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Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
September 08 2011 17:15 GMT
#41
2d fighting games, hands down. Especially those from the NEO-GEO system (played on MAME or Nebula emulators).

In no particular order:
- Last Blade 2
- King of Fighters 98
- any Street Fighter

these games are 100% skill based, easy to pick up, awesome to watch, the whole package.

Have fun! Or you can go train MMA and break your best friend's nose ^_^
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 17:30:40
September 08 2011 17:30 GMT
#42
On September 09 2011 02:09 Scio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 22:52 ain wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:45 Scio wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:08 ain wrote:
On September 08 2011 20:29 Tchado wrote:
I would recommend Dawn of War 2 : Retribution , it has some minor online tournaments , you can still find alot of players to play with on steam , 1v1 is great , 2v2 is tons of fun , and its real time strategy , not free though.


Horrible game, horrible community full of fanboys and tryhards (if there still is anyone around at all). Dont waste your time/money on this.
Regarding the genre its closer to a squad based game of tag than an RTS.


How cancel "squad based" and "RTS" each other out at all? Its just both.

If you'd ready carefully you'd notice that that is not my point at all.


If by "your point" you mean bashing DoW then yea i noticed that but it still doesnt mean its more of a squad based game than an RTS but hey i dont really want to discuss that stuff since its pretty meaningless anyways so i guess next time i will just add a smiley at the end of my comment so it doesnt come over as an insult or something

I'm not insulted by any means. You just seem to have trouble understanding the meaning of written words.
Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
September 08 2011 17:55 GMT
#43
On September 09 2011 02:30 ain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:09 Scio wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:52 ain wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:45 Scio wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:08 ain wrote:
On September 08 2011 20:29 Tchado wrote:
I would recommend Dawn of War 2 : Retribution , it has some minor online tournaments , you can still find alot of players to play with on steam , 1v1 is great , 2v2 is tons of fun , and its real time strategy , not free though.


Horrible game, horrible community full of fanboys and tryhards (if there still is anyone around at all). Dont waste your time/money on this.
Regarding the genre its closer to a squad based game of tag than an RTS.


How cancel "squad based" and "RTS" each other out at all? Its just both.

If you'd ready carefully you'd notice that that is not my point at all.


If by "your point" you mean bashing DoW then yea i noticed that but it still doesnt mean its more of a squad based game than an RTS but hey i dont really want to discuss that stuff since its pretty meaningless anyways so i guess next time i will just add a smiley at the end of my comment so it doesnt come over as an insult or something

I'm not insulted by any means. You just seem to have trouble understanding the meaning of written words.


I never said i thought you might be insulted. So i dont really get where my reading skills lack. But since you seem to be so much smarter maybe you can enlight me
"Did you know that in the original batman movie they casted nestea as joker but when batman threw him into the acid he was fine so they had to recast it with Jack Nicholson......it's a true fact" -Artosis
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
September 08 2011 18:53 GMT
#44
I second AoE2. It is an amazing game.

I don't know much about it's community though. I will have to check that out.
T3tra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
September 08 2011 18:57 GMT
#45
On September 06 2011 23:41 deathly rat wrote:
What kind of game?

Team Fortress 2 is now free to play

It's free to play but as far as 1v1 goes, the closest you can get to that is ammomod. The team competition can be fun, but the scene is pretty small and has been for a long time.

imo just go play Quake Live. It fits all the criteria you listed above.
I need this place like I need a shotgun blast to the face.
guoguo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States121 Posts
September 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#46
On September 08 2011 22:07 Ruscour wrote:
Competitive Pokemon, takes a lot of study and mental play but very rewarding strategy game.

smogon.com

This. Competitive pokemon is challenging and rewarding in every aspect, from assembling the perfect team to fit your playstyle to risky decisions paying off in battle. And the community is great. There are tutors to get you started, regularly run tournaments, as well as a ranked ladder with matchmaking.
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
September 08 2011 19:15 GMT
#47
On September 09 2011 02:09 Scio wrote:
[...]next time i will just add a smiley at the end of my comment so it doesnt come over as an insult[...]

