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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
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Mannerheim
766 Posts
On May 22 2013 18:34 NIIINO wrote: Guys please. Do you remember seeing SC1 for the 1st time ? Look how it end up. Same with HL1. Do not bash something as long as its not out. A lot of things can change they can release it in 2 years even they said that thay want it in 2013 That comparison doesn't really make sense. SC was a new franchise, people had barely any expectations for it, but it turned out really good. With Xbox1 people were expecting a better, next-gen version of Xbox360, and so far it doesn't look anything like it. It doesn't even look like a gaming console, more like a all-purpose media appliance for which I have no use. | ||
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cozzE
Australia357 Posts
On May 22 2013 18:34 NIIINO wrote: Guys please. Do you remember seeing SC1 for the 1st time ? Look how it end up. Same with HL1. Do not bash something as long as its not out. A lot of things can change they can release it in 2 years even they said that thay want it in 2013 What do you mean, there's nothing of any substance to bash? The Xbox announcement just paved the way for me to buy a PS4. What a gimmick of an event.. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
The reason 360 was a success is it was very simple to program for while the PS3 make it a nightmare for developers and 360 was released a year ahead of PS3. This time if PS4 manage to come out first which they are going to, I dont see any reason to pick up a new gen Xbox. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Arghmyliver
United States1081 Posts
On May 22 2013 18:50 Nekovivie wrote: I really dont understand why you would design it to not have backwards compatibility. Theres a lot of great 360 games that will never get played now, because not many people are going to buy a 360 who doesn't already have one. They'll buy the latest console. Naw man it'd be way too hard to charge fees for playing 360 games. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
Tell me, specifically how Xbox One doesn't focus on games? The fact that Xbox One has better multimedia features than PS4 doesn't take anything away from "focusing on games" (whatever that's suppose to mean, no one can specifically say). It's not a zero-sum game. Some people say that Xbox One lacks features like backwards compatibility. Well, then argue that it lacks backwards compatibility, or whatever other feature it is that you don't like, and don't throw out meaningless babble like "Xbox One doesn't focus on games". Be specific. | ||
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Mannerheim
766 Posts
On May 22 2013 19:00 paralleluniverse wrote: There are many complaints that Xbox One isn't focused on games like how PS4 is. But this is just lazy, completely vague and utterly substanceless fluff. Tell me, specifically how Xbox One doesn't focus on games? The fact that Xbox One has better multimedia features than PS4 doesn't take anything away from "focusing on games" (whatever that's suppose to mean, no one can specifically say). It's not a zero-sum game. Some people say that Xbox One lacks features like backwards compatibility. Well, then argue that it lacks backwards compatibility, or whatever other feature it is that you don't like, and don't throw out meaningless babble like "Xbox One doesn't focus on games". Be specific. The problem is that the more multimedia functionality it has, the more expensive it is to manufacture, thus increasing the price. I only want a gaming console, why pay "extra" for all this stuff I don't want or need? | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On May 22 2013 18:50 Nekovivie wrote: I really dont understand why you would design it to not have backwards compatibility. Theres a lot of great 360 games that will never get played now, because not many people are going to buy a 360 who doesn't already have one. They'll buy the latest console. I also don't understand why it doesn't have backwards compatibility, but not in the usual sense. What I really don't understand is why the concept of "backwards compatibility" isn't extinct yet. When's the last time someone announced that a digital games platform like Steam doesn't have backwards compatibility. Never, because such a concept makes no sense in the context of computer games. Given that a Xbox One is basically a PC with an operating system, and given that Xbox Live is essentially Steam, why don't they just sell Xbox 360 games on Xbox Live which can be downloaded on Xbox One? Then the whole notion of backward compatibility would simply cease to be, like on Steam. | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On May 22 2013 16:12 virpi wrote: call me oldfashioned, but I use consoles to play video games. I'm not interested in media center enternainment fluff'n'stuff social feature shenanigans, I don't even watch TV. There might be a market