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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 17 2012 05:42 GMT
#6241
While I agree with you jmb, you are wrong on one point: Blake would suck at defense no matter how hard he tried. Because he is too dumb to not overhelp and look in the completely wrong direction when off ball.

T________________T
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 17 2012 05:50 GMT
#6242
My comparison to to Noah was that they both can only lay-up/in and dunk. Ibaka at least has a decent jumpshot. So I'm not sure why Ibaka deserves the hate and not the one-trick pony.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 17 2012 05:59 GMT
#6243
On April 17 2012 14:42 slyboogie wrote:
While I agree with you jmb, you are wrong on one point: Blake would suck at defense no matter how hard he tried. Because he is too dumb to not overhelp and look in the completely wrong direction when off ball.

T________________T

If he was a try hard he would just be a mediocre/average defender. Right now he is a horrific defender.


On April 17 2012 14:50 Jerubaal wrote:
My comparison to to Noah was that they both can only lay-up/in and dunk. Ibaka at least has a decent jumpshot. So I'm not sure why Ibaka deserves the hate and not the one-trick pony.

Because Blake can do way more than just lay-up/in and dunk. He has a nice Tim Duncanish mid range bank shot. Also he can take you off the dribble as his ball handling is way above average for a big man.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 17 2012 06:21 GMT
#6244
You can still try hard but be terrible defensively. He needs to improve his BB IQ and learn defensive schemes.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
April 17 2012 08:18 GMT
#6245
fuck yea! The Suns have caught the Rockets for the 8th seed.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 17 2012 12:31 GMT
#6246
On April 17 2012 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
fuck yea! The Suns have caught the Rockets for the 8th seed.


=[...fanastic time to lose 4 in a row...sigh...

also blake is a more athletic noah? say what? they are almost exact opposites....
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 17 2012 14:41 GMT
#6247
On April 17 2012 14:59 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 14:42 slyboogie wrote:
While I agree with you jmb, you are wrong on one point: Blake would suck at defense no matter how hard he tried. Because he is too dumb to not overhelp and look in the completely wrong direction when off ball.

T________________T

If he was a try hard he would just be a mediocre/average defender. Right now he is a horrific defender.


Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 14:50 Jerubaal wrote:
My comparison to to Noah was that they both can only lay-up/in and dunk. Ibaka at least has a decent jumpshot. So I'm not sure why Ibaka deserves the hate and not the one-trick pony.

Because Blake can do way more than just lay-up/in and dunk. He has a nice Tim Duncanish mid range bank shot. Also he can take you off the dribble as his ball handling is way above average for a big man.



No he doesn't. His percentages on his midrange shots are abysmal.
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VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
April 17 2012 16:10 GMT
#6248
Am I the only one rooting for the Jazz to take the 8th spot in the Western Conference? Might be biased due to Hayward playing SC2, but still - they have had a lot of cool games this season (and I think they might take a game or two from OKC/Spurs)
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
April 17 2012 16:21 GMT
#6249
On April 18 2012 01:10 VENDIZ wrote:
Am I the only one rooting for the Jazz to take the 8th spot in the Western Conference? Might be biased due to Hayward playing SC2, but still - they have had a lot of cool games this season (and I think they might take a game or two from OKC/Spurs)

I actually want them to take the spot too, altho I didnt watch a whole lot of their games.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
April 17 2012 17:36 GMT
#6250
I'm not very sure what a "tryhard" is, but it doesn't sound like he is one. He's definitely nothing like Noah.

Blake is a gifted offensive player in that he has ridiculous athleticism and strength that he uses to attack the basket and finish where many other players wouldn't be able to. It's not just power, often there is an impressive amount of body control that goes into the crazy shots he makes. As someone else said, his ball-handling is quite good for a PF, and his passing ability is also above average for a big. He came into the league with a decent mid-range jumper, but he seems to have lost it this season. His shooting mechanics are solid, so I personally believe that it's something he can work on, bring back, and even improve upon. Right now, I see him as Amare with better passing/ball-handling, but worse shooting ability.

