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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 18:17:55
June 10 2013 18:16 GMT
#2081
Ouch, $500 is damn hard, but if the PS4 comes out at the same price point (which they probably will), then it's going to still be an even draw, but I really think the Xbox One will win after 4-5 years if MS actually delivers on the Kinect/Windows interfacing as the technology matures since lots of people still think it's a gimmick now. That'll probably happen unless the PS4 starts crushing the Xbox in graphics/game quality in 2-3 years I mean.

Still, $500 is huge, but the PS2 came out at like $450 or something no? I'm not going to get any console day 1 but it's still a lot to pay. I wonder what their long term support plans for the One are.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Killerkrack
Profile Joined August 2010
664 Posts
June 10 2013 18:16 GMT
#2082
On June 11 2013 03:15 pyro19 wrote:
I think the best game shown was MGS5
and it's Multiplatform

Same old MS

Just watched the trailer for it....I'd have to agree.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 18:16:48
June 10 2013 18:16 GMT
#2083
On June 11 2013 03:13 Fruscainte wrote:
If the PS4 has proper price conversion they win Europe just like that.

If the PS4 is $400 USD regardless, they win everything.


PS4 is estimated to be around $400 USD.
Analyst estimated it to be around that price.

PS4 has better hardware also.

You are right.

If PS4 price is cheaper.
They win everything.

Plus, Sony won't make the same mistake when they launched PS3 in 2006 at $599 price that was crazy expensive.
Play your best
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
June 10 2013 18:16 GMT
#2084
Isn't 499 the price at which the original Xbox launched? PS3 was even more expensive, iirc.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 10 2013 18:16 GMT
#2085
Only interesting thing was MGSV and it's for PC so why bother with getting an Xbone for that?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 18:18:35
June 10 2013 18:17 GMT
#2086
On June 11 2013 03:06 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 02:58 Elwar wrote:
On June 11 2013 02:57 xDaunt wrote:
On June 11 2013 02:56 Elwar wrote:
On June 11 2013 02:55 Djzapz wrote:
Halo with cloud computing what?

Cloud computing is just anything that would normally be called online, including matchmaking, uploads, replays etc.

Its marketing, lol.

It's more than that. There was an article that I saw a couple weeks ago that XBone will tap into cloud computing for game rendering.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-in-theory-can-xbox-one-cloud-transform-gaming

Analysis by techies^

Nutshell, its marketing.

Cruised through the article. Basically they say that it's all "marketing" until there's a demo showing otherwise. We'll just have to see.

I havent read the article yet, but the way I imagine it to work with something like Forza 5 is that your AI file is saved locally (shouldnt be more than 50kb of data really) or uploaded to the cloud, then when you play with AI friends it downloads the AI files to be ran locally by your machine. So it really isnt being enhanced by cloud computing, it is just storing a small bit of data. The PS4 could probably achieve similar by downloading updated AI directly from a friends console rather than the cloud.
On June 11 2013 03:16 maartendq wrote:
Isn't 499 the price at which the original Xbox launched? PS3 was even more expensive, iirc.

360 was $399 at release for the expensive model with a 20GB HDD, $299 for the base
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
June 10 2013 18:17 GMT
#2087
On June 11 2013 03:16 Blisse wrote:
Ouch, $500 is damn hard

Didn't they say 499€, too? That's even more ridiculous.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 10 2013 18:18 GMT
#2088
On June 11 2013 03:16 amazingxkcd wrote:
Only interesting thing was MGSV and it's for PC so why bother with getting an Xbone for that?


XBONE exclusive was all meh.

But historically, Sony always deliver great exclusives.
Their PS3 had the best exclusive games.
Play your best
Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
June 10 2013 18:18 GMT
#2089
500 fucking euros... pc is the way!
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 10 2013 18:18 GMT
#2090
Sony wins almost all of Europe and Japan almost by default. It's about being competitive in the US right now. Architecture and price were their two biggest issues with the PS3 imo. They fixed one of those things.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 10 2013 18:18 GMT
#2091
On June 11 2013 03:17 Ljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 03:16 Blisse wrote:
Ouch, $500 is damn hard

Didn't they say 499€, too? That's even more ridiculous.


Something of 449 pounds too.

