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Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
November 25 2012 17:51 GMT
#1041
On November 26 2012 02:49 zere wrote:
And what a season that was...


Yeah, pretty terrible. If FIA doesn't change their rules F1 is losing even more viewers. No one wants to see RedBull cheating every fucking season.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 25 2012 17:52 GMT
#1042
On November 26 2012 02:51 Slackzftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 02:49 zere wrote:
And what a season that was...


Yeah, pretty terrible. If FIA doesn't change their rules F1 is losing even more viewers. No one wants to see RedBull cheating every fucking season.

You are salty.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
November 25 2012 17:53 GMT
#1043
anticlimactic ending T.T
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
November 25 2012 18:05 GMT
#1044
sad to see Hamilton going out, that kid should really have more championships by now
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
November 25 2012 18:08 GMT
#1045
NOICE time to collect on all my bets that Vettel would win his third consecutive season.
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
November 25 2012 18:09 GMT
#1046
On November 26 2012 02:51 Slackzftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 02:49 zere wrote:
And what a season that was...


Yeah, pretty terrible. If FIA doesn't change their rules F1 is losing even more viewers. No one wants to see RedBull cheating every fucking season.


Not cheating, just having the best car without a doubt last seasons.

From a spectator point of view, I would like ALL of them to have the same car. I'm pretty sure there would be many upsets, and I'm not talking about Alonso and Vettel, but also coming from "middle-class" drivers. Most of them are not that far away from them skillwise.

We don't want cars that are >.5 faster than the rest, where the only element of randomness is weather, crashes and mechanical failures. We want that, but also drivers being the deciding factor, and this season this didn't happen IMO.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
November 25 2012 18:28 GMT
#1047
Turns out vettel did overtake on a yellow and not the slippery track flag.
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
November 25 2012 18:30 GMT
#1048
On November 26 2012 03:28 Zaros wrote:
Turns out vettel did overtake on a yellow and not the slippery track flag.


Of course he did, we all saw it. Thing is, even if he takes a 20 second post race penalty to his finish time. He still only drops one place. Thus still finishing ahead of Alonso in points and winning the championship.
EG<3
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 18:36:10
November 25 2012 18:34 GMT
#1049
On November 25 2012 21:30 Pandemona wrote:
Hammy might be back before you know it Panda

Mclaren director already said that the door would be open for him to return after next season if he has a bad one. :D

Hammy did say in an interview that he'd "return home" someday. :D

On November 26 2012 03:05 mememolly wrote:
sad to see Hamilton going out, that kid should really have more championships by now

arrrgghh hulkenberg ):

Interesting finish to the season.
also, Kimi getting lost. :'D lawl.
I cook things! :3 | Twitter: @kierpanda | www.eatgamelive.com
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
November 25 2012 18:54 GMT
#1050
On November 26 2012 03:30 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Of course he did, we all saw it. Thing is, even if he takes a 20 second post race penalty to his finish time. He still only drops one place. Thus still finishing ahead of Alonso in points and winning the championship.


He'd actually lose 2.
However it's still not confirmed whether it were yellow flags or yellow/red striped flags.
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Fatta
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany148 Posts
November 25 2012 18:59 GMT
#1051
Well, normally the first thing a driver does is complain over team radio. I mean Kobayashi should know best what happened. Did he say something about this? Did someone officially protest against the result, I mean at least Ferrari should have an incentive to protest.
Mia san Mia!
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
November 25 2012 19:00 GMT
#1052
On November 26 2012 03:54 zere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 03:30 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Of course he did, we all saw it. Thing is, even if he takes a 20 second post race penalty to his finish time. He still only drops one place. Thus still finishing ahead of Alonso in points and winning the championship.


He'd actually lose 2.
However it's still not confirmed whether it were yellow flags or yellow/red striped flags.


On sky they showed a replay after the race of the yellow light flashing and everyone there seemed convinced it was 100% yellow.
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1110 Posts
November 25 2012 19:02 GMT
#1053
Amazing race, poor result.
In the end the best car won out against the best driver. Alonso had the perfect season and out-drove his car at nearly every single race an amazing performance.