On September 09 2011 02:55 Scio wrote:
I never said i thought you might be insulted. So i dont really get where my reading skills lack. But since you seem to be so much smarter maybe you can enlight me

At this point I'm fairly sure you're trolling.

In case you are not let's take a look at the sentence.

"It's closer to a squad based game of tag than an RTS."

The 'game of tag' is the important part. The 'squad based' is just an attribute. Similar to how the important part of a sentence is generally a noun and adjectives are used to describe that noun. Therefore it is safe to assume that in most cases the adjective is less important than the noun.

Additionally you'll notice that not only did I make my point clear by properly structuring my sentence, but I also made it foolproof by comparing a 'game of tag' to 'RTS'. You'll notice that 'game of tag' and 'Real-Time-Strategy game' are both nouns. You'll also notice that 'squad based' is not a noun. Therefore it is safe to assume that squad based is not necessarily relevant to the comparison.

Both these factors contribute to the clear statement of this sentence and nobody in their right mind would be led to believe I was comparing 'squad based' to 'RTS'.

Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 08 2011 19:21 GMT
#48
Magic the Gathering. Not the computer game/video game, but the actual game.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 08 2011 19:30 GMT
#49
On September 06 2011 23:41 deathly rat wrote:
What kind of game?

Team Fortress 2 is now free to play

Yeah but its a lot more fun as a team game. 1v1 TF2 is pretty limiting.
Jaedong.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 08 2011 19:32 GMT
#50
On September 09 2011 04:21 Cixah wrote:
Magic the Gathering. Not the computer game/video game, but the actual game.

Very expensive though .
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
September 08 2011 20:07 GMT
#51
QL is great, but it's not as rewarding as SC2 in terms of becoming better. SC2 tricks you into thinking you're good, cause everyone can get masters, but actually you're still bad. in QL it will always be obvious that you're a noob. so you really have to enjoy the game for a few years before you start being competitive .. but it's a great game nevertheless. if you don't mind being a noob, play it.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
September 08 2011 20:12 GMT
#52
Street Fighter Three Third Strike (just released a remix online edition for XBOX and PS2) Other than that you can DL emulators to play on computer. GGPO used to host online play but now all there is is supercade.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Cuiu
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany410 Posts
September 08 2011 20:14 GMT
#53
does Australia play soccer?
try fifa or pes they have a ladder and fifa a pro gaming scene
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
September 08 2011 20:20 GMT
#54
On September 09 2011 04:15 ain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:09 Scio wrote:
[...]next time i will just add a smiley at the end of my comment so it doesnt come over as an insult[...]

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 02:55 Scio wrote:
I never said i thought you might be insulted. So i dont really get where my reading skills lack. But since you seem to be so much smarter maybe you can enlight me

At this point I'm fairly sure you're trolling.

In case you are not let's take a look at the sentence.

"It's closer to a squad based game of tag than an RTS."

The 'game of tag' is the important part. The 'squad based' is just an attribute. Similar to how the important part of a sentence is generally a noun and adjectives are used to describe that noun. Therefore it is safe to assume that in most cases the adjective is less important than the noun.

Additionally you'll notice that not only did I make my point clear by properly structuring my sentence, but I also made it foolproof by comparing a 'game of tag' to 'RTS'. You'll notice that 'game of tag' and 'Real-Time-Strategy game' are both nouns. You'll also notice that 'squad based' is not a noun. Therefore it is safe to assume that squad based is not necessarily relevant to the comparison.

Both these factors contribute to the clear statement of this sentence and nobody in their right mind would be led to believe I was comparing 'squad based' to 'RTS'.



Did I miss the part in the OP where he was specifically looking for an old-school RTS? Grow up. You can bicker like a child over the definition of RTS, or just accept the fact that it's an offshoot of the old-school RTS genre that Relic started with Company of Heroes.