Blake definitely needs to work a lot on his defensive awareness and effort. Part of me suspects that he may just be expending too much energy on offense at the expense of his defense, because there are many times where he looks tired on defense and then suddenly busts out with an aggressive drive or putback on the other end. One positive is that he has been blocking more shots this season, which is a step in the right direction because there's no reason he can't be a great shotblocker with his athleticism.
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 18:05:33
April 17 2012 18:04 GMT
#6251
On April 18 2012 02:36 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
because there's no reason he can't be a great shotblocker with his athleticism.


he won't be a great shotblocker because he has short arms. tyler hansbrough has the same wingspan as blake griffin. his short arms will limit how good of a defender he will end up, but with much effort and learning he can be a good defender and a good shotblocker, as he does have good footspeed/lateral speed at the 4 position.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 17 2012 18:06 GMT
#6252
a try hard is exactly what it sounds like. And yeah Blakes no try hard. He doesnt have an all round skill set sure, but tbh alot of his offense maybe hasnt developed as quick as it could because with CP3 around he hasnt really needed to, its not really sink or swim.

But that having been said his athleticism alone means he can make plays that a conventional try hard should basically be incapable of making.

As for defense. I just think he doesnt have the basketball IQ to be honest. Better coach wouldnt hurt either.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
April 17 2012 18:13 GMT
#6253
The whole try-hard discussion started with a Clipper fan calling Ibaka a try-hard anyway, which is why Blake was mentionned afterward (to contradict the said Clipper fan).
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
April 17 2012 18:13 GMT
#6254
What would Blake do after his blow out his knee in 3 years? If he doesn't change his game by then he's ganna get fried.
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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
April 17 2012 19:30 GMT
#6255
especially if he keeps chirping like he is a top pf in the league, its like shit son, you do a quarter of what garnett, lma, love, bosh, millsap, smith, gasol, z-bo, bargnani, scola, etc etc.


holy shit, blake isn't even a top 10 pf. man, and someone tried telling me that garnett wasn't better than blake, good ole fanboys.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 17 2012 19:50 GMT
#6256
On April 17 2012 13:25 slyboogie wrote:
Nothing sucks more than getting beat by a try-hard.

I think you mean nothing sucks more than not having your own try hard. Every championship team has them.
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ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
April 17 2012 20:39 GMT
#6257
Should the magic shut down Dwight Howard for the playoffs and save him from possible further injury?
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 17 2012 21:12 GMT
#6258
On April 18 2012 04:30 Holcan wrote:
especially if he keeps chirping like he is a top pf in the league, its like shit son, you do a quarter of what garnett, lma, love, bosh, millsap, smith, gasol, z-bo, bargnani, scola, etc etc.


holy shit, blake isn't even a top 10 pf. man, and someone tried telling me that garnett wasn't better than blake, good ole fanboys.


What the fuck?!? It's fine to not like Blake. And he's full of shortcomings. But you must be kidding me. But you think Bargnani, Millsap, Josh Smith and Garnett are not just better but unquestionably better? What numbers are you using? What sport are you watching?

What paint are you huffing?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 17 2012 21:20 GMT
#6259
On April 18 2012 04:50 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 13:25 slyboogie wrote:
Nothing sucks more than getting beat by a try-hard.

I think you mean nothing sucks more than not having your own try hard. Every championship team has them.


God, what happened to Reggie Evans :c
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 17 2012 21:33 GMT
#6260
On April 18 2012 04:30 Holcan wrote:
especially if he keeps chirping like he is a top pf in the league, its like shit son, you do a quarter of what garnett, lma, love, bosh, millsap, smith, gasol, z-bo, bargnani, scola, etc etc.


holy shit, blake isn't even a top 10 pf. man, and someone tried telling me that garnett wasn't better than blake, good ole fanboys.


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