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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1120 Posts
On December 03 2014 06:32 Sn0_Man wrote: well if you add usps and p2k its a LOT higher than the glock lol You can`t measure coolness in numbers, ct fanboy  That`s so much better than talking about haxx0rs | ||
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farvacola
United States18855 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
the reason I ask being that the CT-default pistol kills were just wayyyy higher than the T ones. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On December 03 2014 05:54 Miragee wrote: Oh ok, that's what people made up. Understood. Made up about what lol. Are you just trying to defend something without even knowing about it? So you are saying all the pros could only use one cheat and that's it? I don't even get your statement. Who cares what cheat/hack it was or what people made up, focus on what is in front of your eyes. | ||
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Miragee
8646 Posts
On December 03 2014 07:05 MassHysteria wrote: Made up about what lol. Are you just trying to defend something without even knowing about it? So you are saying all the pros could only use one cheat and that's it? I don't even get your statement. Who cares what cheat/hack it was or what people made up, focus on what is in front of your eyes. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that people needed something else to trash on about because supexos hack couldn't be it. In front of my eyes is something fishy but not something I would ban for on overwatch. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2029 Posts
On December 03 2014 06:55 RagequitBM wrote: Okay in slowmo the flusha thing looks even less suspicious. It's a random bullet that flies out because hes mid run that hits the other guy in the head. 100% luck in my eyes. Not for a second does his crosshair leave the jumping guy. Are people just trolling or are they completely unable to understand the crosshair lag thingy that's evident in almost any bloody demo ever recorded in CS:GO? If you want to pretend the actual aim is where the crosshair shows, you can ban every pro for having homing bullet spray that lands on enemies way before their crosshair gets there. You can clearly see it even on the very clip when Flusha finishes the closer enemy while still aiming nowhere near the guy. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
Edit: I just always attributed kills when the crosshair wasn't on someone as random bullet spread | ||
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DPK
Canada487 Posts
On December 03 2014 06:51 Miragee wrote: Witchhunts are never a good thing. Yes we can't fully rely on VAC. No, that doesn't mean everyone is suddenly entitled to confirm cheat on pros. No one said that everyone is entitled to confirm cheat on pros, not sure where you get that idea. But everyone is entitled to search for evidences and speak their mind, even if they are completely wrong. If we can't rely on VAC and witchhunts are never a good thing, what would you propose to do then? Other than having very specific and knowledgeable people analyzing demos like it should be (aka a witchhunt with a much much smaller proportion), there's not much we can do aside from sitting back and watch while nothing happen and pros who may use hacks will keep hacking without any repercussion. That's a lot worst than witchhunting if you ask me. | ||
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Miragee
8646 Posts
On December 03 2014 08:11 DPK wrote: No one said that everyone is entitled to confirm cheat on pros, not sure where you get that idea. But everyone is entitled to search for evidences and speak their mind, even if they are completely wrong. If we can't rely on VAC and witchhunts are never a good thing, what would you propose to do then? Other than having very specific and knowledgeable people analyzing demos like it should be (aka a witchhunt with a much much smaller proportion), there's not much we can do aside from sitting back and watch while nothing happen and pros who may use hacks will keep hacking without any repercussion. That's a lot worst than witchhunting if you ask me. I marked the important part. That's how it should be done. Witchhunt is something very different. It's not the same just smaller. Witchhunts back in the day relied on the manipulation and instigation of the normal folk against said witches. It was to bond them to the church by using fear and creating an enemy. In the end the folk ran all over the place catching "witches". That's exactly what happens here (the last part) and it's never helpful. Sure people can speak their own minds but sometimes it's better to keep a little more quiet than to make everything public. A better way would be to let officials rule that out. If you have fishy videos, send them to the officials. And to your first part, how I got the idea that everyone feels entitled to confirm cheats on pros: Look at hltv, youtube or even here. The least agressive thing is something like "look at this, he is a cheater without a doubt". How is that speaking your opinion if you state it as a fact? But at least that isn't giving out death threats etc. what people have been doing over the last weeks towards certain pros. That's not healthy. And I guarantee that this will happen every time a witchhunt starts because people spurr each other on to the point of complete idiocy. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
Your dreamhack champion talking about this same clip for the first 5 minutes. He doesn't even talk about the part I mentioned when right before the whole encounter his crosshair starts going/locking onto the guy coming from boiler when he is aiming in the middle of the boxes trying to figure out what side the guy at close range is going to peek him from because it isn't that obvious. | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
Also regarding the conspiracy theory about him bringing in haxxorz in mouse or keyboard: sure its possible. But this was known before DH event, and the computers they played on where totally clean and the running scans would easily detect any form of new software/malware. Vac is shit, but its luckily not the only tool up Valves sleeve. KQLY and sf was not busted by VAC, but they sure as hell got banned. | ||
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zzdd
United States484 Posts
On December 03 2014 09:09 kyllinghest wrote: But this was known before DH event, and the computers they played on where totally clean and the running scans would easily detect any form of new software/malware. A virus scanner does not detect cheats. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On December 03 2014 09:09 kyllinghest wrote: The funny thing about the Flusha clip a few posts ago is that it has no synergy with all the other "Flushacheats" clips. So wouldn't something counter-intuitive give it more credence in this case? Isn't not following the synergy of everyone and bandwagon-ing what people like Miragee have been advocating ? (albeit their cause has less supporting evidence) Also regarding the conspiracy theory about him bringing in haxxorz in mouse or keyboard: sure its possible. But this was known before DH event, and the computers they played on where totally clean and the running scans would easily detect any form of new software/malware. Vac is shit, but its luckily not the only tool up Valves sleeve. KQLY and sf was not busted by VAC, but they sure as hell got banned. So you are saying there is no way he could have cheated? not sure. (I haven't actually looked at the clips or anything I really am just wondering what you think). | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
Ive played CS for years and i would not be prepared to say X or Y is cheating with full proof. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On December 03 2014 10:25 RagequitBM wrote: Seriously though, what do you do when the other team has 3 awps on Dust 2. Go A long, get awped, Go mid get awped, go B get awped. Smoke off, get awped through smoke. My aim isn't good enough with rifles to just 1 click them, and it seems like no matter how close to them I am, they'll just kill me anyways. Does anyone have a good video tutorial or something handy 3 awps? Hmmm, you need to smoke them and flash them off so you can cover distance. Even doing a 5 man explode out of b tunnels with smokes and flashes will overcome him. Or you can do what I do and not queue dust2 ever | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
ROFL and now that Blue song xd | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On December 03 2014 08:38 MassHysteria wrote: http://vimeo.com/112903459 Your dreamhack champion talking about this same clip for the first 5 minutes. He doesn't even talk about the part I mentioned when right before the whole encounter his crosshair starts going/locking onto the guy coming from boiler when he is aiming in the middle of the boxes trying to figure out what side the guy at close range is going to peek him from because it isn't that obvious. to be honest, anybody on ldlc shouldnt have a good opinion of anybody on fnatic after that overpass BS anyway hmm uploaded before DH playoffs | ||
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