of them.

And a wife
In the woods, there lurks..
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
October 30 2014 07:51 GMT
#114
I find it funny how he says he relates to The Sopranos now more than ever. With Tony Soprano ? I would so like to hear the truth in this matter, but i'm guessing that will never happen.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
October 30 2014 07:52 GMT
#115
Not really interested in more drama TBH, just hope everything works out for the better.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Avs
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (North)857 Posts
October 30 2014 09:17 GMT
#116
On October 30 2014 16:51 TheRidd wrote:
I find it funny how he says he relates to The Sopranos now more than ever. With Tony Soprano ? I would so like to hear the truth in this matter, but i'm guessing that will never happen.


That's actually a sign that he might be losing it though. Honestly who do you trust. The guy who just lost everything and says he was screwed by everyone? Or the organization which doesn't want to lose face over something that's just business. If you worked for Dreamhack, do you trust a CEO who gives up all his power to protect anyone including yourself? No. Basically...one perspective is that Robert fucked himself. What is "tactical legal reasons"? What happened to lawyers? Why not transfer it to his wife? Nothing really makes sense yet but everyone wants to take sides.
levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
October 30 2014 09:29 GMT
#117
I'd be very reluctant to accept this account at face value since no one in it seems to be acting rationally. Giving away shares? Screwing over your own son without apparent reason?
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19346 Posts
October 30 2014 09:31 GMT
#118
It's a preview to the Game of Thrones new season
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bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
October 30 2014 09:36 GMT
#119
On October 30 2014 18:31 icystorage wrote:
It's a preview to the Game of Thrones new season


I think there is more senseless violence here than in GoT... But hopefully less blood.
pretensile
Profile Joined August 2010
135 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 09:51:15
October 30 2014 09:37 GMT
#120
There are too many logical leaps of faith and information holes in this story to place much credence in his account of the story. The crux of his tale lies in these declarations: a) Mr. Ohlen transfers the entirety of his holdings to his father... for reasons entirely undisclosed. b) His father refuses to return these shares to him... out of pure greed. c) The Dreamhack staff unilaterally withdraws their support of Mr. Ohlen... again, without reason.

I'm not condemning Mr. Ohlen by any means, but there is so much intentional withholding of vital details, and his telling is so one-sided and lacking in nuance, it's very difficult to attach a large amount of credibility to what he is saying. For most logical, rational people, accounts that are essentially extremely lopsided demonizations of another party should always ring some alarm bells.
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