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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16128 Posts
January 28 2012 04:03 GMT
#1941
On January 28 2012 12:41 Ace wrote:
This is why you can't rely on mainly 3 pointers to win the game. That Knicks team played hard but it's just such a sorry roster.

Bill Walker is also fucking terrible defensively.


Give the guy a break, Lebron makes everyone look terrible defensively with the notable exception of Paul Pierce.

Also, LOL again Orlando. That is not the way you are going to keep Dwight Howard.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 04:26:58
January 28 2012 04:05 GMT
#1942
Austin Daye went 10-49* to start the season...He can ball, but like slyboogie said, it seems something is off with his shot and hopefully he can get a rhythm back.

*forgot to add a game where he went 5-11
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 28 2012 04:08 GMT
#1943
On January 28 2012 13:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 12:41 Ace wrote:
This is why you can't rely on mainly 3 pointers to win the game. That Knicks team played hard but it's just such a sorry roster.

Bill Walker is also fucking terrible defensively.


Give the guy a break, Lebron makes everyone look terrible defensively with the notable exception of Paul Pierce.

Also, LOL again Orlando. That is not the way you are going to keep Dwight Howard.


There's "you can't defend him" and there's "this guy is just bad". Blown rotations, being lazy, constant ball watching, playing UP on a guy when the ball is on the other side of the court - those are the signs of a bad defender.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 28 2012 04:43 GMT
#1944
On January 28 2012 12:41 Ace wrote:
This is why you can't rely on mainly 3 pointers to win the game. That Knicks team played hard but it's just such a sorry roster.

Bill Walker is also fucking terrible defensively.


I actually think a 3 point centric team could end with a top seed in the NBA. The problem with the strategy is not that it doesn't win games, it is that it is a high variance strategy. Thus, you can do it throughout a regular season and end with a good record, but it will backfire in individual games (or perhaps a series in the playoffs). That's one of the reasons you see upsets (and then the lower seed losing) in the NCAA tournament is because a team can get really hot from 3 and just rain hell, and then go cold the next day.
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
January 28 2012 14:46 GMT
#1945
On January 28 2012 13:05 Holcan wrote:
Austin Daye went 10-49* to start the season...He can ball, but like slyboogie said, it seems something is off with his shot and hopefully he can get a rhythm back.

*forgot to add a game where he went 5-11


he's also a mental midget and is horrible defensively. that's why daye isn't playing as much as we'd think.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 28 2012 14:57 GMT
#1946
On January 28 2012 13:43 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 12:41 Ace wrote:
This is why you can't rely on mainly 3 pointers to win the game. That Knicks team played hard but it's just such a sorry roster.

Bill Walker is also fucking terrible defensively.


I actually think a 3 point centric team could end with a top seed in the NBA. The problem with the strategy is not that it doesn't win games, it is that it is a high variance strategy. Thus, you can do it throughout a regular season and end with a good record, but it will backfire in individual games (or perhaps a series in the playoffs). That's one of the reasons you see upsets (and then the lower seed losing) in the NCAA tournament is because a team can get really hot from 3 and just rain hell, and then go cold the next day.


Well, also because in the NCAA teams are vastly inferior defensively for a multitude of reasons compared to NBA teams. Setting up 3 point shots in college is cakewalk - basic ball movement will catch a lot of players out of position.

In the NBA having a 3 point centric offense takes a lot to pull off against the typical defense that is rotating: You've got to actually set up the shot as no one not named Ray Allen can hit off the dribble 3 pointers consistently, simple screens on the perimeter aren't going to result in lots of makes, and most importantly: Scoring in the paint is a much easier strategy with a much bigger payoff in terms of setting up other shots down the road.

The problem with the Knicks launching 40+ 3 pointers is that they only hit 18 of them. efg% is pretty useless here: They missed 25 shots of which are among the most difficult in the game. Hit what would be considered a good % of them and still managed only 89 points. All because they couldn't score inside to make the outside guys' lives easier. I kind of feel bad for D'Antoni because this is not the team he came here to coach, it isn't the team he wanted, and he didn't even want to give up Gallo and Felton for Melo.

I really hate this organization. No wonder Donnie Walsh got the fuck out of there.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
January 28 2012 15:23 GMT
#1947
orlando, among nba teams, runs the typical 3-point shooting offense the most. it's usually dwight + shooters. sometimes it works really well, sometimes it goes horribly. it's not a good way to build a championship team unless you have really consistent shooters, a rarity in the nba nowadays. the magic certainly don't.

also, dolan really chose a really bad time to stick his fingers into the bball side of the franchise (the melo trade) after he had been hands-off for so long. bleh. i'm also glad donnie got out of there, it pained me to see such a great guy for the pacers stuck there... and besides, i'm not going to shed any tears because the knicks are dysfunctional >_<
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
January 28 2012 21:10 GMT
#1948
On January 28 2012 23:46 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 13:05 Holcan wrote:
Austin Daye went 10-49* to start the season...He can ball, but like slyboogie said, it seems something is off with his shot and hopefully he can get a rhythm back.

*forgot to add a game where he went 5-11


he's also a mental midget and is horrible defensively. that's why daye isn't playing as much as we'd think.


Well, it's not like anyone on the current Pistons team is playing lockdown defense anyway, and when he gets playing time he produces a lot more than the other SF's on the team (i.e. Damien Wilkins last night).. I can't see how much playing him would hurt the Pistons, because they're not winning without him (I think they reached 100 points for the first time this season yesterday, and that was after OT)..
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
January 29 2012 20:38 GMT
#1949
Miami vs Chicago right now... Go Bulls!
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
January 29 2012 21:03 GMT
#1950
Bulls need Deng. If Miami decides to pull out the old "Give the ball to Lebron" strategy they will win because no one can stop him besides Deng.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
January 29 2012 22:47 GMT
#1951
D. Rose is making some ridiculous floaters/runners in this game so far. Miami should know better than to let a team stick around until the 4th quarter though, considering their track record.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
January 29 2012 22:53 GMT
#1952
Haslem still looks werid to me with an afro
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
chennis
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 23:00:49
January 29 2012 22:58 GMT
#1953
I like how they put taj gibson in for boozer, cuz boozer is awful

edit : awww noah 5th, boozer is back in lol
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 23:02:12
January 29 2012 23:01 GMT
#1954
WOW. That was the UGLIEST exchange in basketball. Ha.

EDIT: Sloppy passing, shitty finishing, bad post moves. Lordy that was ugly.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Vinski
Profile Joined November 2010
505 Posts
January 29 2012 23:05 GMT
#1955
ROSE MVP BABYBYBYBYBYBYY!!!
"Sound is in a bad marriage, instead of divorcing her and keeping half your shit, he just committed suicide"
Vinski
Profile Joined November 2010
505 Posts
January 29 2012 23:06 GMT
#1956
Wow no he missed both :/
"Sound is in a bad marriage, instead of divorcing her and keeping half your shit, he just committed suicide"
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
January 29 2012 23:06 GMT
#1957
This is a tragic meltdown by the Heat and Lebron. That's three possessions that were borderline atrocities. But Derrick Rose missing Free throws is just as bad. Shadows of Memphis amirite?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
January 29 2012 23:07 GMT
#1958
OMG, talk about anti MVP freethrows, he got to feel disgusted by that.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
January 29 2012 23:08 GMT
#1959
How much choking can occur at the end of one game lol?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 29 2012 23:08 GMT
#1960
LOL this is so good free throw shooting
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