Also, PS4 shouldn't be close to $500, it doesn't have a Kinect forced to be packaged in it. It'll be closer to $400.
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
June 10 2013 18:19 GMT
#2092
On June 11 2013 03:17 TheRabidDeer wrote:I havent read the article yet, but the way I imagine it to work with something like Forza 5 is that your AI file is saved locally (shouldnt be more than 50kb of data really) or uploaded to the cloud, then when you play with AI friends it downloads the AI files to be ran locally by your machine. So it really isnt being enhanced by cloud computing, it is just storing a small bit of data. The PS4 could probably achieve similar by downloading updated AI directly from a friends console rather than the cloud.

Thats exactly what it was.
Its just stuff being rebranded. Imagine a game like Dark Souls, the leaving messages and interacting in another players world becomes "the power of the cloud".
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
June 10 2013 18:19 GMT
#2093
I can't wait to play all the games I cared about on my PC and save the $500
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
Grr Arr Rawr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 18:21:07
June 10 2013 18:19 GMT
#2094
On June 11 2013 03:05 Womwomwom wrote:At this point, all Sony really needs to do is show that they've got a decent online infrastructure this time round, get Kaz Hirai to announce that the PS4 will be $399, drop the mic and end the conference 40 minute early.


"We aren't putting the NSA in your living room. Now here's some trailers, peace out, bitches!" *mic drop*
You can't rhyme against the dark side of the Force, why even bother? So many dudes been with your mom, who even KNOWS if I'm your father!
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
June 10 2013 18:20 GMT
#2095
On June 11 2013 03:14 Go0g3n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 03:10 s3rp wrote:
On June 11 2013 03:03 Go0g3n wrote:
A good HTPC or Media Center PC that can also play every modern game will set you back a lot more.


Considering i already have both those things ( like most people that are the demographic for this ) increasing the price for features i don't need is not a good idea. Give me that as bonus i can get for extra money but don't force me to pay for redundent shit.


If gaming is one's entertainment of choice, a 50-100$ price difference should not matter at all in a 5-7 year console lifespan.


A penny saved is a penny earned no matter how much money i personally own . I set personal marks what i'm willing to spend on stuff and 500€ for a gaming console is way over that mark. I'm not willing to spend beyond 250€ for a console thats my personal mark already set for the next generation . Which means i'm not getting either on launch i guess .
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
June 10 2013 18:22 GMT
#2096
On June 11 2013 03:19 Elwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 03:17 TheRabidDeer wrote:I havent read the article yet, but the way I imagine it to work with something like Forza 5 is that your AI file is saved locally (shouldnt be more than 50kb of data really) or uploaded to the cloud, then when you play with AI friends it downloads the AI files to be ran locally by your machine. So it really isnt being enhanced by cloud computing, it is just storing a small bit of data. The PS4 could probably achieve similar by downloading updated AI directly from a friends console rather than the cloud.

Thats exactly what it was.
Its just stuff being rebranded. Imagine a game like Dark Souls, the leaving messages and interacting in another players world becomes "the power of the cloud".

Yep, pretty much. Dark Souls is the power of cloud gaming.

BTW, when is the sony conference?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 10 2013 18:22 GMT
#2097
Think of that 500 dollar price tag you also have to pay for multiplayer etc.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 10 2013 18:22 GMT
#2098
On June 11 2013 03:18 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 03:16 amazingxkcd wrote:
Only interesting thing was MGSV and it's for PC so why bother with getting an Xbone for that?


XBONE exclusive was all meh.

But historically, Sony always deliver great exclusives.
Their PS3 had the best exclusive games.

Nintendo has the best exclusives tbh... Too bad that's all they have.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 10 2013 18:24 GMT
#2099
On June 11 2013 03:22 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 03:19 Elwar wrote:
On June 11 2013 03:17 TheRabidDeer wrote:I havent read the article yet, but the way I imagine it to work with something like Forza 5 is that your AI file is saved locally (shouldnt be more than 50kb of data really) or uploaded to the cloud, then when you play with AI friends it downloads the AI files to be ran locally by your machine. So it really isnt being enhanced by cloud computing, it is just storing a small bit of data. The PS4 could probably achieve similar by downloading updated AI directly from a friends console rather than the cloud.

Thats exactly what it was.
Its just stuff being rebranded. Imagine a game like Dark Souls, the leaving messages and interacting in another players world becomes "the power of the cloud".

Yep, pretty much. Dark Souls is the power of cloud gaming.

BTW, when is the sony conference?


6 hours and 30 mins.
Play your best
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 10 2013 18:24 GMT
#2100
On June 11 2013 03:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Think of that 500 dollar price tag you also have to pay for multiplayer etc.

Rumors flying around there may only be XBL gold and no more silver. Imagine the horror if true .
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