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Vexatious
Profile Joined April 2013
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 01:07:22
April 05 2013 16:35 GMT
#1
Hello!
I am going to build this up in the first post; and continue to add resources for aspiring shoutcasters/commentators. My first goal is to see if any kind of BBcode on the forum allows me to change the font size.

I was originally going to put this in the general SC2 area, but I realized that it stems much farther than just SC2.

I did do a search and the most recent one was from a couple years ago. Another user did agree with the idea that I had to make a centralized post about shoutcasting, personalities, and things to do to improve ones ability while commentating a game.

Below will be where I will begin adding all the information I can find.
Please please please!

Add your two cents below with links, information that should be added, or other suggestions that you have about this idea. My biggest thing is formatting the post in an attractive manor. I want this to be a great source of information in this blooming sport that keep doubling every year in viewership.

GL HF!


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WELCOME!

This thread will help you learn what it takes to be a shoutcaster/esports commentator, resources for improving yourself, and links to many other popular personalities out in the esports community!

Want to see other pro's in the field? Watch their videos on youtube to get an idea of the level you quickly need to get up to. MLG is also a great place to watch as the watch live games while co-casting with another caster.

  • Starcraft
  • Mike "Husky" Lamond Youtube
  • Sean Plott "Day9" Youtube
  • John Bain "TotalBiscuit" Youtube

  • DOTA2
  • Toby Dawson "TobiWan" (has videos on)---> http://www.youtube.com/joinDOTA

  • LoL
  • RiotKobe (Only Link Is A Twitter?) Twitter Page




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Practice Practice Practice!
It will take a while to get used to talking to yourself. Whatever game you want to cast, make sure you know the metagame. If you don't, start learning it. The best way to learn everything? Watch live games/replays and cast them! If you know how, record them using a program such as fraps, encode it and upload it to youtube.

In a clan? Start asking to watch their games or for them to post/send their replays your way. If you do upload them, you already have a potential viewer right there because they were in the game you just uploaded!

When you are speaking about what is going on, here are some tips;
  • Do your best to not have empty air time. That being said, you also don't want to say "uhhhh" during it or repeat something over and over. Say something interesting, talk about what you suspect might be the outcome, add what you know about the map or players that are currently being viewed. This keeps your viewer interested, especially in the early game when there isn't really all that much going on!
  • If you do upload anything to youtube, quality is a huge deal. Nobody enjoys watching replays at 480p; Any of the pro casters above are great choices for quality.
  • Diction Diction Diction! So important. If you can't have diction at a fast talking speed, it would be better to talk slower and work your way up to being able to talk quickly.
  • A glass of water goes a long way if you can sneak in a quick drink in between sentences. It does wonders at clearing the throat and redampaning it. You'll be surprised how dry your throat gets while you talk for twenty to forty minutes straight.



Professionalism

Now, this is honestly about personal taste. But if you have that far reaching goal of eventually doing this at a bigger tournament, it's better to get it into your practice early. Bad habits die hard. Some of these things may seem like common sense, but they are very, very important to remember even under high loads of stress or exhaustion.

  • Swearing!
    As an easy example, TV-14 or a PG movie is usually the standard I've seen with events such as IGNProleauge or MLG tournaments. This does not mean, however, to throw them around constantly. You can in your own personal videos, however, though, it may drill that bad habit into your head and stick around later. It's better to get it down sooner rather than later.
  • Energy/mood!
    A big thing about being a caster is that you have constant energy, even if you are tired or even if something just ate your car and you're told "Hey! You're up in five minutes to cast this game!". Suck it up, and get out there, and put on your best "I don't give a F face.".
  • Insults/Favorites!
    You can say them while you cast which player your rooting for, but never make it a focus, and never bash either player. You can say if you think someone just made a bad move, or what you think they should be doing instead of what they currently are, but do it in a unbiased fashion that a commentator should.
  • Your mouth!
    This one is all round rule, but I hear it too often when I watch some casters online. If you're going to cough, sneeze, take a gulp of water, ect, do try to either mute your mic, or do it in a fashion that it doesn't distract too much from the gameplay.



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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
April 05 2013 16:39 GMT
#2
Smallest
Smaller
Small
Normal
Big
Bigger
Biggest

Does that answer your question about the font size?
Vexatious
Profile Joined April 2013
United States35 Posts
April 05 2013 16:43 GMT
#3

Does that answer your question about the font size?


Indeed it does! I was trying things such as [size=10]
Thank you. I'll get that in there.
"You ask, what if. I ask, why if?"
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
April 05 2013 16:45 GMT
#4
On April 06 2013 01:43 Vexatious wrote:
Show nested quote +

Does that answer your question about the font size?


Indeed it does! I was trying things such as [size=10]
Thank you. I'll get that in there.

I'm pretty sure you can keep adding small all the way up to the point where the text 1 pixel or something, just keep adding as many tags as you want until you get the desired effect.
Vexatious
Profile Joined April 2013
United States35 Posts
April 05 2013 17:05 GMT
#5
On April 06 2013 01:45 Cokefreak wrote:

I'm pretty sure you can keep adding small all the way up to the point where the text 1 pixel or something, just keep adding as many tags as you want until you get the desired effect.


Yep, I can. I played around with it in the previews, and I got a lot more done before I have to head out for work that I was expecting. You've helped me make that look much better. My many thanks to you.
"You ask, what if. I ask, why if?"
Vexatious
Profile Joined April 2013
United States35 Posts
April 05 2013 22:15 GMT
#6
I'm thinking perhaps this would have been betting in the SC2 general.
Are there any 'popular' personalities in the other popular esports games?
"You ask, what if. I ask, why if?"
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 22:20:15
April 05 2013 22:18 GMT
#7
On April 06 2013 07:15 Vexatious wrote:
I'm thinking perhaps this would have been betting in the SC2 general.
Are there any 'popular' personalities in the other popular esports games?


TobiWan from (joindota.com) Dota 2, to start with.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Vexatious
Profile Joined April 2013
United States35 Posts
April 06 2013 00:52 GMT
#8
Awesome, I got him added and will do further research on him.
Would you happen to know some good places to get replays? Besides here on Teamliquid of course.

I've been perusing reddit but replays are hard to find, unless I'm looking in the wrong spot. That wouldn't surprise me.
"You ask, what if. I ask, why if?"
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
April 06 2013 05:45 GMT
#9
RiotKobe is an amazing caster for League.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#10
On April 06 2013 09:52 Vexatious wrote:
Awesome, I got him added and will do further research on him.
Would you happen to know some good places to get replays? Besides here on Teamliquid of course.

I've been perusing reddit but replays are hard to find, unless I'm looking in the wrong spot. That wouldn't surprise me.


VoDs can be found on JoinDota's youtube page. Every casted game by Tobi is uploaded there.

The International 2 vods is a good tournament to start checking Tobi.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Vexatious
Profile Joined April 2013
United States35 Posts
April 06 2013 14:16 GMT
#11
On April 06 2013 19:01 Grettin wrote:

VoDs can be found on JoinDota's youtube page. Every casted game by Tobi is uploaded there.


Yeah. I already had that linked.

And as for the LoL caster RiotKobe, I can't seem to find anything but his twitter. I'll go ahead and link that but it doesn't relate really much to the point of this topic.

And back onto this topic, what other categories do I need to talk about in relation to shoutcasting?
"You ask, what if. I ask, why if?"
Vexatious
Profile Joined April 2013
United States35 Posts
April 07 2013 01:10 GMT
#12
I'm posting for a specific reason;
Is there a better place for this topic?

I feel like this may not be the best place for it.
"You ask, what if. I ask, why if?"
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