I wouldn't recommend DoW2 to anyone that's truly after a competitive game, for a few simple reasons

1) the current playerbase is really small (~4000 players online at peak time, and they're spread between the RTS part, and Last Stand)

2) there are lots of random effects in the game that can swing the outcome of fights one way or the other (random special melee attacks that send units flying, sync-kills that lock your unit up in combat for a time, etc.).

3) it's just plain imbalanced in a lot of different counter-related ways e.g. some armies have Infiltration long before other armies can reasonably counter it, thus fall behind very quickly with little hope of catching back up, units like Wraithguard are absolute killing machines unless you get something into melee with them, which some armies are terrible at, etc.

But, it still has its merits. If you're looking for team-based RTS matches (i.e. non-competitive), which SC2 is horrible at, you'll probably have a lot more fun with DoW2:Retribution. The number of different choices along the simplicity, elegance and power of teamwork make it much more enjoyable than smashing your head against the brickwall that is SC2 2v2, 3v3 or 4v4.
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 20:31:03
September 08 2011 20:28 GMT
#55
On September 09 2011 05:20 Bibdy wrote:
Did I miss the part in the OP where he was specifically looking for an old-school RTS? Grow up. You can bicker like a child over the definition of RTS, or just accept the fact that it's an offshoot of the old-school RTS genre that Relic started with Company of Heroes.
[...]

I'm not arguing whether DoW2 is an RTS or not (it obviously is). I was just comparing it and saying I dont like it. I don't see what's wrong with that.
DarkEnergy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 20:33:14
September 08 2011 20:29 GMT
#56
I strongly recommend company of heroes.
You should pay attention to the units and voice actors in the game its just amazing.
Have jet to see another game that even comes close to this one in that department.

"If a mouse farts in this god damned minefield, I want his ass blown sky high!"
-American Engineers

"Some people think we are compensating for something"
- King Tiger

haha good times gold i say GOLD.
Thats right stimmed marines can outrun aeroplanes.Tasteless
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 20:38:47
September 08 2011 20:30 GMT
#57
I would have to say DOW2. Reason being is that from my brush playing DOW. The community is awesome. I had a few of the top players give me some tips on my play.

I guess it depends on where you see the community. the gamereplays community for DOW2 is awesome. There are a few whiners and bmer's but like in sc2, the respective amount of those people to good people is heavly in favour of the good people. There are weekly tournaments afaik though They are starting to slow down as of late.

The game itself is a mix of rts and squad based. Its far more tatical than sc2. You have to carefully plan out what you want to secure and when. What units will do well in certain terrain. Where to go for cover and such. in sc2 the skill is more macro based and more about having the right unit comp. DOW2 is more about getting the right upgrades for your troops and putting them in the right place to take points and win the match by basically choking out your enemy.

Auctally on the same page COH is pretty good too. Same type of thing and again a amazing community. I auctally pefer coh to dow2 just because coh is a little more tatical and requires a little more skill. Auctally HuK was a top COH player before he started playing sc2.

There is a competitve scene in COH. With a few tournaments going on here and there. Many of the tops players have moved on but a number still remain. A lot of replays are getting released too and the community still wants the game to flourish

Also Warcraft 3 is a big one. HUGE scene compared to my other suggestions. A lot of history and still a good sized scene. Nothing like it was. I tend to think of it as what bw was outside of Korea. Same size, and a decent league and tournaments going on. Still many pros for wc3. Some do stream like Lucifer. FPVOD's are still coming out often by chinese players. youe likely to find more games via waaghtv then by stream. Though blizzard has stopped supporting the game. Many orgs like WCG still support the game.

TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1969 Posts
September 09 2011 13:26 GMT
#58
Armies of Exigo is a great game too
did you try sc:bw or did you only play sc2?
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NerO
Profile Joined February 2003
United States2071 Posts
September 09 2011 13:43 GMT
#59
basketball
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
September 09 2011 13:52 GMT
#60
On September 06 2011 22:48 humbre wrote:
QL, you could also play blood line champions but its more about team vs team than 1v1


yea, but you can play 2v2 ladder and there are tournaments, it's pretty fun.
LML
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