in the US for these features, which makes their design decisions understandable from a marketing point of view, but for me as an almost thirty years old gamer, they're not very appealing. The name of the thing is just a complete failure, what were they thinking? While xbox 720 may not have been the best solution (as others have already said there's that 720p problem), but why in the world would you name the third incarnation of a console "one"? is it that reboot stuff (like in star trek, tomb raider and everywhere else)? or is it supposed to mean something like "all you've ever wanted is now in ONE console"? Hell, even "Triple XBox" would have been better. (they could have made spots with vin diesel, how awesome would that have been?) If they had named it the XXXBox and made it feature apps from all the popular porn streaming sites as well as reduced subscription fees to brazzers and bangbros it would have become the most popular console ever, reaching out to all kinds of new demographics. Now I'm not so sure. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On May 22 2013 19:05 Mannerheim wrote: The problem is that the more multimedia functionality it has, the more expensive it is to manufacture, thus increasing the price. I only want a gaming console, why pay "extra" for all this stuff I don't want or need? I don't hear people complaining about the price. I hear people complaining about the ambiguous and amorphous lack of "focus on games". If you want to complain about price, then complain about price. Oh wait. They haven't announced the price. Complaining about the lack of focus on games is basically a catch-all phrase for "every damn thing I hate about Xbox One", without specifying anything at all about what you hate about Xbox One. | ||
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TheToaster
United States280 Posts
Console gaming is dead. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On May 22 2013 19:13 TheToaster wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw Console gaming is dead. Tell me specifically what gaming feature is missing. More TV features != less gaming features. | ||
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Mannerheim
766 Posts
("Call of Duty now has a dog" is not a gaming feature) edit: okay this looks like one: http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/building-xbox-one-an-inside-look/ "We purposefully did not target the highest end graphics. We targeted it more as a broad entertainment play." (at the 5:43-minute-mark) | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On May 22 2013 19:19 paralleluniverse wrote: Tell me specifically what gaming feature is missing. More TV features != less gaming features. You mean like backwards compatibility, inability to use borrowed/rented/second hand game and lacking performance compared to its closest rival? | ||
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TheToaster
United States280 Posts
On May 22 2013 19:19 paralleluniverse wrote: Tell me specifically what gaming feature is missing. More TV features != less gaming features. - No compatibility with Xbox 360 games. - Can't share games between different consoles. (aka DRM) - No exciting game announcements, just the same old milked cows that 360 had. (CoD and Halo) | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
On May 22 2013 19:05 Mannerheim wrote: The problem is that the more multimedia functionality it has, the more expensive it is to manufacture, thus increasing the price. I only want a gaming console, why pay "extra" for all this stuff I don't want or need? Rubbish. Other than the Kinect (something quite cheap to produce and might not add to the end cost at all), everything else extra you get in the XBox doesn't cost anything extra when compared to the PS4. It's software features from a software company. That's not to say XBox will be cheaper than PS4, or that it'll be dearer. We in fact have no idea whatsoever, but I can guarantee the software features won't add (directly) to the cost of the device. If you want to buy the cheaper of the two consoles, do so, but you have no idea which one that will be at this stage. I was thinking definitely PS4 prior to this announcement, but the software features are a complete game changer. I was thinking PS4 because it's reportedly slightly more powerful graphics wise...but unless the gap is larger than rumoured, I'll be going XBox for certain. P.S. Even though I'm now thinking I'll get one, the XBox One has a stupid name and looks ugly, thank god I keep my consoles inside a cabinet. | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
On May 22 2013 16:36 Armagreen wrote: + Show Spoiler + Have you seen that? (WARNING: a lot of cursing in the video) What do you think about his opinion? Because I saw that yesterday and honestly I have to agree with him in almost every statement. He literally nailed it. As a non console gamer but looking forward to buy one... when I can buy the PS4? | ||
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