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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
January 20 2014 18:44 GMT
#2241
Don't worry! WC3 on hard is really hard with signs to craziness and unfair!
I did it once yeaaaars ago, when I actually was really good in WC3 (I still have my WCG National Finals Badge somewhere around here...) and hated it! It was: "Ok, I have to do this NOW and have around 47sec, before I have to get back ..." timings and many save/load actions! No real fun!
You will love SC2-brutal after this
There can only be one Geisterkarle
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51681 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 21:35:35
January 20 2014 21:35 GMT
#2242
We should do a SC + BW blind race some time! Anyone keen?
Problem is I think there a few 'Zero Hour' type missions in there that are shit boring.
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FluffyBinLaden
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States527 Posts
January 20 2014 21:40 GMT
#2243
On January 21 2014 06:35 GTR wrote:
We should do a SC + BW blind race some time! Anyone keen?
Problem is I think there a few 'Zero Hour' type missions in there that are shit boring.


I'd be game! Haven't played in the whole thing in years, so I'm definitely blind enough. ^^
Riddles in the Dark. Answers in the Light.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 21:41:43
January 20 2014 21:41 GMT
#2244
I'd probably be down for that, would be fun
Will be lot easier and shorter than wc3 though^^
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Growiel
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)363 Posts
January 20 2014 21:44 GMT
#2245
That could be fun, I haven't played SC and BW in ages
StarCraft II for ever.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51681 Posts
January 20 2014 21:48 GMT
#2246
Alright, how about we set a tentative time of Saturday 1st February at around 12pm CET?
Try and spread the word around, the more, the merrier, I guess.
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Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
January 20 2014 22:13 GMT
#2247
There are a few timed missions, but most of them aren't too bad.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
January 20 2014 22:15 GMT
#2248
On January 21 2014 03:30 AdamAK wrote:
After 38 hours, I concluded that the 20h after that would simply not be fun. Most people realised the same thing about 20h before I did, haha.

Doesn't help that I'm just not good at WC3 (yet). I reckon doing the race on Normal wouldn't have been fun, because it would be too easy, though.

You were actually doing much better near the end than you were at the start. If you were to try again while fully awake using what you learned, I think you'd do much better. The problem with WC3 is there's a lot of really subtle mechanics to manage like upkeep so playing on hard when you haven't played in ages is just punishing.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 22:27:59
January 20 2014 22:27 GMT
#2249
I could play along with the Broodwar campaign mod for SC2. Never owned BW

Never beat the BW mod either. Game's too hard
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
January 20 2014 22:38 GMT
#2250
The campaign mod for SC2 wouldn't really work. There's too many reasons to go into why right now, but if you've never owned it, the starcraft anthology is very cheap and can be bought digitally on battle.net
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 20 2014 22:56 GMT
#2251
Figured that. Wouldnt enter the race with that ofc.
I'll have to look into the last part though. If only I could remember my B.net password. the b.net client erased every memory of it with its damn convenience
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51681 Posts
January 21 2014 01:28 GMT
#2252
you can always just make a new battle.net account...
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
January 21 2014 03:45 GMT
#2253
About the WC3 race... Has anyone ever bothered looking up the sda records for wc3+tft?
Even though it is segmented, it is quite insane...
4.5 hours for RoC, 2h08min for TFT
This are all campaigns except rexxar (which would have been part of the race, but still... even bbf forfeited the race after 44hours, being at tft ud6, i think)
on hard....
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
January 21 2014 04:00 GMT
#2254
Hmm, I should have taken a look at that race =D. I beat TFT in like 9 hours last time i played through the campaign but ive played it over a dozen times =/. Not much of a blind race for me x.x


If I wasn't working on the first I would take part of the SC + BW race you guys are setting up!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51681 Posts
January 21 2014 07:37 GMT
#2255
Werster rants are the best.
Werster impersonations are even better.
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AdamAK
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands5 Posts
January 21 2014 08:14 GMT
#2256
On January 21 2014 07:15 Raelcun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:30 AdamAK wrote:
After 38 hours, I concluded that the 20h after that would simply not be fun. Most people realised the same thing about 20h before I did, haha.

Doesn't help that I'm just not good at WC3 (yet). I reckon doing the race on Normal wouldn't have been fun, because it would be too easy, though.

You were actually doing much better near the end than you were at the start. If you were to try again while fully awake using what you learned, I think you'd do much better. The problem with WC3 is there's a lot of really subtle mechanics to manage like upkeep so playing on hard when you haven't played in ages is just punishing.


Yeah, I reckon that if I'd play through it once or twice (and actually memorise or remap all the hotkeys + use control groups more often) I'd be able to breeze through Hard mode a lot easier. I want to look into the segmented SDA run and see how feasible single segment runs would be of each campaign. Given the length of each campaign, I think it could be a pretty cool thing to try out.
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
January 21 2014 08:45 GMT
#2257
On January 21 2014 06:35 GTR wrote:
We should do a SC + BW blind race some time! Anyone keen?
Problem is I think there a few 'Zero Hour' type missions in there that are shit boring.

Just curious, because I normally run just for me:
What is a "blind" race?
There can only be one Geisterkarle
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
January 21 2014 08:48 GMT
#2258
Blind, in this context, means you haven't played the game before, usually.

In this specific case I'm not really sure what GTR is aiming for with "blind," since my guess is much of TL has played SC(BW) but possibly not the campaign, and whether that counts as "blind" isn't really clear.
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
January 21 2014 08:57 GMT
#2259
blind is often just referring to " have no clue about speedrunning the game" So you know now shortcuts, tricks etc... as seen in the wc3 race ^^ most participants had played the wc3 campaign before
Growiel
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)363 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 10:04:35
January 21 2014 09:03 GMT
#2260
Anyone has an estimation of the time of the race ? I vaguely remember BW being extremely long, a lot more than either WoL or HoTS campaigns.
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