Heres a good tip: if you're a range hero vs a melee hero, or a range hero with no damage nuke, this is how you should play...

O = their hero
ooooo = their creeps
X = your hero
xxxxx = your creeps

Most people play like this:

____O____

ooooooooooooooo
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

____X____

You should instead abuse the fact that you're range/have nukes and stand next to the creep line, so he cant come close to get experience or gold. If you're owning him bad, you can even place yourself BEHIND his creeps and force him to go heal/switch lanes/wait for creeps to get to his tower.

phiwha

United States158 Posts

December 31 2005 21:38 GMT

#102

On January 01 2006 06:34 fki wrote:
ok phiwha the other player do web very much please tell me a hero or heroes to win him because i took silencer first and he f!"£k me ok?

Anti brood also depends on how the brood plays. There are those who focus on web/bite first and harass with a lane that is all webbed up. The counter to that is obviously to get wards. Just be careful to place wards in smart places since webs can detect wards if they are very close/on top.Then there are those who get maybe 1 lvl of web max, then go spiderling nuke + bite or stats. They either push with the spiders (mass spider army), or try to nuke you to death. The counter to the push strat is to have AOE spell heroes go up against him, and farm his little spiders (weak hp) for gold and XP. If he nukes you, get more regen items. As for an item build to counter him, play it like you're playing against a naix... if you're intel, you need disables, so guinsoo is nice, agility is damage items/maybe perma stun with bashers, and strength is blademails+damage. Hes not really a powerhouse of a heroe anyways, unless you let him farm too much. And of course, the best counter/strat to any hero match up is to just out play him with micro ... out farm/out XP him by geting last hit on creeps, killing your own creeps that are about to die, and staying in lane longer than him.

Another way is to pick a hero that has an AOE nuke where u can target the ground... death prophet, pugna (owns brood), earthshaker, etc... and even if you cant see him, you can target the web that hes hiding under and own him anyways.

fki

8 Posts

December 31 2005 21:41 GMT

#103

hi I am brother of faraj fki=my brother Faraj ,my cousin kostas and IIlias and we made fki

fki

8 Posts

December 31 2005 21:42 GMT

#104

fki

8 Posts

December 31 2005 21:54 GMT

#105

wrong . phiwha look at page 5

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

December 31 2005 22:23 GMT

#106

On January 01 2006 06:26 phiwha wrote:
The way dota works, creeps will auto attack you when you are in range when attacking the other hero, or if you are low hp (same with towers). As for killing your own creeps, its not 'wrong' or 'illegal' in any way, and its a 'must' against any decent player. You dont even get sheeped anymore if you attack a too high hp creep anyways, so you have nothing to lose. Just keep in mind, you can only kill your own creeps that are low hp (red).

oh that's why i always die like that.

fki

8 Posts

December 31 2005 22:45 GMT

#107

fki

8 Posts

December 31 2005 22:48 GMT

#108

hi guys what i must take in silencer is a good hero isnt it?

fki

8 Posts

December 31 2005 22:58 GMT

#109

And guys something very important , i always go to a net cafe to play dota i have the cd but i dont know how to download a patch and from? if anyone of you know something pleeeeease send me a reply

Manit0u

Poland17868 Posts

January 01 2006 00:02 GMT

#110

On January 01 2006 07:58 fki wrote:

And guys something very important , i always go to a net cafe to play dota i have the cd but i dont know how to download a patch and from? if anyone of you know something pleeeeease send me a reply

If you ALWAYS play DotA at net cafe then you ALWAYS have the latest patch I think...
I really don't understand you man.

{ToT}Strafe

Thailand7026 Posts

January 01 2006 00:44 GMT

#111

you shouldnt try to understand him

Manit0u

Poland17868 Posts

January 01 2006 01:20 GMT

#112

I won't try any longer. I've just realized that most likely he has never played warcraft online before

fki

8 Posts

January 01 2006 01:49 GMT

#113

i want it in my computer ok? i cannt always spend money on playing on net cafe , i dont know how to download a patch and from? if anybody knows please reply.

uidf

Seychelles370 Posts

January 01 2006 03:03 GMT

#114

nevermind i see he got banned.

thx whoever banned him!

OverTheUnder

United States2929 Posts

January 01 2006 09:03 GMT

#115

That was getting confusingT_T

{ToT}Strafe

Thailand7026 Posts

January 01 2006 09:45 GMT

#116

overtheunder wnna dota?

phiwha

United States158 Posts

January 01 2006 10:15 GMT

#117

he already is with me ^^

{ToT}Strafe

Thailand7026 Posts

January 01 2006 10:35 GMT

#118

meh your team stinks;p

uidf

Seychelles370 Posts

January 01 2006 11:49 GMT

#119

yea OverTheUnder it was really hard to follow im not sure what he was talking about really,,, like mani said he prob dosent even play war3 but with how many people from a bunch of diff countries visit here you can really be sure...

and strafe any more replays?

{ToT}Strafe

Thailand7026 Posts

January 01 2006 13:02 GMT

#120

heh forgot to save my last team game. it was really sweet we played -ar and got behind 5-25 thats normally gg, but then i went from 4-4 to 26-5 with lina inverse. Oh the coolness of afghanim