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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On April 23 2012 08:39 Doraemon wrote: i wonder if webber can win the championship by just finishing 4th for the rest of the season. hehe They were on about the same with Hamilton finishing 3rd every race. They said if Hamilton finished 3rd every race last season he would of won the championship by 25points! Seems alot, so im sure 4th place works the same way xD | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1115 Posts
The problem I have with this is that there was no need for him do drive so aggressivly and that it once again muddies the rules on how you can defend while in a race and dsn't make it clear to the drivers what they can and can't decide to do in a split second. Especially as no other driver whilst defending going into turn 4 had to make such an aggressive move the the edge of the track. What if Alonso or Lewis went off the track and lost control of there car's on the dusty surface and not only hit the barrier but also took out Rosberg, would he be in the clear then? He'd had caused an accident that never needed to happen. I'm all for aggressive driving, I think it makes the sport more exciting, but there is a limit and I think Rosberg went over the line, twice against two former world champions and arguably the two best drivers on the track. And given Alonso's displeasure at the result of the stuards, it will be interesting to see later on in the season how it might come to affect race results. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
If you watch people going down the main straight, you often see people cut back across when trying to overtake, that's what Hamilton could have done if he so wished. He opted not to. His own choice. He was behind when Rosberg started moving, and kept moving with Rosberg. If Hamilton had gone off the track and lost control it would have been his own fault. There was nothing which forced him t ogo off track. The track can fit 3 or more cars wide. Rosberg was on one edge of the track. That leaves the entire rest of the track for Hamilton to use. He made the choice to go off the track. If an accident had resulted, Hamilton would have been 100% responsible. The rules are clear, and the application of the rules against Hamilton were fair and correct with respect to Rosberg. Where it's iffy is with Rosberg on Alonso, where Alonso looks more like he might be slightly alongside, in which case you could argue Rosberg was crowding him off the track, which contravenes a different rule rather than the new rule related to making moves to defend your position. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1115 Posts
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Bairemuth
United States404 Posts
On April 23 2012 08:39 Doraemon wrote: i wonder if webber can win the championship by just finishing 4th for the rest of the season. hehe Webber is the definition of consistency. I don't think RBR has improved that drastically over the past 4 races. Vettel seems to be the one with the ups and downs, though with way more potential. This was definitely evident 2 years ago. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On April 25 2012 13:43 Bairemuth wrote: Webber is the definition of consistency. I don't think RBR has improved that drastically over the past 4 races. Vettel seems to be the one with the ups and downs, though with way more potential. This was definitely evident 2 years ago. i found webber has dramatically improved his starts, i think like by round 4 last year he was like -12 placings after the first lap or something terrible. he's been doing a lot better this year and maintaining his starting P | ||
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Bairemuth
United States404 Posts
On April 25 2012 13:52 Doraemon wrote: i found webber has dramatically improved his starts, i think like by round 4 last year he was like -12 placings after the first lap or something terrible. he's been doing a lot better this year and maintaining his starting P Yeah Webber has tradionally been terrible at starts. I havn't really noticed it much this season so I guess that means he has improved. I'm willing to bet that last year he lost more positions from grid to first lap than any other driver out there. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2014 Posts
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
On April 25 2012 23:03 Aristodemus wrote: There is now talk that Spa will be dropped completely from the calendar. I would be very annoyed by this if it happens. Bernie needs to remember F1s roots, fanbase and heritage. Spa, Monza, Silverstone and Monaco should be a part of every season. Whoa what? That would be a tragedy, one of the most spectacular circuits with unpredictable weather, no less, and such an important part of F1's history. It's akin to removing Daybreak from the GSL mappool and replacing it with Steppes of War because it paid you more. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On April 25 2012 23:03 Aristodemus wrote: There is now talk that Spa will be dropped completely from the calendar. I would be very annoyed by this if it happens. Bernie needs to remember F1s roots, fanbase and heritage. Spa, Monza, Silverstone and Monaco should be a part of every season. I don't think roots, fanbase or heritage should be that important. I would be fine with them dropping Monaco. What should be important is the quality of racing provided by a track. Spa provides good races, and so should be kept. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2014 Posts
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zere
Germany1287 Posts
By the way, here's a video of last year's Monza: 0:13 to 0:22 is Vettel POV, overtaking maneuver into della roggia 0:23 to 0:27 is Alonso POV out of della roggia, with great traction right up Vettel's tail 0:28 and continueing is the thing that startles me every time I watch it: Going through both Lesmos, one can see the utter dominance of the 2011-Red Bull and it's downforce. When they are out of Lesmo-2, the gap is already that significant that Alonso is out of Vettel's slipstream and can't keep up with the RB that maxed out at only 327 km/h on that day. On a power track like Monza. Insane. | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
On April 26 2012 02:16 Lonyo wrote:I would be fine with them dropping Monaco. God no! Monaco GP is a great race usually, and VERY unique. Nowhere else drivers skill matters that much. Close barriers and crazy onboards are enough for me to forgive fewer overtakings. | ||
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
No way!! Get that shit Bahrain outta here! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On another note, finally the week has started and we can look forward to Spain race! Always fun race as most teams use it to practice, hoping for stronger Mclaren improvement and to see if Red bull was just a fluke or have they finally cracked it for this season. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On April 26 2012 03:03 zere wrote: If Spa goes, I go. By the way, here's a video of last year's Monza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ombMoblIKg 0:13 to 0:22 is Vettel POV, overtaking maneuver into della roggia 0:23 to 0:27 is Alonso POV out of della roggia, with great traction right up Vettel's tail 0:28 and continueing is the thing that startles me every time I watch it: Going through both Lesmos, one can see the utter dominance of the 2011-Red Bull and it's downforce. When they are out of Lesmo-2, the gap is already that significant that Alonso is out of Vettel's slipstream and can't keep up with the RB that maxed out at only 327 km/h on that day. On a power track like Monza. Insane. Dirty air: you can't follow other cars into corners and get a good exit because the front of the cars in the dirty air tend to slide around a lot. But no question: 2011 red bull has enough downforce to go through 130R with DRS on. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Martin Whitmarsh has confirmed that personnel changes have been made in key areas of McLaren's pit-team ahead of the Spanish Grand Prix. Source Lol gj! Ruthless! Maybe no more mistakes now | ||
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elsation
Australia661 Posts
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