Bring on 2014 and new engines!!
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1110 Posts
November 25 2012 19:13 GMT
#1054
Oh and to clear it up, it wasn't a yellow flag, it was red/yellow to indicate oil on track, hence no penalty for vettel.
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
November 25 2012 19:17 GMT
#1055
On November 26 2012 04:00 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 03:54 zere wrote:
On November 26 2012 03:30 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Of course he did, we all saw it. Thing is, even if he takes a 20 second post race penalty to his finish time. He still only drops one place. Thus still finishing ahead of Alonso in points and winning the championship.


He'd actually lose 2.
However it's still not confirmed whether it were yellow flags or yellow/red striped flags.


On sky they showed a replay after the race of the yellow light flashing and everyone there seemed convinced it was 100% yellow.


According to http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20481809 1819 update :"There have been some suggestions that Sebastian Vettel may have passed Kamui Kobayashi when yellow lights were flashing. Ferrari technical director Pat Fry says it appears they were yellow and red slippery track flags and not yellows. Therefore, no penalty required."

Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
November 25 2012 19:21 GMT
#1056
Yeah he didn't do anything wrong, no need for any penalty. I thought it was a great race, a huge shame for both Hamilton and Hulkenberg and also Alonso. I thought Nico drove so well up to that incident, as I also thought he should be driving the McLaren next year. Good job he isn't because he cost McLaren £10-15m today as Vergne cost Marussia the same. I have no idea how the red bull suspension took that contact and did not break. Insane, but Seb did a decent job after the crash with Senna, possibly more luck because it could have been a penalty (I don't think so but it was more his fault). Grats on three title's on the trot Seb.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
November 25 2012 19:32 GMT
#1057
F1 fans forums just finished with an epic montage. Just amazing really. Extremely exciting race and end to the season.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
November 25 2012 21:44 GMT
#1058
On November 26 2012 02:51 Slackzftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 02:49 zere wrote:
And what a season that was...


Yeah, pretty terrible. If FIA doesn't change their rules F1 is losing even more viewers. No one wants to see RedBull cheating every fucking season.


What an idiot post. Red Bull was not dominant this year and had plenty of bad luck too. The season was bonkers (in a very good way).

Hulkenberg deserved this win and that penalty was bullshit, just like the first safety car was a bit BS. Great race though.
Push 2 Harder
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 22:03:26
November 25 2012 22:00 GMT
#1059
On November 26 2012 06:44 Bigtony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 02:51 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:49 zere wrote:
And what a season that was...


Yeah, pretty terrible. If FIA doesn't change their rules F1 is losing even more viewers. No one wants to see RedBull cheating every fucking season.


What an idiot post. Red Bull was not dominant this year and had plenty of bad luck too. The season was bonkers (in a very good way).

Hulkenberg deserved this win and that penalty was bullshit, just like the first safety car was a bit BS. Great race though.


First safety car was fine. Tons of debris on the track, and this carbon fibre will cut tires like a knife.

Red Bull has not been cheating this year. They were asked to change some engine map settings that were legal in themselves, but the FIA issued what they call a "clarification" - a closing of a loophole. Loopholes are a big part of F1 development - Merc's double effect drs is an example of this. If you can find a way to pass the tests you are legal according to the regulations.

edit: not saying they were cheating in other years. However complaints against them have resulted in test changes.

Just as the Ferrari 2006/7 floor. Or the Renault mass damper from 06. Or the "F-Duct" from 09. Or the double diffuser from 09.
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baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1110 Posts
November 25 2012 22:01 GMT
#1060
On November 26 2012 06:44 Bigtony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 02:51 Slackzftw wrote:
On November 26 2012 02:49 zere wrote:
And what a season that was...


Yeah, pretty terrible. If FIA doesn't change their rules F1 is losing even more viewers. No one wants to see RedBull cheating every fucking season.


What an idiot post. Red Bull was not dominant this year and had plenty of bad luck too. The season was bonkers (in a very good way).

Hulkenberg deserved this win and that penalty was bullshit, just like the first safety car was a bit BS. Great race though.


What are you talking about? He drove into Lewis and took him out of the race... there wasn't a chance of over-taking into T1 he should have waited and been smart and made a over-take into T4 with the aid of DRS, not just lunging into T1 in wet conditions.
It was the move of an inexperianced driver, Lewis had it covered and Hulkenberg just drove into him.... talking of idiot posts..
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